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Started by Ian C, May 13, 2016, 01:07:15 PM

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jomni

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Ha!  World War 2 ends in 1942 with the defeat of the Axis.  Germany, Italy, Japan, and other minor countries capitulated. 
Japan ends up surviving with no loss in territory despite the Allies and Communist China (Me) ravaging Japan.
Germany becomes a Socialist state.
Italy mainly intact but lose some provinces.  I get some former Italian provinces in the Adriatic, Arabian Peninsula, and Corsica (actually stupid but I had no other option as these are the provinces I can claim based on my war score).

I think it's now the cold war or WW2 dedux.  I can go on an plot to battle Japan again or take out Nationalist China once and for all.



sandman2575

Anyone else find it strange that RPS *still* hasn't reviewed HOI4?

(I know RPS isn't universally beloved around here -- but it's a site I generally enjoy. I find the complete radio silence on HOI4 baffling...)

Huw the Poo

Quote from: sandman2575 on June 22, 2016, 03:23:37 PM
Anyone else find it strange that RPS *still* hasn't reviewed HOI4?

(I know RPS isn't universally beloved around here -- but it's a site I generally enjoy. I find the complete radio silence on HOI4 baffling...)

Nobody at RPS has a fucking clue how to play this kind of game.  Frankly I'm grateful that they've ignored it.

SirAndrewD

One of the longer running games I had as the UK.  Belgian troops march into Berlin in 43 after more than 150 Divisions of my Brits secure Africa and Italy.

"These men do not want a happy ship. They are deeply sick and try to compensate by making me feel miserable. Last week was my birthday. Nobody even said "happy birthday" to me. Someday this tape will be played and then they'll feel sorry."  - Sgt. Pinback

Ian C

I'd like to discuss deeper aspects of the game in specific areas but don't want to do it on the official forum and if I do it on this thread it will get endlessly off-topic. Are there any intelligent non threadlocking user-friendly forums for HOI elsewhere?

Huw the Poo

Quote from: Ian C on June 22, 2016, 03:59:17 PM
I'd like to discuss deeper aspects of the game in specific areas but don't want to do it on the official forum and if I do it on this thread it will get endlessly off-topic. Are there any intelligent non threadlocking user-friendly forums for HOI elsewhere?

If it's about the game, this would seem like an ideal place...?  If you really want to go elsewhere though, try /r/paradoxplaza on Reddit.

CptHowdy

Quote from: Ian C on June 22, 2016, 03:59:17 PM
I'd like to discuss deeper aspects of the game in specific areas but don't want to do it on the official forum and if I do it on this thread it will get endlessly off-topic. Are there any intelligent non threadlocking user-friendly forums for HOI elsewhere?

give us some credit! i think you can discuss things here. this topic is very general though. not sure how the mods would react if you made a thread discussing a specific aspect such as military, economy, research etc...

FarAway Sooner

This thread's had enough legs, try starting a separate, more focused thread on this forum and see if it has legs!  That's my vote, anyways...

Jarhead0331

Quote from: CptHowdy on June 22, 2016, 04:05:39 PM
Quote from: Ian C on June 22, 2016, 03:59:17 PM
I'd like to discuss deeper aspects of the game in specific areas but don't want to do it on the official forum and if I do it on this thread it will get endlessly off-topic. Are there any intelligent non threadlocking user-friendly forums for HOI elsewhere?

give us some credit! i think you can discuss things here. this topic is very general though. not sure how the mods would react if you made a thread discussing a specific aspect such as military, economy, research etc...

Definitely keep the conversations here at Grogheads. Its ok to create other threads. We won't mod them. If there are enough threads and enough interest, we could create a subforum for the game.
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sandman2575

Quote from: Huw the Poo on June 22, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
Quote from: sandman2575 on June 22, 2016, 03:23:37 PM
Anyone else find it strange that RPS *still* hasn't reviewed HOI4?

(I know RPS isn't universally beloved around here -- but it's a site I generally enjoy. I find the complete radio silence on HOI4 baffling...)

Nobody at RPS has a fucking clue how to play this kind of game.  Frankly I'm grateful that they've ignored it.

Tim Stone?

