Yep, looking at Enlisted.
It's a great concept. Reminds me of Heroes and Generals. However the graphics at this stage seem a little underwhelming. I am guessing that is because they are using the same textures as is on their large vehicles on infantry that need a tonne more detail? I suppose it is a different engine though.
Quote from: Destraex on May 13, 2021, 08:25:20 AM
It's a great concept. Reminds me of Heroes and Generals. However the graphics at this stage seem a little underwhelming. I am guessing that is because they are using the same textures as is on their large vehicles on infantry that need a tonne more detail? I suppose it is a different engine though.
Supposedly its the same engine. The graphics are better than ARMA is generally and worse than HLL or the BoX. And it has a pay-to-win subtext even in BETA
Yeah. That is to be expected with war thunder (gaijin) games. But it may keep the game alive beyond all other shooters. Which sometimes makes it worth the grind.
I've been playing Enlisted for the past couple of weeks and have been enjoying it so far. The grind is monumental. There is that Warthunderish pay to win meme in there.
The gameplay is fun however as well as the gunplay. I like the squads concept where you must equip each of your soldiers with gear and level them up. Enlisted is not as realistic or complicated like HLL or PS but at the same time it's not arcadey like Call of Duty or Battlefield.
I'm going to keep playing until I get to the point where the only way to progress any further is by using real money to unlock stuff. At that point I'll drop the game like a hot potato just like I did with Warthunder.
All that being said, Heroes & Generals is still my go to game for shooters. I'll never get tired of that game and I've been playing it since 2012.
Quote from: W8taminute on May 13, 2021, 09:12:24 AM
I've been playing Enlisted for the past couple of weeks and have been enjoying it so far. The grind is monumental. There is that Warthunderish pay to win meme in there.
The gameplay is fun however as well as the gunplay. I like the squads concept where you must equip each of your soldiers with gear and level them up. Enlisted is not as realistic or complicated like HLL or PS but at the same time it's not arcadey like Call of Duty or Battlefield.
I'm going to keep playing until I get to the point where the only way to progress any further is by using real money to unlock stuff. At that point I'll drop the game like a hot potato just like I did with Warthunder.
All that being said, Heroes & Generals is still my go to game for shooters. I'll never get tired of that game and I've been playing it since 2012.
There's definitely a weird coolness to Heros and Generals. I guess it was the maps that got me down after a while. Enlisted looks promising so I guess I'll see.
Quote from: Destraex on May 13, 2021, 08:54:16 AM
Yeah. That is to be expected with war thunder (gaijin) games. But it may keep the game alive beyond all other shooters. Which sometimes makes it worth the grind.
I played on my lunch hour. Must be a rough time for most people cuz my Avatar, Mengjiaomeng, was one of the top players. Very strange.
Quote from: MengJiao on May 13, 2021, 11:24:29 AM
Quote from: Destraex on May 13, 2021, 08:54:16 AM
Yeah. That is to be expected with war thunder (gaijin) games. But it may keep the game alive beyond all other shooters. Which sometimes makes it worth the grind.
I played on my lunch hour. Must be a rough time for most people cuz my Avatar, Mengjiaomeng, was one of the top players. Very strange.
Loaded it - played it for a couple days. Not great. Uninstalled.
I'm a sucker for shooters, so I'll give this a go at some point.
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on May 13, 2021, 02:31:21 PM
I'm a sucker for shooters, so I'll give this a go at some point.
I'm liking it. Its sort of a mess, but fun to play. It's good points could all be seen as bad: small maps, endless slaughter, very arcady, but in a sort of good way and even with only say 12 players on a side
the battlefield is full of troops (since each player fields 1 tank or 1 plane or 3-6 soldiers at a time and they just keep coming so about 400-500 casualties happen all told per battle).
Quote from: MengJiao on May 13, 2021, 03:28:52 PM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on May 13, 2021, 02:31:21 PM
I'm a sucker for shooters, so I'll give this a go at some point.
I'm liking it. Its sort of a mess, but fun to play. It's good points could all be seen as bad: small maps, endless slaughter, very arcady, but in a sort of good way and even with only say 12 players on a side
the battlefield is full of troops (since each player fields 1 tank or 1 plane or 3-6 soldiers at a time and they just keep coming so about 400-500 casualties happen all told per battle).
In some town in the Moscow Campaign, I fell through a kitchen floor. As you can see. Also you can see "Bat Manning" is reportedly knifing "Aorta2923" a lot. We Russians won this one, maybe because we had a few T-26s. This being a Russian game, the Russian tanks are pretty effective.
Quote from: MengJiao on May 14, 2021, 10:25:19 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on May 13, 2021, 03:28:52 PM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on May 13, 2021, 02:31:21 PM
I'm a sucker for shooters, so I'll give this a go at some point.
I'm liking it. Its sort of a mess, but fun to play. It's good points could all be seen as bad: small maps, endless slaughter, very arcady, but in a sort of good way and even with only say 12 players on a side
the battlefield is full of troops (since each player fields 1 tank or 1 plane or 3-6 soldiers at a time and they just keep coming so about 400-500 casualties happen all told per battle).
