With a new office and new desks, I just couldn't resist getting a new rig too...
Intel Core i7-9700K
32GB DDR4 Memory
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti, 11GB
3TB HDD + 480GB SSD
800W Power supply
I figure this powerhouse will remain relevant for at least 3 years.
"No beast is more alpha than JH." -- Gus :D
Very nice!
I am waiting on my own rig as the CPU cooler is to arrive anytime.
Just wondering why you paid extra to get 32 GB of RAM and not just 16 GB? I researched and read that 16 GB of plenty for gaming, but some may need 32 GB for work programs or video editing. Thus I ordered 16 GB as I don't have any RAM heavy work programs on my home computer.
I also stayed with a RTX 2070 as I am only running a 60 Hz 1080p monitor for now.
^Bragging rights.
My main rig now has 32GB and I didn't want to downgrade there. It certainly can't hurt my VR flying in DCS.
I am not sure you can ever have too much memory.
Nice rig, JH!
My very lightly used back-up rig is listed for sale in the trading post if anyone happens to be interested. O:-)
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=23846.0 (http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=23846.0)
My heavily used 4 year old gaming pc can beat up your mom.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 12, 2019, 12:36:32 PM
My main rig now has 32GB and I didn't want to downgrade there. It certainly can't hurt my VR flying in DCS.
Makes sense! If I run into a need for 32 GB, I could always go to that later. I don't do VR yet, but maybe later.
I am impressed with your RTX 2080 Ti choice. Wow! It's about double what I paid for the 2070 Super.
Quote from: WallysWorld on September 12, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 12, 2019, 12:36:32 PM
My main rig now has 32GB and I didn't want to downgrade there. It certainly can't hurt my VR flying in DCS.
Makes sense! If I run into a need for 32 GB, I could always go to that later. I don't do VR yet, but maybe later.
I am impressed with your RTX 2080 Ti choice. Wow! It's about double what I paid for the 2070 Super.
The rig altogether was a great deal. $2400. Most of that is probably GFX card, lol. Most I've ever spent on a pc by about $800 or $900.
I jinxed myself by saying this powerhouse will remain relevant for at least 3 years. lol.
Enter the 3000 series. System became obsolete overnight. Just over one year. :'(
Hey congrats Jarhead, may your gaming go well. Good to see a lot of familiar names still posting here (I was on a long hiatus due to work and family. Are you using any VR headset yet ?
I wouldn't worry too much about being irrelevant with a RTX 2080 gpu and your CPU. The RTX 2080 is superb and there's always something new around the corner. You can update most of the components you need and probably even sell the 2080 pretty fast.
I just built a new system together myself after 10 years and just settled on a GTX 1660 Super but with a Ryzen 3600 CPU on sale and a nice mid tower from Phanteks (had to splurge a bit). Still gaming on 1080p/60Hz these days, but mostly RPGs or strategy games.
Quote from: endfire79 on November 15, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
Hey congrats Jarhead, may your gaming go well. Good to see a lot of familiar names still posting here (I was on a long hiatus due to work and family. Are you using any VR headset yet ?
I wouldn't worry too much about being irrelevant with a RTX 2080 gpu and your CPU. The RTX 2080 is superb and there's always something new around the corner. You can update most of the components you need and probably even sell the 2080 pretty fast.
I just built a new system together myself after 10 years and just settled on a GTX 1660 Super but with a Ryzen 3600 CPU on sale and a nice mid tower from Phanteks (had to splurge a bit). Still gaming on 1080p/60Hz these days, but mostly RPGs or strategy games.
Good to hear from you. Sometimes work sucks.
Quote from: endfire79 on November 15, 2020, 05:11:24 PM
Hey congrats Jarhead, may your gaming go well. Good to see a lot of familiar names still posting here (I was on a long hiatus due to work and family. Are you using any VR headset yet ?
I wouldn't worry too much about being irrelevant with a RTX 2080 gpu and your CPU. The RTX 2080 is superb and there's always something new around the corner. You can update most of the components you need and probably even sell the 2080 pretty fast.
I just built a new system together myself after 10 years and just settled on a GTX 1660 Super but with a Ryzen 3600 CPU on sale and a nice mid tower from Phanteks (had to splurge a bit). Still gaming on 1080p/60Hz these days, but mostly RPGs or strategy games.
Good to hear from you, bro. This is an old thread though. I got this rig over a year ago! Was just thinking about getting a new one with an RTX 3080. I currently play VR with a rift-s, quest 2 and hp reverb. I have a reverb g2 on order!
@Airboy: Good to hear from you too and nice game blog by the way.
@Jarhead: I should have checked that thread date - I see the other rig thread now. You have been busy! Dang that's a lot of VR sets. Is there one for each occasion ?
Quote from: endfire79 on November 15, 2020, 08:56:23 PM
@Airboy: Good to hear from you too and nice game blog by the way.
@Jarhead: I should have checked that thread date - I see the other rig thread now. You have been busy! Dang that's a lot of VR sets. Is there one for each occasion ?
Pretty much. Reverbs are for seated flight sims. Rift and quest for roomscale.
you use that for DCS ::)
this is the setup for playing DCS
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 15, 2020, 10:01:32 PM
Quote from: endfire79 on November 15, 2020, 08:56:23 PM
@Airboy: Good to hear from you too and nice game blog by the way.