Huw the Poo

Quote from: sandman2575 on June 22, 2016, 04:50:42 PM
Quote from: Huw the Poo on June 22, 2016, 03:53:38 PM
Nobody at RPS has a fucking clue how to play this kind of game.  Frankly I'm grateful that they've ignored it.

Tim Stone?

I was more referring to John Walker's recent coverage of Stellaris.  Does Tim still write for RPS?  Fair enough - why didn't he review Stellaris then?  Why hasn't he reviewed HoI4?

Con

Every time I play this game I learn literally an ecyclopedia of new things.

Played Italy trying to go Fascist but befriending everyone to try and stay out of the war while building infrastructure.  My goal was to let Britain and France slog it out with the German and then swoop in to take over the exhausted combatants on both sides.  Of course what happened was radically different.  I didnt enter combat until 1944 by which point Britains armies were massive had invaded Germany and taken Berlin, the US entered the war and reinforced the Suez canal, France took over Spain choking off the Med and my 2000 fighters were swatted out of the sky by a combined force of 5K plus allied onslaught.  So being passive only gets you put over the barrel at a later date.  However I watched a lot more videos and learn so much more each time that the lack of an ecylopedic manual for this game is a criminal offense.

Also I would like to see something more interactive than videos.  In this day it should be possible to have a game file from a knowledgeable player that we can download and play on our computers ourselves.  They could put tool tips on where major decisions were taken an audio track of the players thoughts and strategies.  If this was playable you could stop it at some point and play onward from that position, check out what other events are happening under the hood for supply/production etc. and be able to use the interface!  Watching videos is only superficially helpful in that you are not interacting with the game.  I just found out how to properly adjust battle plans and how to set up fleet engagements after watch hours of videos.  A playable game file with explanatory tool tips would have solved that issue for me long ago.

Con

glen55

Quote from: Con on June 22, 2016, 05:38:36 PM
Every time I play this game I learn literally an ecyclopedia of new things.

Played Italy trying to go Fascist but befriending everyone to try and stay out of the war while building infrastructure.  My goal was to let Britain and France slog it out with the German and then swoop in to take over the exhausted combatants on both sides.  Of course what happened was radically different.  I didnt enter combat until 1944 by which point Britains armies were massive had invaded Germany and taken Berlin, the US entered the war and reinforced the Suez canal, France took over Spain choking off the Med and my 2000 fighters were swatted out of the sky by a combined force of 5K plus allied onslaught.  So being passive only gets you put over the barrel at a later date.  However I watched a lot more videos and learn so much more each time that the lack of an ecylopedic manual for this game is a criminal offense.

Also I would like to see something more interactive than videos.  In this day it should be possible to have a game file from a knowledgeable player that we can download and play on our computers ourselves.  They could put tool tips on where major decisions were taken an audio track of the players thoughts and strategies.  If this was playable you could stop it at some point and play onward from that position, check out what other events are happening under the hood for supply/production etc. and be able to use the interface!  Watching videos is only superficially helpful in that you are not interacting with the game.  I just found out how to properly adjust battle plans and how to set up fleet engagements after watch hours of videos.  A playable game file with explanatory tool tips would have solved that issue for me long ago.

Con

It is certainly a lot of work to figure out how to play this game, and I am not sure that the state of the AI justifies it.

There is a lot to love about this game, though a lot of good broken ground.  I've never seen anything like the way divisions are produced, and the Battle Planner is a sweet, sweet idea that actually works pretty doggoned well (absent a couple of little problems that can easily be earned out. I hope Paradox gives the AI the same kind of TLC it gave to the AI in EU 4.  This could be a real breakthrough game for this series.  Warts and all, I have already played it as much as probably any HOI game.
Things are more like they are now than they have ever been before.
  - Dwight D. Eisenhower

jomni

I'm now in a stupid situation.  My main army is in Japan but we are not at peace.  Since I lost control of coastal provinces and naval assets due to the peace treaty, I can't bring them home.

jamus34

Quote from: jomni on June 22, 2016, 09:55:19 PM
I'm now in a stupid situation.  My main army is in Japan but we are not at peace.  Since I lost control of coastal provinces and naval assets due to the peace treaty, I can't bring them home.

Sounds like the same bug they had in Stellaris. I'm sure it's on the top of the patch list.
Insert witty comment here.