In some town in the Moscow Campaign, I fell through a kitchen floor. As you can see. Also you can see "Bat Manning" is reportedly knifing "Aorta2923" a lot. We Russians won this one, maybe because we had a few T-26s. This being a Russian game, the Russian tanks are pretty effective.
Here we all go crossing a river. This did not turn out well.
What level is that Russian Rifle Squad you have there Meng? My Russian Rifle Squad looks like a bunch of guys from the first world war, not WW2.
Played around with it for a few hours today for the first time. I think its fun. I like the use of AI squad members. It is a little bit like "Brass Brigade"...intense non-stop action until one side prevails.
Quote from: W8taminute on May 15, 2021, 02:20:46 PM
What level is that Russian Rifle Squad you have there Meng? My Russian Rifle Squad looks like a bunch of guys from the first world war, not WW2.
Oh that's not my squad. I have quite a mix. Some look like policemen, some look like the late 1930s People and Worker's Army with very silly hats. I'm hoping to reach the "Radio Squad" who have 1938 carbines rather than 1907s and are dressed for WWII. It's kind of hard for me to take a good picture of my own squad since they are all either right around me or I've dropped them off at a safe defensive spot.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on May 15, 2021, 05:47:29 PM
Played around with it for a few hours today for the first time. I think its fun. I like the use of AI squad members. It is a little bit like "Brass Brigade"...intense non-stop action until one side prevails.
I'm enjoying the weird variety of Russian gear in the Moscow Campaign: Shot guns, all kinds of Mosin-Nagants, improvised bombs etc.
Quote from: MengJiao on May 15, 2021, 07:39:12 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on May 15, 2021, 02:20:46 PM
What level is that Russian Rifle Squad you have there Meng? My Russian Rifle Squad looks like a bunch of guys from the first world war, not WW2.
Oh that's not my squad. I have quite a mix. Some look like policemen, some look like the late 1930s People and Worker's Army with very silly hats. I'm hoping to reach the "Radio Squad" who have 1938 carbines rather than 1907s and are dressed for WWII. It's kind of hard for me to take a good picture of my own squad since they are all either right around me or I've dropped them off at a safe defensive spot.
Here's my current best squad -- well-armed, showing off at the shooting range -- all with either the very long Dragoon ( an 1890s Mosin-Nagant, I think, but very steady), a SMG, or a 1938 Carbine (mostly) -- the foreground weapon is the 1938 carbine.
^Interesting. I've got one guy in my rifle squad that kind of looks like the guy lying down in the center of your screenshot. The rest are wearing those funny hats and look like policemen from the 1930s as you said.
My tank drivers however do look like an early WW2 soviet tanker. Instead of the hat with the circles near the ears though they have what looks like a white sheet fabric cutout. Anyway I'll keep trying to level my men up and see if their appearances change or a newer uniform gets unlocked.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I have a fetish for looking good when going to battle so stuff like cool headgear, uniforms, boots, etc. mean just as much to me as it does to tote high quality weapons. :D
Quote from: W8taminute on May 16, 2021, 02:17:21 PM
^Interesting. I've got one guy in my rifle squad that kind of looks like the guy lying down in the center of your screenshot. The rest are wearing those funny hats and look like policemen from the 1930s as you said.
My tank drivers however do look like an early WW2 soviet tanker. Instead of the hat with the circles near the ears though they have what looks like a white sheet fabric cutout. Anyway I'll keep trying to level my men up and see if their appearances change or a newer uniform gets unlocked.
Edit: Forgot to mention, I have a fetish for looking good when going to battle so stuff like cool headgear, uniforms, boots, etc. mean just as much to me as it does to tote high quality weapons. :D
Well, I sympathize, but you don't have that much control over things in this game. The squad in the picture is one of two that looks relatively okay. The radio squad is fine, but even within that narrow range of paperdolls there's a lot of inexplicable things like holsters for pistols that nobody has while on the other hand they do show up with some of the gear you give them like ammo pouches and backpacks. Not very consistant and there's really not all that much you can do.
Quote from: MengJiao on May 16, 2021, 03:30:51 PM
Here's the Radio Team Squad, showing off how they can stay out of trouble at the shooting range:
Well after putting yet more time into this game over the weekend I can honestly say I am still enjoying it. But only in bite sized chunks.
I get mentally exhausted after fighting one or two matches and then need to take a break. Meaning there definitely is some thought required when approaching enemy positions but it isn't anything too over the top. I think the reason why I get exhausted is I'm still trying to learn all the maps so some of my brainpower is being drained memorizing attack routes for the different maps.
Quote from: W8taminute on May 17, 2021, 01:26:00 PM
Well after putting yet more time into this game over the weekend I can honestly say I am still enjoying it. But only in bite sized chunks.
I get mentally exhausted after fighting one or two matches and then need to take a break. Meaning there definitely is some thought required when approaching enemy positions but it isn't anything too over the top. I think the reason why I get exhausted is I'm still trying to learn all the maps so some of my brainpower is being drained memorizing attack routes for the different maps.
I think three in a row is my record. One of them was the time I fell under the kitchen floor and spent most of the battle just marking the enemy.
