Russia's War Against Ukraine

[GDS_Starfury]

I wouldnt disagree with the west gloating over the soviet implosion of the 90s at the time.

[GDS_Starfury]

[Gusington]

That Nixon video is haunting.

[Gusington]

Good summary of what is going on at the Ukraine/Russia border near Belgorod the last 1-2 days.

[JasonPratt]

Det, weirdly enough I think we're talking about the same things happening from different angles. I don't think Putin or his regime would have been truly willing or even able to fulfill any serious concessions, without ceasing to be a gangster government, but that wouldn't stop Putin from making offers knowing they couldn't and wouldn't be taken seriously and so using that as political propaganda justification for his actions otherwise. That's typical for his behavior: for example, he'll talk about free and fair elections but when he has chances to actually do that, he doesn't -- while still claiming he did!

So we end up playing nice in the only way that looks like it may work, sending Western help for rebuilding infrastructure after the collapse of the USSR, and encouraging the opening of western capitalistic franchises in the country -- but that gets exploited both by the Putin regime AND (as you noted) by the corporations thanks to Putin's regime not really changing and never intending to change, in fact wanting to use those Western opportunities for their own bloating (just as the Western corps used the characteristics of the Putin regime for their own exploits, while the gettin' was good.) The end result however was entirely predictable: the regime eventually went too far and the Western corporations cut and run (in some cases also under political western pressure to do so, as punishment to the regime.)

[ArizonaTank]

That Nixon video is haunting.

Yep, I'm no Nixon fan, but he did get this one right.

[GDS_Starfury]

seems at least one drone got a hit

https://twitter.com/i/status/1661724151520849920

[Gusington]

^Was just going to post something almost exactly like that about Nixon, AT.

[GDS_Starfury]

breaching

[JasonPratt]

I feel like Ukraine may have to skip a few steps of that breaching combo, but still... 

[GDS_Starfury]

why?  they have the equipment and have been training in Poland and Germany with it.
they have tracked mine clearing line launchers.
they have Leo based engineering tanks
tracked bridge layers
cv90 and m2 ifvs as well as 113s

[Windigo]

Ukraine Can Recapture All its Territory
--- General Milley

[GDS_Starfury]

pretty damn good read.

https://wavellroom.com/2023/05/24/russian-airpower-ukraine-nuisance-menace/

[GDS_Starfury]

Description of the video says: The reconnaissance company of the 102nd TD brigade captures how the Russian infantry, supported by a tank and three IVFs, stormed the Ukrainian positions, a counterattack of a Ukrainian tank follows, which shoots the Russians and they flee.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1662478108241412101

[GDS_Starfury]

so let me get this right.
iran sells drones to russia.
the taliban hate russia.
so the taliban are attacking iran in retaliation.
sounds good.