bob and me are speaking on Steam and he asked me did I like Age of Wonders III. I said yes I did, but it would shine in MP compared to solo. So, we thought we'd start a spontaneous game. It starts in an hour. If you want in, sound off now!
No way would I play MP with Bob, he's a nutter........
And his hearing aint what it used to be, although I think half the time, he deliberately miss-hears what you say. Its what his missus calls 'selective deafness'.
ive heard it doesnt work that well, but good luck
Count me in although I fear I may be a bit late. Let me log into Steam and see where you guys are. ;)
It works fine in MP, although it kicked MD out once, but I saved it and we got back in no problem and had about 3 hours in-game. It would be better with more players though.
does it not make you watch everybodys battles? this was the big hoo hah when it first came out?
Just finished a quick start session with MD. We experienced no problems. Haven't seen any battles yet as we just started a game.
No. You do not have to watch the other guys battle. Although, I will say that I auto resolved everything and I suspect that bob did too. So, you may have to watch the other guys battle. Bad post over all for me :(
Before I leave for the night just wanted to comment that you do not see manual battles of other players. Noticed this while playing against MetalDog just now.
Ok. You don't SEE the other guys battle, but, you have to wait until he's done with it for you to finish the turn. And you can't do ANYTHING while the battle is going on. So, bring a book. Have the television on. Do sudoku. It'll be awhile. I have to imagine, that unless you are patient, and I am, you would have to agree before hand what the parameters for engaging in tactical battles are going to be. Like, only if it's your capital city or your leader is involved in a Closely Matched or worse. Something along those lines.
^It's that kind of thing that I didn't like about Warlock MP...things took forever sometimes and there was a lot of waiting around.
So.......you bought me AoW III to take me away from Warlock? ;D
Quote from: MetalDog on January 03, 2015, 06:47:12 PM
No. You do not have to watch the other guys battle. Although, I will say that I auto resolved everything and I suspect that bob did too. So, you may have to watch the other guys battle. Bad post over all for me :(
Yep, I auto'd the battles against the AI, although I suspect that when facing a real player, we may want to do the tactical battles 'live'.
I would agree with that.
Quote from: Gusington on January 03, 2015, 10:00:38 PM
^It's that kind of thing that I didn't like about Warlock MP...things took forever sometimes and there was a lot of waiting around.
Yeah you really have to be a patient kind of person to enjoy Warlock MP. It is rewarding though because I think there is a bit more thought involved in playing your turns in Warlock vs. AoWIII. Both are great games though.
^Although I haven't played AoW anywhere as much as Warlock 1 and 2, I think you are right about that.
The strat map in AoW:SM could be played in simultaneous real-time between players, and I thought I saw that as an option when piddling with the tutorial in AoW3, too.
So that's one advantage in its favor of many other MP games.
Yes. Your turns are simultaneous. However, if one person enters a tactical battle, the other player(s) are locked out of doing anything until the battle is over. And it may be as 'geek said earlier, you may have to watch the battle if it occurs in an area that you can see. Not sure if that is true, but, it seems plausible. I haven't delved in to all the nuts and bolts options available yet, so, there may be a way around being locked up during someone elses battle, but I doubt it.
Got in a session with W8taminute tonight. Played for a couple of hours. Started the session with 6 cities, now I have ten. And a Settler on the way for an eleventh. I have Orc, Draconian, Elf, Human and Giant cities. I am a High Elf Sorcerer. That's a lot different than a Draconian Warlord. I keep wondering where the hell my gold and my ass kickers are! Getting things moving now though. The Giants are going to be SUPER handy. And I dropped a couple of Eldritch Horrors on the board, too. One is already Elite :)
In terms of cities I've right behind MD with 7, one of which is a Dwarf city. My other cities are all human. Purge the xenos!
I don't have any beastly units of the kind that MD has but I've assembled a few strike groups which are capturing some AI cities right now. I should be at MDs border soon. We'll see what happens next. 8)
Quote from: MetalDog on January 07, 2015, 10:50:17 PM
Got in a session with W8taminute tonight. Played for a couple of hours. Started the session with 6 cities, now I have ten. And a Settler on the way for an eleventh. I have Orc, Draconian, Elf, Human and Giant cities. I am a High Elf Sorcerer. That's a lot different than a Draconian Warlord. I keep wondering where the hell my gold and my ass kickers are! Getting things moving now though. The Giants are going to be SUPER handy. And I dropped a couple of Eldritch Horrors on the board, too. One is already Elite :)
Giants are excellent troops to have. As long as the game doesn't get a supply model in the future that forces you to keep them fed. :)
Giants, I am told, like to eat human meat. Guess we'll find out ;)
Quote from: MetalDog on January 08, 2015, 11:51:37 PM
Giants, I am told, like to eat human meat. Guess we'll find out ;)
My Fire and Hill Giants eat through just about anything. Including fortress gates. ^-^
This thread has taken a disturbing turn into euphemisms for dirty talk.