Quote from: MengJiao on May 17, 2021, 05:59:24 PM
I think three in a row is my record. One of them was the time I fell under the kitchen floor and spent most of the battle just marking the enemy.
On the other hand, sometimes I go two in a row with tanker assaults. drive up to what you need to take and then hop out, throw bomb, use up SMG ammo and go in with the Ax...actually, I've never had to use the ax:
Note: I've not researched this game at all as I'm a lazy ass and prefer to hear from people I know.
When you speak of squads and the like, are we talking human squads or AI squads with a human commander?
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on May 18, 2021, 08:29:03 PM
Note: I've not researched this game at all as I'm a lazy ass and prefer to hear from people I know.
When you speak of squads and the like, are we talking human squads or AI squads with a human commander?
AI squads with a human commander. And when your human commander dies you can immediately switch to one of your AI squadmembers providing they are still alive.
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on May 18, 2021, 08:29:03 PM
Note: I've not researched this game at all as I'm a lazy ass and prefer to hear from people I know.
When you speak of squads and the like, are we talking human squads or AI squads with a human commander?
I researched this game after I started playing it. I have to say the hype (and I have not seen a coherent review of the game) seems to have almost nothing to do with what actually happens in the game.
Essentially it is a kind of atmospheric arcade game with some aspects of what the gamey audience thinks of as "realistic"...which seems to amount to two things basically...you have to aim some weapons with roughly what a soldier of the time would have seen AND one shot can kill you. Other things that might seem "Realistic" are that the messages on the screen can be ignored, the landscape is scaled closely to reality and weapons are limited to what was available in a particular time frame. So no Tiger tanks in 1941 (though they should be available in all three other campaigns) for example.
I'm having fun so far because the game does have exactly what I signed up ("enlisted" -- get it) to see -- varieties of the Mosin-Nagant rifle. I think I also wanted to avoid another Kursk, which is where Hell Let Loose was going. For me the charm so far is in the details of the Russian gear in 1941. It all looks pretty Russian and 1941.
I should add something about the actual play...things pretty much look "realistic" and the spawning is interesting. I spend time trying to structure my squads for battle: make sure the soldiers all have useful weapons since at any moment I might be one of them. This switching of viewpoints as things happen is fun for me and "realistic" in the sense that anyone could in theory take over running a small group of soldiers or a tank. It's also essential to the mechanic that overcomes one of the basic unrealistic things about really realistic games -- huge battles over many square kilometers with hardly any troops on each side. In Enlisted -- with all squads out and filled, you could have hundreds of troops on much smaller frontages, which is more realistic. The casualty counter for your side starts at 1000 so at least 2000 troops are available to fight (ie for both sides combined) overall in 10-15 minutes on a frontage of a few hundred meters -- a real battle.
1000 casualties in a few minutes is pretty extreme, but in game terms it works. There's always something going on that you need to do something about right away.
So what do you do?
My current strategy only works for more open battles where artillery can be important. Inside the Monastery, I just get a a squad and go try to take or defend something as needed. The basic moves there are: try to spot enemies entering an area and interdict that...then take an intermediate position and put the squad on defense...take a soldier with a bomb or two and start clearing rooms. I don't do well at that.
I'm more able to have some kind of technique in the village and town fighting: one -- fire artillery for as long as that seems to be dispersing the enemy Two -- push to interdict Three Mop up with tank assaults versus any remaining enemy concentrations...so far that works and the tank assaults are pretty fun and all the more so since they are triumphant overkill
^Good comments Meng and I feel the same way. The game is fun for what it is.
Quote from: MengJiao on May 19, 2021, 06:36:26 AM
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on May 18, 2021, 08:29:03 PM
Note: I've not researched this game at all as I'm a lazy ass and prefer to hear from people I know.
When you speak of squads and the like, are we talking human squads or AI squads with a human commander?
I researched this game after I started playing it. I have to say the hype (and I have not seen a coherent review of the game) seems to have almost nothing to do with what actually happens in the game.
Essentially it is a kind of atmospheric arcade game with some aspects of what the gamey audience thinks of as "realistic"...which seems to amount to two things basically...you have to aim some weapons with roughly what a soldier of the time would have seen AND one shot can kill you. Other things that might seem "Realistic" are that the messages on the screen can be ignored, the landscape is scaled closely to reality and weapons are limited to what was available in a particular time frame. So no Tiger tanks in 1941 (though they should be available in all three other campaigns) for example.
I'm having fun so far because the game does have exactly what I signed up ("enlisted" -- get it) to see -- varieties of the Mosin-Nagant rifle. I think I also wanted to avoid another Kursk, which is where Hell Let Loose was going. For me the charm so far is in the details of the Russian gear in 1941. It all looks pretty Russian and 1941.
I should add something about the actual play...things pretty much look "realistic" and the spawning is interesting. I spend time trying to structure my squads for battle: make sure the soldiers all have useful weapons since at any moment I might be one of them. This switching of viewpoints as things happen is fun for me and "realistic" in the sense that anyone could in theory take over running a small group of soldiers or a tank. It's also essential to the mechanic that overcomes one of the basic unrealistic things about really realistic games -- huge battles over many square kilometers with hardly any troops on each side. In Enlisted -- with all squads out and filled, you could have hundreds of troops on much smaller frontages, which is more realistic. The casualty counter for your side starts at 1000 so at least 2000 troops are available to fight (ie for both sides combined) overall in 10-15 minutes on a frontage of a few hundred meters -- a real battle.
