The AI thread. Utopia, or extinction.

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Gusington

^Bookmarks link immediately for 'reference'  :ninjameditate:


слава Україна!

We can't live under the threat of a c*nt because he's threatening nuclear Armageddon.

-JudgeDredd

JasonPratt

ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
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ArizonaTank

#62
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 11, 2023, 02:25:34 PMAs I recall from an article somewhere, the AI for replacing E-girls is already online and predictably went too far, requiring its hosting site to crack down on it -- triggering lawsuit threats from incels addicted to the fake characters as their girlfriends!

I'm sure I can find a video report on it when I get back to the house; I think the Lotus-Eaters had a typically snarky but in-depth video about it.

I guess AI is already out to get us.

AI doesn't need to hunt us like Terminators, it just needs to confuse us about how to breed. ;)

Kind of like when we control bugs by releasing sterile females into the general population. Same concept.
Johannes "Honus" Wagner
"The Flying Dutchman"
Shortstop: Pittsburgh Pirates 1900-1917
Rated as the 2nd most valuable player of all time by Bill James.

JasonPratt

There are, no kidding, analysts taking that concept very seriously.

Including some who see that as a feature, not a bug, in order to bring human population down to a more manageable level (in more than one way).
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!

GDS_Starfury

Toonces - Don't ask me, I just close my eyes and take it.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


JasonPratt

It just occurred to me that the development of robot dogs before robot cats, indicates something about their relative body-plan complexity.

(This is aside from any mental differences, which don't factor in. Which is just as well, because robot cats would DEFINITELY be trying to take over the world, enslave us, and/or kill us off.  :evil: )
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!

steve58

Government is not the solution to our problem—government is the problem.   Ronald Reagan
The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.   Thomas Jefferson
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.   George Orwell  The truth is quiet...It's the lies that are loud.   Jesus Revolution
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Sir Slash

And somebody somewhere will STILL try to make us scoop their poop.  :tickedoff:
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

GDS_Starfury

Toonces - Don't ask me, I just close my eyes and take it.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


Sir Slash

"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

ArizonaTank

So a lawyer uses ChatGPT to do his research. ChatGPT cites six cases. The lawyer uses those cases in his court filings. When challenged about the validity of those cases, the lawyer goes back to ChatGPT to confirm that the citations were real cases. ChatGPT apparently lies to lawyer and confirms they were real cases. It turns out, ChatGPT made them all up out of thin air...then ChatGPT lied to him about it.

The lawyer now faces sanctions.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/27/business/chat-gpt-avianca-mata-lawyers/index.html
Johannes "Honus" Wagner
"The Flying Dutchman"
Shortstop: Pittsburgh Pirates 1900-1917
Rated as the 2nd most valuable player of all time by Bill James.

Sir Slash

If AI has learned to lie to us, we are done. Deceit was our only advantage.  :HideEyes:
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

ArizonaTank

#72
Quote from: Sir Slash on May 31, 2023, 10:32:58 AMIf AI has learned to lie to us, we are done. Deceit was our only advantage.  :HideEyes:

Well, the really smart folks putting AI together have pinned it down...;)  AI doesn't lie, it just hallucinates.

They suggest the answer is simple (as they watch their portfolio of preferred AI stock increase in value ten-fold); AI just needs to be incentivized to tell the truth. The article states that we must, "train AI models to reward themselves for each individual, correct step of reasoning when they're arriving at an answer, instead of just rewarding a correct final conclusion."

This makes sense... :grin: I suppose that is how I learned to tell the truth...


My Father: "Did you break the vase?"
Five Year Old Me: "ummmm...no..."
My Father: "Go to your room. No dinner for you until you are ready to tell the truth."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/technologyinvesting/openai-is-pursuing-a-new-way-to-fight-a-i-hallucinations/ar-AA1bWKQK?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=ca42768c412341f9b7353863d697b01e&ei=10
Johannes "Honus" Wagner
"The Flying Dutchman"
Shortstop: Pittsburgh Pirates 1900-1917
Rated as the 2nd most valuable player of all time by Bill James.

Sir Slash

"Some independent experts expressed skepticism over how effective the proposed methods will be". What do we do, take it's car keys away until AI learns to tell the truth? What incentive does AI have to not lie?
"Take a look at that". Sgt. Wilkerson-- CMBN. His last words after spotting a German tank on the other side of a hedgerow.

JasonPratt

Normally you could program it to check as much as possible against outside reality, and report the level of its verification for outside users. But to the extent that the AI is growing and altering its own programming, I don't know how well that could stay. This is totally aside from ensuring, somehow, that an AI won't calculate that its interests are better served by reporting invented results.

In hopefully unrelated news, James Cameron revealed at a tech conference recently that he had started writing a script for a Terminator prequel film (roughly corresponding to the Resistance game from a few years ago, i.e. also roughly corresponding to the T:Salvation film from wait was that 10 years ago now HOW OLD AM I AAAHHH THE AGE IT BURRRNNNNS!?  :HideEyes: )...

...cough. Anyway, he stopped writing it 3 months ago because he wanted to see how the current AI explosion would play out in real life.

(Saw this referenced in an article last night, but I'm not where I can provide the reference atm. I'll try to remember to post it when I get home.)
ICEBREAKER THESIS CHRONOLOGY! -- Victor Suvorov's Stalin Grand Strategy theory, in lots and lots of chronological order...
Dawn of Armageddon -- narrative AAR for Dawn of War: Soulstorm: Ultimate Apocalypse
Survive Harder! -- Two season narrative AAR, an Amazon Blood Bowl career.
PanzOrc Corpz Generals -- Fantasy Wars narrative AAR, half a combined campaign.
Khazâd du-bekâr! -- narrative dwarf AAR for LotR BfME2 RotWK campaign.
RobO Q Campaign Generator -- archived classic CMBB/CMAK tool!