Sigh. Yet another game I haven't spent enough time with.
AoW3...FE:LH...WoM...it's a good time to be a fantasy 4x gamer!
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on January 09, 2015, 11:57:27 AM
This thread has taken the usual turn into euphemisms for dirty talk.
FTFY :P
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on January 09, 2015, 11:57:27 AM
This thread has taken a disturbing turn into euphemisms for dirty talk.
I didn't say those fortress gates were hairy, although sometimes they can be.
You'll have to excuse B_C. He took a nasty knock to the head and his filter is slightly askew. EVERYTHING is a dirty euphemism to him now.
No, there's no excuse for me. Besides, disturbing is perfectly acceptable.
Plus, adding ^-^ to pretty much anything makes it dirty.
That's funny. The first thought that popped into my head about Giants eating human meat was an image of bolter fire tearing through carapace armour and meat ala any of the WH40K Horus Heresy series. Those books tend to be quite descriptive of the effects of Space Marine weapons on human or xenos bodies.
An hour with W8 tonight. Preparing the last bit of expansion before I come up against hard borders. It'll top me out at 14 cities. A good mix of races and magic. And some surprises for my enemies.
Post #3000, yay!!
Our borders now touch each others but I'm about 7 cities behind MD in terms of count. I'm working on re-organizing my OOB in preparation for some action. With whom is not certain yet. :coolsmiley:
My house was full of kids friday night and today due to my daughters having their friends over. Saturday was nice and quiet so I used it to catch up on personal gaming. I'll try to look for you tonight MD so we can resume our game. May log on this afternoon but I'll probably try to use that time to escape here and there from the assault of the kids my home is undergoing currently.
Congrats on 3,000 :) If you see me and bob this afternoon, don't hesitate to ping one of us.
Alrighty then! Got in a session with bob AND W8! And now that the Warlock MP is kaput, we are taking volunteers for an AoW3 MP. You can play as many as 8. The sessions would be for two hours on Sunday morning. 7am to 9 am CST. That's -6 GMT. I just ask that anyone who commits, realizes how long a MP game can actually take. Especially once a week. Everyone is welcome.
That's a game that will last longer than many marriages do these days.
So, you're in then?
I would like to but not Sunday mornings. If you have other times for MP let me know.
Any time you see me on is a good time, Gus. Bison just loaded up, maybe we should do a three way.
Quote from: Bison on January 18, 2015, 05:21:27 PM
That's a game that will last longer than many marriages do these days.
lol - ah, you've played MP with MD before then.............. ;)
Kinky.
Y'all can go soak your heads :P
^Kinkier.
I'm so grossed out right now.
The game actually pisses me off. It's fun until I realized it's a race to tier IV units. I'm going to beat the campaign, but I think I'll have to restart my current stage, because I was messing around trying to build up armies and power and I should have just made a bunch of tier I units and rushed the first city straight away.
You don't want to three way with me and Gus? He loves to play, he just doesn't say anything.
Quote from: Bison on January 18, 2015, 05:38:16 PM
I'm so grossed out right now.
The game actually pisses me off. It's fun until I realized it's a race to tier IV units. I'm going to beat the campaign, but I think I'll have to restart my current stage, because I was messing around trying to build up armies and power and I should have just made a bunch of tier I units and rushed the first city straight away.
As it happens, we were talking in-game today about just spamming lots of cheap units......
There's a campaign?!
Well against the AI it really just makes sense, because if you sit too many turns they just build power stacks of tier III and IV. Then it just turns into a grind of producing your top tier units and that isn't fun at all.
Nah. I don't need no stinking campaign!
I'm about ready to go back and play Rome II.
Anything I can help with?
His family is about to double in size. What can you do?
Be glad I am a bachelor with grown children?
No I'm just not a really fan of the tactical battles and auto resolving them seems lazy. I'll get over it and force myself to love the game!
I auto resolve all of them. I build the right buildings to get as many different troop types and ribbons as I can for my troops. I also try to pick unit buffs and spells for my Heroes that will help in the tac battles. Then I make sure to bring enough to win whatever battle I am facing.
I thought the tactical battles were ok but I don't think anyone is missing anything through autoresolving.
It's like skipping half of the game if you auto resolve. Also because there is no spell scripting for an auto resolved, you are left to the whims of your spell caster. Anyway there is fun to be had, I'm just not sure it's the best of the fantasy 4X games available to be played these days. I reserved the right to retract all my statements!