1000 casualties in a few minutes is pretty extreme, but in game terms it works. There's always something going on that you need to do something about right away.
So what do you do?
My current strategy only works for more open battles where artillery can be important. Inside the Monastery, I just get a a squad and go try to take or defend something as needed. The basic moves there are: try to spot enemies entering an area and interdict that...then take an intermediate position and put the squad on defense...take a soldier with a bomb or two and start clearing rooms. I don't do well at that.
I'm more able to have some kind of technique in the village and town fighting: one -- fire artillery for as long as that seems to be dispersing the enemy Two -- push to interdict Three Mop up with tank assaults versus any remaining enemy concentrations...so far that works and the tank assaults are pretty fun and all the more so since they are triumphant overkill
Agree with your comments.
I would just add that as a poor twitch jockey, for me the game is incredibly fun even for someone with less than cat-like reflexes. This is mostly because of the target rich environment. Sure most of the enemy you see are bots...but they are shooting at you and so are fair game.
Long range rifle shots are still a little too easy to pull off in my book, but otherwise some basic tactics seem to pay off in this game. Crawling around, finding a good firing spot, taking a few shots and moving on seem to work well for me.
Yes I spend a lot of time crouched or prone and taking long range shots. It's only when I bring out my assault squad that have two members kitted with SMGs do I attempt to storm objectives directly. I definitely get more kills from long range sniping however than by storming points.
Gave this game a whirl today and I'm pleasantly surprised with it. Satisfying bolt-action battles with some armor to mix things up. Reminds me a lot of Battlefield but a bit more "realistic." I really like the AI squad system even if they get in your way sometimes. Also, I like the way squads cool down after you wipe, and it seems like you can always pick what you want and mix things up. I haven't found myself getting "denied" a tank or sniper rifle just because some other player was faster clicking on it.
Quote from: al_infierno on May 19, 2021, 07:15:37 PM
Gave this game a whirl today and I'm pleasantly surprised with it. Satisfying bolt-action battles with some armor to mix things up. Reminds me a lot of Battlefield but a bit more "realistic." I really like the AI squad system even if they get in your way sometimes. Also, I like the way squads cool down after you wipe, and it seems like you can always pick what you want and mix things up. I haven't found myself getting "denied" a tank or sniper rifle just because some other player was faster clicking on it.
Just a few minor observations: 1) There are limits to planes and tanks available at particular times (I think only one plane per side and 2 tanks, but that might be by scenario)
2) I've never had trouble getting a sniper rifle since you can have a certain number per squad for certain types of squads -- I prefer not to use them since I'm either in a tank or calling in artillery or trying to get somewhere. For defense, I put the squad on defense and then target them where I suspect the enemy will turn up...the "enemy spotted" intervention is treated by the AI as "watch out over there" and can be pretty effective. While the AI dudes are not particularly good shots, it does keep them busy and they do get some surprising hits occasionally.
3) Why just last night, I was busy on the radio calling in artillery, when the enemy overran my little house (little houses are easier to defend). I was resigned to having my radio team wiped out and sure enough, the second Gefritter in did kill my fearless leader, but the survivors pulled themselves together even as I was busy watching the kill cam and my dude with a shotgun got my killer and somebody clubbed the next one to death in the mud room before I could so much as punch the "I'll be this guy" button. After that I called in artillery fire on the little house and we held out against all other attacks by hiding under a table for the Win.
Quote from: MengJiao on May 20, 2021, 08:25:13 AM
I didn't take this picture. It's from a review that does give some good advice about hatchet use (that's not an axe, but hey its a Russian game):
Quote from: MengJiao on May 26, 2021, 08:01:06 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on May 21, 2021, 02:10:34 PM
Homeless tanker:
And I'm back from the beach and playing some Enlisted with this seriously weird MG (well, one of the fun things about Enlisted is the odd assortment of weapons):
Welcome back, man.
Quote from: Gusington on August 06, 2021, 08:42:05 AM
Welcome back, man.
Glad to be back!
And here's the all-new mortar team in training:
Any reason to play this over say hell let loose or post scriptum?
I like the fact that you are commanding a half squad...not just one guy.
Yeah. That sounds good. I might try it. Is it in the War Thunder client?
EDIT: Downloading enlisted now. In the mean time I managed to download war thunder ships again and have a few goes. Still fun but very slow. I notice the have earlier dreadnaughts now.
Quote from: MengJiao on September 10, 2021, 04:53:59 PM
Training for Tunisia. The Boys AT rifle doesn't inspire much confidence, but the long bayonets work really well!
Quote from: Destraex on September 11, 2021, 07:35:07 PM
Any reason to play this over say hell let loose or post scriptum?
It's fast-paced and relatively arcady -- not like the battlefields, but in that direction from Hell Let Loose. I like the strange assortment of weapons and the small maps full of stuff. Kind of atmospheric in a slightly cartoonish way. On the maps I've played for Tunisia
(Al Har and the Gorge...I think that's all there is though some kind of "Oasis" map is to be seen on the devblog ) things have been interesting and bloody. I was even the top player once cuz
I positioned my men for bayonet work inside a house and they did great. I backed them up with a Thompson from the stairway. Lots of blood all over. Fresh is bright red and older blood is
black so you can tell what has just happened in a house.
I played the Moscow campaign for a few months. I think the Tunisia maps are more my speed. Let's see -- you get the Grant tank and a motorcycle with a sidecar and a machine gun (mostly useless BUT it does get one engineer and a pair of guys with Thompsons to places pretty fast sometimes)
And what else? Well I did play Post Scriptum and Hell Let Loose for years and I think I prefer fast and arcady on small maps and having 3-9 people to deploy (and a strange array of weapons as well as mortars, which can be fun).
Quote from: MengJiao on September 12, 2021, 04:38:01 PM
Here's a more general view of things in Tunisia. I've stuck my head out of the tank to take this screenshot. Apparently the Axis side was almost all bots and I think the allies
had maybe 5-6 actual players.
Quote from: Destraex on September 12, 2021, 02:39:29 AM
Yeah. That sounds good. I might try it. Is it in the War Thunder client?
EDIT: Downloading enlisted now. In the mean time I managed to download war thunder ships again and have a few goes. Still fun but very slow. I notice the have earlier dreadnaughts now.
They revamped the aiming system for naval combat in the last patch and, sad to say, the new system is not good. It's very clunky, slow to respond, and makes it impossible to lead shots at long range. It's getting panned hard in the forums but, true to form, the devs are doubling down, digging in, and refusing to admit that it's anything but awesome.
Yeah I was wondering what was going on with the strange gamey green circle on the water.
Quote from: MengJiao on September 13, 2021, 04:32:30 PM
Tunisia gets rolling...Here's the A-13 on the practice range:
Quote from: MengJiao on September 16, 2021, 07:49:18 AM
Here's the assault squad in the practice field. I've swapped some of the Sten IIs for Thompsons for the lead men with the motorcycle team and added a shot gun for the last stand man. If properly unsupervised he will get by a doorway and cause some damage at least on defense. The Sten-Thompson swap is counterintuitive maybe, but I find it easier to aim the Thompson even with its lower muzzle velocity. The motorcycle riders have extra rifles for longer-range shots and with the Enfield SMLE IIIs with bayonets, the "assault squad" is great on defending buildings.
I really wanna try the new Tunisia map. Looks like the battle flow is quite different from the Moscow, D-Day, and Berlin maps.
Quote from: W8taminute on September 20, 2021, 10:30:44 AM
I really wanna try the new Tunisia map. Looks like the battle flow is quite different from the Moscow, D-Day, and Berlin maps.
There's three maps so far: Al Har (big village, pretty cool) The Gorge (odd, supposedly there will be speed boats?) and Something jabbar (like Al Har but with more walled farms and fields and hills -- haven't played it much except I recall one defense being pretty epic at one of the walled farms). I'm glad to have escaped the monastery in Moscow...very tired of that place. I've only played Moscow and Tunisia so I can't say how different the flow is. The Enfield has always been one of my favorites in all these games so I'm glad to have that with a big bayonet.
This doesn't say much for the flow, but here is a non-motorcycle squad almost in action. Motorcycles got reclassified as "Infantry vehicles" (like buses or jeeps or Kublewagons) rather than "Vehicles" (like tanks or armored cars or airplanes) so anyone who finds one can drive it. I drove a German one (captured) for a bit once even:
Had a quick go of the battle of berlin. It's going to take practise to really control the squadies. A tank like the t34 however i owned in. Hope to try the other maps and that they are larger for tanks.
Quote from: Destraex on September 23, 2021, 12:42:30 AM
Had a quick go of the battle of berlin. It's going to take practise to really control the squadies. A tank like the t34 however i owned in. Hope to try the other maps and that they are larger for tanks.
I'm in Tunisia. Knocked out an Italian armored car with a Boys AT rifle, a pleasant surprise for me at least.
Played the Al Har map the other night. I guess anyone can play Tunisia but your progress and level ups won't be saved unless you purchase the closed beta bundle which I won't do.
Like this campaign and can't wait until it's released.
Quote from: W8taminute on September 23, 2021, 08:36:38 AM
Played the Al Har map the other night. I guess anyone can play Tunisia but your progress and level ups won't be saved unless you purchase the closed beta bundle which I won't do.
Like this campaign and can't wait until it's released.
Yeah, its reasonably fun. I like it better than Moscow and I haven't seen a wide-open free-for-all "Tunisia" FPS (I guess its really more of an anything from 1939 to 1943 anywhere you might have some
Italians campaign) in a long time. I'm happy with the relatively primitive things like the Boys so far. And I'm sad we get the Indian Army light MG but as yet no Indians, Punjbais or Gurkhas. The Bren shows up looking very primitive too for that matter (well at campaign level 20 or something you get the mighty Bren). The one good thing I can say about the closed beta bundle it that it looks like the motorcycle was put together by
Darkflow rather than the War thunder crew so it looks very nice...not worth 50 bucks though.