I agree with your, 'race to Tier IV,' plaint. I don't like it either. And as a solo game, I don't see myself playing this like I do Civ or even Warlock. However, I really think it will be a good MP. You should seriously consider joining our Sunday morning game.
The tactical battles are alright but take a long time especially with larger armies and are not as epic as tactical battles in other games. Is there a penalty for autoresolving?
Not that I am aware of. Then again, I'm only 60 or so hours in. There's a lot I still don't know.
Quote from: Gusington on January 18, 2015, 07:23:25 PM
The tactical battles are alright but take a long time especially with larger armies and are not as epic as tactical battles in other games. Is there a penalty for autoresolving?
The biggest penalty I can see is your inability to influence which powers or spells are used during the battle.
Yeah I can understand that. But I wonder if there's more all-around penalties like in the TW games where the player has less of a chance of winning as soon as he chooses to autoresolve.
It doesn't seem like it. The other issue is there is no way to know why or how you lost once it's autoresolved.
It's obvious what the reason for losing an autoresolve is: you didn't bring enough to win. Let's not make this any harder than it has to be. I have no doubt that a swarm of Tier I's and II's can take down armies filled with their betters. I also have no doubt that there is a number and composition at which higher level armies need not worry about creature swarms. It's all going to come down to whether you prefer the tac battles or autoresolve. Then adjust your play style accordingly.
How dare you tell me to play how I want!
Quote from: MetalDog on January 18, 2015, 08:56:35 PM
It's obvious what the reason for losing an autoresolve is: you didn't bring enough to win. Let's not make this any harder than it has to be. I have no doubt that a swarm of Tier I's and II's can take down armies filled with their betters. I also have no doubt that there is a number and composition at which higher level armies need not worry about creature swarms. It's all going to come down to whether you prefer the tac battles or autoresolve. Then adjust your play style accordingly.
Well I've swarmed a Tier III and IV army with multiple armies of Tier I and II units, but I outnumbered them significantly. It's ultimately I think a cost prohibitive strategy, because of the cost to replenish units and tie up your city productions. I don't know, but I think Dom4 is my fantasy 4X of choice tbh.
The same principles apply, solo or mp, but, I will prefer mp. The again, I usually do. It's been a lot of fun to chit chat with, bob, W8, and Kushan while playing.
I have 39 cities, two of which are underground. The map is medium sized with seven total players. I just had one of the AI's surrender. That emptied his remaining cities, gave me possession of one and I can now use the defeated AI's Hero as one of my own Heroes.
Ah the age old debate on to auto resolve or manually fight tactical battles. Whenever I play AoWIII single player I fight all my battles manually. Love the combat system and fight it every chance I get. Except for when it's 6 of my guys against 1 ai unit.
In any of the Total War series I tend to resolve half of my battles automatically. The biggest reason for that is due to the load time required to start the manual battle.
169 Turns to defeat 6 A. I.'s I liked that they would surrender if you were overwhelming them. It wasn't going to take a bunch more turns, but, I wasn't looking forward to digging out the last opponent from her strongholds. Still didn't get offered any more Heroes after I turned down the initial few. That's ok though. Between my Hero and the other two I accepted, we did alright.
This probably won't be a solo play for me. At least not much. I've got about 70 hours in all told and three different MP games going, so, it's going to be played for a while :) Thanks, Gus!
Got 90 minutes in with W8 tonight. There's four of us on the board, 2 human, 2 AI. I declared war on an Orc Dreadnought. Her territories are not in as tight alignment as they should be and that makes them vulnerable. She is also at war with the other AI. So, I take the first city and get a lot of my troops shot up, including one of my Heroes, pretty badly. I retreat to the newly captured city to heal.
Two turns go by and no heal, for the troops OR the Hero. I look at the Unit description and see that I can't regenerate. The reason is someone has placed an Armageddon spell on the board which does not allow me to regenerate. Looking in the spell column, I notice it's W8 that has it cast!! WTF?!?!?! There's no reason to do me like that!
So, I politely contact Mr. aminute and let him know the distress he is causing me. He acts a bit...confused. 'I thought that only applied to people invading me', he says. I tell him no, it affects the whole board. I congratulate him on his Alliance with the other AI. The one I am not currently at war with. He says, 'Oh. You see that, too, do yah?' I answer in the affirmative and follow up with, 'So, when are you coming across my borders?' 'Soon,' says he. And promptly declares war on the AI I am fighting. Now it's a land grab. And I am the odd man out.
Huh sounds like someone is coming in "second" again.