Quote from: MengJiao on September 23, 2021, 07:51:19 AM
I'm in Tunisia. Knocked out an Italian armored car with a Boys AT rifle, a pleasant surprise for me at least.
Top fireteam. In this screenshot from the practice area, you can see the basic carbine, the Boys (on the backs), 2 different Enfields, the thirty-ought-six 1903 springfield sniper rifle, The Sten and the strange
SMG in the foreground (oh and the Thompson):
American M1?
Quote from: Destraex on September 28, 2021, 07:13:02 AM
American M1?
Eventually. I've always thought the Enfield was a good all-around rifle in all its forms. With the giant bayonet in the hands of a good infantryman it is the ultimate melee weapon in the game next to the shovel though my only encounter with the dreaded shovel came when I ran over a shoveling shovel man in his hole with a tank. The tank scooped him out and stuck his screaming face on the driver's port and eventually reported him dead via a calmly asserted in white font "Assist +45" (whatever that means), after which he vanished into the halls of history (as they occasionally say in really bad Star Trek episodes, I think, IIRC). I have to say running people over is quite magical in this game. You never know what's going to happen, but it involves a lot of complex verbal notations and some screaming.
However, lately I've been delighting in the Boys, which kills instantly with a hit to the gut at hundreds of yards, shoots fast from a 5-shot magazine and has a beautiful sight. Also, it occasionally knocks out tanks.
The Dauntless Dive Bomber is also a very good fighter in this game. The twin nose 50-cals will kill fast with a deflection shot (which is vaguely realistic in the South Pacific the Dauntless scout squadrons got the first kills from some carriers early on, much to the horror of the Wildcat fighter pilots) and will sometimes kill tank crewmen too. Bombs of course don't do as much as they used to but the 50 cals haven't been nerfed at all it seems.
I heard that the number one killer of Tiger 2s during WW2 were 50 cal shots from a Dauntless. :DD
I thought it was transmission failure? #:-)
Quote from: W8taminute on September 28, 2021, 12:11:43 PM
I heard that the number one killer of Tiger 2s during WW2 were 50 cal shots from a Dauntless. :DD
the one magic Dauntless?
Iirc the dauntless actually had a good record in real life dogfights.
Quote from: Destraex on September 28, 2021, 09:14:19 PM
Iirc the dauntless actually had a good record in real life dogfights.
It's kinda nice to see it in an arcady game. And in arcady terms its a surprising thing to fly (using the term loosely since... er... arcady flying is an odd thing in itself). I've shot down two Italian
fighters (RE2000s) with the Dauntless. I think they have shot me down in the Dauntless about twice as much so that seems reasonable sort of...
The 1000 pound bomb doesn't seem particularly effective -- two 500s might be a better fit for bombing tanks and things.
Quote from: MengJiao on September 29, 2021, 02:13:37 PM
Quote from: Destraex on September 28, 2021, 09:14:19 PM
Iirc the dauntless actually had a good record in real life dogfights.
It's kinda nice to see it in an arcady game. And in arcady terms its a surprising thing to fly (using the term loosely since... er... arcady flying is an odd thing in itself). I've shot down two Italian
fighters (RE2000s) with the Dauntless. I think they have shot me down in the Dauntless about twice as much so that seems reasonable sort of...
The 1000 pound bomb doesn't seem particularly effective -- two 500s might be a better fit for bombing tanks and things.
I sorta accidently shot down another RE2000. He was busy shooting me down when he accidently flew in front of me. A quick burst apparently was enough to either kill the pilot or make him feel like crashing (since apparently that's the thing to do in the arcady world). I landed the Dauntless and took a picture in practice mode. Looks like insigna from May 1942:
^Did you crash land? Looks like your wing is buried in the grass.
Quote from: W8taminute on September 30, 2021, 03:14:18 PM
^Did you crash land? Looks like your wing is buried in the grass.
Yes. In game terms, I don't think you are supposed to land these planes. The texture model looks like more of a Darkflow version (I don't know if the Dauntless is in War Thunder or not).
Quote from: MengJiao on October 01, 2021, 05:26:24 AM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 30, 2021, 03:14:18 PM
^Did you crash land? Looks like your wing is buried in the grass.
Yes. In game terms, I don't think you are supposed to land these planes. The texture model looks like more of a Darkflow version (I don't know if the Dauntless is in War Thunder or not).
Interesting. I'll have to check on this myself. I thought I had seen a video on YouTube by a gamer called Quadro in which he demonstrated lowering landing gear and touching down but I could be remembering wrong.
Quote from: W8taminute on October 01, 2021, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on October 01, 2021, 05:26:24 AM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 30, 2021, 03:14:18 PM
^Did you crash land? Looks like your wing is buried in the grass.
Yes. In game terms, I don't think you are supposed to land these planes. The texture model looks like more of a Darkflow version (I don't know if the Dauntless is in War Thunder or not).
Interesting. I'll have to check on this myself. I thought I had seen a video on YouTube by a gamer called Quadro in which he demonstrated lowering landing gear and touching down but I could be remembering wrong.
The planes have flaps and landing gear, but there's no particular game function associated with landing them anywhere. I guess you could land behind enemy lines but given the air battlefield has a different set of battle zones you'd most likely die due to the "Get back to the battlefield" function once you were on the ground and even if you survived as one guy against hundreds of AI bustling toward the front, you'd still be no closer to a capture zone than if you just spawned normally.
Quote from: MengJiao on October 01, 2021, 02:44:03 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on October 01, 2021, 10:59:36 AM
Quote from: MengJiao on October 01, 2021, 05:26:24 AM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 30, 2021, 03:14:18 PM
^Did you crash land? Looks like your wing is buried in the grass.
Yes. In game terms, I don't think you are supposed to land these planes. The texture model looks like more of a Darkflow version (I don't know if the Dauntless is in War Thunder or not).
Interesting. I'll have to check on this myself. I thought I had seen a video on YouTube by a gamer called Quadro in which he demonstrated lowering landing gear and touching down but I could be remembering wrong.
The planes have flaps and landing gear, but there's no particular game function associated with landing them anywhere. I guess you could land behind enemy lines but given the air battlefield has a different set of battle zones you'd most likely die due to the "Get back to the battlefield" function once you were on the ground and even if you survived as one guy against hundreds of AI bustling toward the front, you'd still be no closer to a capture zone than if you just spawned normally.
Good point. That is probably set up like that to prevent people from "paradropping" into a capture objective zone.
Quote from: W8taminute on October 01, 2021, 03:55:12 PM
Good point. That is probably set up like that to prevent people from "paradropping" into a capture objective zone.
Yep, you get the "Get back to the battle soldier" message even while you are falling out of the sky.
But here's the
Spitfire Vb. Seems to fly okay. I got it up to about 550 TAS in a dive. The Spitfire record seems to be 690 (MACH .96), but 550 seems fine. Apparently there are going to be FW 190s for me to
shoot at in Tunisia. I haven't seen one yet. Meanwhile I shoot down the occasional RE2000 in the Dauntless. I think they still get me more, but I've started saving ammo for them and that as increased my kill ratio. Also in one case I think I got a head-on kill and dodged. It's hard to say:
Quote from: MengJiao on October 07, 2021, 01:20:13 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on October 01, 2021, 03:55:12 PM
Good point. That is probably set up like that to prevent people from "paradropping" into a capture objective zone.
Yep, you get the "Get back to the battle soldier" message even while you are falling out of the sky.
I crash landed outside the inplay ground area and died of being outside the battle. But here are some German Engineers with French MAS-36 carbines:
Quote from: MengJiao on October 14, 2021, 02:35:26 PM
I crash landed outside the inplay ground area and died of being outside the battle. But here are some German Engineers with French MAS-36 carbines:
Things get rough in Normandy:
Quote from: MengJiao on October 19, 2021, 05:47:33 AM
Things get rough in Normandy:
"And Bubba said, "Major, I can't feel my legs." I told him, "Bubba, you ain't got no legs."
Looks like he has an arm for a leg!
Quote from: bobarossa on October 19, 2021, 02:22:29 PM
Looks like he has an arm for a leg!
In Brooklyn we used to call that a "nominal egg"
Some guys would give away an arm and a leg to be ambidextrous!
I am ambidextrous. It has its moments.
Quote from: MengJiao on October 19, 2021, 05:47:33 AM
Current best squad, still looking skeptical about training with rifle grenades:
I started messing with this one this weekend. Having a lot of fun with it. It helps that I'm actually decent at it, that's a nice change of pace.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on December 12, 2021, 12:46:52 PM
I started messing with this one this weekend. Having a lot of fun with it. It helps that I'm actually decent at it, that's a nice change of pace.
After many months, I'm starting back into this. I'm trying out new squad tactics like "Spread out"...as you can see here in the training area:
FYI the Pacific campaign dropped today.
Now wondering if there's going to be a massive imbalance of Japanese players looking for something fresh.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on September 21, 2022, 11:23:05 AM
FYI the Pacific campaign dropped today.
Now wondering if there's going to be a massive imbalance of Japanese players looking for something fresh.
If there ain't no Rising Storm-esque banzai charge as an option, then the game is poo.
-goddam knee mortars
Quote from: Dammit Carl! on September 21, 2022, 11:35:42 AM
If there ain't no Rising Storm-esque banzai charge as an option, then the game is poo.
-goddam knee mortars
Yes, the Japanese get a Banzai charge ability, and instead of a shotgun on one level they get a Shin Guntō.
Oh nice. I've been waiting for this. Gonna have to fire up the game tonight and check it out.
Tenno Heika Banzai! :D
Is Gaijin Entertainment still connected to Russia? I know they started there 20 years ago. But a Google search only confused me...
Quote from: ArizonaTank on September 21, 2022, 01:06:43 PM
Is Gaijin Entertainment still connected to Russia? I know they started there 20 years ago. But a Google search only confused me...
Gaijin relocated to Budapest.
Enlisted is only distributed by Gaijin though. It's fully run and developed by Darkflow, they're a Latvian company out of Riga and VERY publicly opposed to Putin and the war.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on September 21, 2022, 01:08:34 PM
Quote from: ArizonaTank on September 21, 2022, 01:06:43 PM
Is Gaijin Entertainment still connected to Russia? I know they started there 20 years ago. But a Google search only confused me...