Sure is looking that way.
It's fascinating because unlike MD I tend not to pay too much attention to what's going on in the game world around me. However once MD's borders touched mine I started to analyse the situation.
Our internal security forces observed more than one incursion into our lands by small recon groups. We let them pass through uninhibited and we also did not raise any issues diplomatically. Instead our reaction was what MD describes. :)
I'm still worried about what's going to happen because based on what units I saw in MD's recon forces I've got nothing to match. Still I figure my tactics and what few tier 3 units I have should keep him busy. I've got 10 cities atm to his 14+.
Distract him with puns.
I thought my Sorcerer was invisible! It says so. I spent 15 points upgrading that SOB to Invisible! HOW COME YOU CAN SEE HIM?!?!?!
And you just be quiet, Bison. He doesn't need your help :P
Who says he saw the sorcerer? ;)
I can't remember if the leader and his two monster I saw was a sorcerer or not but I saw something!
Filthy hAx0rZ warlockery!
:P
There is a buff called True Sight which allows you to see Concealed and Invisible characters, so, I am not completely surprised. I was more shocked that W8 took active measures to oppose me. Not that he was incapable or unable to do so, just that I hadn't considered I was that much of a threat.
Quote from: MetalDog on January 26, 2015, 07:19:45 PM
.... just that I hadn't considered I was that much of a threat.
:2funny:
Liked that, didja? If you could have taken several years less of vacation this winter, you might have had a chance at some revenge :P
I'll be honest though. I wasn't considering MD a threat until I saw those monsters of his. My original plan was to continue to live in peace next to him while steadily building up my conventional forces. Those monsters made me realize my glorious army of Tier I archers and swordsmen would get crushed. Then I looked for ways to counter these threats and stumbled upon the aforementioned trickery. AoWIII is a very easy game to read. Unlike the Dominion 3 and 4 games one can quite easily figure out how to counter the various moves in AoWIII.
While I'm on the subject. I can't tell you how many MP games of Dominions I've played where I thought my grand army of the realm was impressive. Then some dickweed comes along with some obscure spell and a single thug and rips my entrails out so fast and so violently my empire is eliminated in a matter of a few turns. Talk about a frustrating game. I've never silently raged quit in my life. I say silently because in a PBEM game you can scream but no one will hear you. Playing Dominions with other people literally put a hole in my stomach and gave heart palpitations. It's because if you don't know what you're doing in Dominions you have got no chance. At least AoW and Fallen Enchantress are easy to figure out yet complex enough to hold one's attention.
Ok rant over. Sorry just had to get that off my chest. 8)
An old thread, but screw it. I figure you guys in the know on this game will see this.
Just bought AoW III (finally) on Steam for 9.99. Trying to play it and I'm getting some 'Sign up for a Triumph Account' bullshit. Did you guys sign up for this crap?
Yeah, you have to if you want to play multiplayer. It's so that people with Steam and non-Steam versions can play together.
Hopefully this will be one of the problems that GOG's Galaxy client will solve, if it works as advertised. :)
reading this again reminds me of this
please just give it 5 mins its hilarious, its how imagine you guys play
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on June 21, 2015, 09:11:11 AM
An old thread, but screw it. I figure you guys in the know on this game will see this.
Just bought AoW III (finally) on Steam for 9.99. Trying to play it and I'm getting some 'Sign up for a Triumph Account' bullshit. Did you guys sign up for this crap?
Yes, I did.
Haven't played multi-player AOW3 yet. But I have the GOG version so it made sense to do so. I often put it in "Guest/Offline" mode so I don't have to log in for my single-player campaigns, however, so it's not like you have to log in to use it.
If you guys ever get another MP game going, I may be up for it.
I created the account, too. And I'm in for a mp play.
I wasn't really wanting yet another account somewhere, but at least it ain't Uplay and requiring some third party software to run to get IT to run.
The game ran okay for a bit. I started the Elven campaign (tutorial), got my leader killed, restarted, got her killed again, wanted to restart a third time, but the game locked up and wouldn't even respond to Ctrl+Alt+Del, so I had to hard reboot my PC to exit out. Not a glorious start; AoW III might be more than my old PC can handle. I'd be up for a MP game once I figure out what the hell I'm doing in-game and if my PC decides to play ball.
I volunteer to be Banzai_Cat's neighbor in any AOW3 games!
>:D
Is that like being MD's neighbor in Warlock? :-\
B_C's been my neighbor in Warlock, too ;)
Yeah, MD...your neighbor is a sea of frikkin' sand. Same sand that's in my vagina right now, whining about this.
The tutorial campaign is different from the Let's Play vids I've seen, which is weird.