Gaijin relocated to Budapest.
Enlisted is only distributed by Gaijin though. It's fully run and developed by Darkflow, they're a Latvian company out of Riga and VERY publicly opposed to Putin and the war.
Thanks, that helps a bunch!!!
Quote from: ArizonaTank on September 21, 2022, 01:13:02 PM
Thanks, that helps a bunch!!!
No problem.
I too have had some issue with how many good Sim and Wargame devs are out of Russia. But they have all made things a touch more complicated for everyone.
Eagle Dynamics has at its top some very pro-Russian Execs, but they relocated to Switzerland and most of their employees now are not Russian nationals. They also support all kinds of third parties that have nothing to do with Russia.
Virpil is Belorussian but very opposed to the war and are pushing hard on its new Tampa distribution center and physical storefront.
1C/777 is a bit more problematic. They still have their Moscow HQ and just banned any discussion of world events in any of their social media. Not sure how they feel about anything but they've always been Russian aligned. I got Normandy and FC II well before the crap hit the fan but no idea what I'll do when they put out a new module.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on September 21, 2022, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: ArizonaTank on September 21, 2022, 01:13:02 PM
Thanks, that helps a bunch!!!
I got Normandy and FC II well before the crap hit the fan but no idea what I'll do when they put out a new module.
You're of course entitled to your own opinion and feelings on the matter, but out of curiosity, why would you make a decision to not buy something from 1C? They have no official connection to the Putin or the Russian government and they certainly aren't responsible for policy decisions. Why punish them simply because they are from a place that is pursuing a policy that you take issue with? Personally, I think it is even a stretch when a Jewish person refuses to buy from BMW or Mercedes, just because they are German, and in those instances, the companies actually contributed to the German war effort. Is 1C contributing to Russian aggression in any direct or meaningful way?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 21, 2022, 01:42:33 PM
You're of course entitled to your own opinion and feelings on the matter, but out of curiosity, why would you make a decision to not buy something from 1C? They have no official connection to the Putin or the Russian government and they certainly aren't responsible for policy decisions. Why punish them simply because they are from a place that is pursuing a policy that you take issue with? Personally, I think it is even a stretch when a Jewish person refuses to buy from BMW or Mercedes, just because they are German, and in those instances, the companies actually contributed to the German war effort. Is 1C contributing to Russian aggression in any direct or meaningful way?
Honestly....I would probably still buy a module.
I've generally separated politics from my purchases and considered product before opinion.
I haven't always agreed with either Chick Fil' A or Ben and Jerrys but I sure as heck eat their product.
But I know others feel differently so I consider their stance.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 21, 2022, 01:42:33 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on September 21, 2022, 01:24:28 PM
Quote from: ArizonaTank on September 21, 2022, 01:13:02 PM
Thanks, that helps a bunch!!!
I got Normandy and FC II well before the crap hit the fan but no idea what I'll do when they put out a new module.
You're of course entitled to your own opinion and feelings on the matter, but out of curiosity, why would you make a decision to not buy something from 1C? They have no official connection to the Putin or the Russian government and they certainly aren't responsible for policy decisions. Why punish them simply because they are from a place that is pursuing a policy that you take issue with? Personally, I think it is even a stretch when a Jewish person refuses to buy from BMW or Mercedes, just because they are German, and in those instances, the companies actually contributed to the German war effort. Is 1C contributing to Russian aggression in any direct or meaningful way?
For me it's complicated, and I would never presume to tell anyone else what I think they should do.
For my part, during hostilities, I will not buy from or support Russian or Belorussian companies. I know there are probably good folks and even companies in those countries who are just victims of place and circumstance. But that does not change my thinking.
Again, I would not expect anyone else to do the same, and I am fine with anyone who feels differently.
I'm not gonna lie guys.
When it comes to my gaming, my precious precious gaming, I will buy it no matter who makes it. Unless it's from Satan I will buy the game.
^I bet Satan would make a great game.
Quote from: W8taminute on September 21, 2022, 03:46:41 PM
I'm not gonna lie guys.
When it comes to my gaming, my precious precious gaming, I will buy it no matter who makes it. Unless it's from Satan I will buy the game.
I don't believe in Satan, but if he made a game like Aces over Europe with modern graphics and full support for all HOTAS systems I'd buy it.
^
^^
You guys literally made me laugh out loud. Gimme a big hug you lugs.
Hey, didn't we used to have a hug smiley?
:hug:
Oh I see it now. I need glasses.
:hug:
Quote from: W8taminute on September 21, 2022, 08:42:40 PM
Oh I see it now. I need glasses.
:hug:
Why?
You're clearly a Romulan and should just get Retinox.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on September 22, 2022, 02:01:30 AM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 21, 2022, 08:42:40 PM
Oh I see it now. I need glasses.
:hug:
Why?
You're clearly a Romulan and should just get Retinox.
Now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever seen a Romulan wear glasses. Or a Vulcan for that matter.
So I fired up the game and played a match as the Japanese. It was a partial jungle map with a coastline to fight over. First impressions are good.