@Jarhead: I should have checked that thread date - I see the other rig thread now. You have been busy! Dang that's a lot of VR sets. Is there one for each occasion ?
Pretty much. Reverbs are for seated flight sims. Rift and quest for roomscale.
Isn't there an option to use alternate controllers as well as towers for outside in tracking? I'd love to benefit from that great Reverb resolution for shooters like HL:Alyx.
Quote from: Ubercat on November 16, 2020, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 15, 2020, 10:01:32 PM
Quote from: endfire79 on November 15, 2020, 08:56:23 PM
@Airboy: Good to hear from you too and nice game blog by the way.
@Jarhead: I should have checked that thread date - I see the other rig thread now. You have been busy! Dang that's a lot of VR sets. Is there one for each occasion ?
Pretty much. Reverbs are for seated flight sims. Rift and quest for roomscale.
Isn't there an option to use alternate controllers as well as towers for outside in tracking? I'd love to benefit from that great Reverb resolution for shooters like HL:Alyx.
Yes, it is sometimes possible to mix and match headsets and controllers, so long as they are based off of the same technology. For instance, you can use Valve index controllers with any headset that uses Valve tracking tech. However, its not the most simple process, it may require third-party software and a lot of tinkering to get it working right. There are other things you need to consider though too...for a game like HL: Alyx, you might also want a stronger audio experience, or better FOV, optics, comfort, etc. The Reverb has great resolution that makes it ideal for simming, but in my opinion, that is where its strength lies. It really excels at little else. The G2 should drastically expand on this though, with unrivaled resolution and clarity with much better audio, comfort, etc. making it an all around better VR headset/package.
OK. So I've built this and it's in my cart. Price is right around the $3,000 mark.
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Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900X 3.7GHz 12-Core
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO - ATX
Memory: G.SKILL Z Trident Total 64 GB Dual Channel Memory
Graphics Card: NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 3080 10GB GDDR6X
Operating System Storage: 1TB Patriot P300 PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe
CPU Liquid Cooling: CLX Quench 240 Closed Liquid Cooler
Secondary Storage: 4TB 3.5in Seagate Barracuda HDD
Chassis Selection: Set Eclipse P400S Mid Tower Black/Red
Chassis Fans: CLX Red Ring Fan
Power Supply: EVGA 850 B3 - 80+ Bronze 850W
I'm not sure about the motherboard though. I really just took a guess. It is definitely compatible with the build, but I'm not sure if I could find better value or performance out of something else and I know very little about MOBOs. I also want to make sure it is upgradeable to an RTX 3090, which is ultimately the goal. I just don't want to spend that kind of money now.. I also need to find out how many USB and display ports this thing will have.
Would like SSD space as secondary storage and a 1000w PSU, but that all puts me over my budget.
Otherwise, I think this will be a killer rig if I get it.
Any thoughts, especially on the MOBO issue???
Is the cost difference between the RTX 3080 and 3090 about 600.00? Or is it more?
Quote from: Gusington on January 15, 2021, 10:01:37 AM
Is the cost difference between the RTX 3080 and 3090 about 600.00? Or is it more?
More! Closer to $1200.
Wow. Damn. Understood why you would not want to drop that cash right now, then.
You should be fine with a B550A motherboard if that is the price point you're aiming for. The X570 is about $200 more. If you're not doing crazy overclocking or don't need more pci expansion slots or usb ports, B550A should be fine. With the Ryzen 9 5900x and liquid cooling, you should be able to overclock normally fine if you're into that.
The B550A is a B450 that is set for the OEM and pre-built market I think (they didnt want to wait for the B550's to come out so wanted something with more appeal). I believe most of the AMD AM4 motherboard lines have received BIOS updates as well to support the latest Ryzens, even some of the older boards.
You can find another NVMe ssd on sale later and slap that in as well.
Have fun and enjoy with that kickass CPU and GPU combo!
Good choice of case btw (Phanteks Eclipse P400S). I went with the P600s black. I really like Phantek's designs.
Here's my build: http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=25037.0 (http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=25037.0)
I went with a x570 board and a and a Ryzen-5 3600 I got on sale before the B550's and came out full force. Hopefully will update with a GTX 3060 later, and update the CPU if I have to. Good thing with the AMD AM4 boards is you're able to support all the way through with Ryzen 9 via BIOS updates.
Well, I finally pulled the trigger on the rig. The final specs are the same as those posted above except I cut the secondary storage down to 3TB just to save a few extra bucks.
My primary systems will now be this new rig, which I intend to use exclusively for VR siming. The old i7 10th gen with a 2080ti for most of my traditional highend gaming. Another i7 8th gen with a 1080 for lower-end gaming and a third i7 6th gen with a 1070 for my workshop where I do my 3D printing. My last i7 with a 970 will go to my daughter as her first PC for minecraft, roblox and hopefully some education.
Enjoy!
I just got to update my 8yr old 3570k for star citizen.
5800
32gig ram
M.2 500 and 250gig drives
N75 corsair water cooling
To pair with my existing 900w psu and 1080 gpu
Now star citizen does not run my cpu at 100% and is by default now less buggy.
The 5800x however is a heat beast and the temps still scare me. I am going to have to put a lot nore fans in the old case I am using.
I don't usually go amd. But wanted pci4 support and the bang for the buck was undeniable. I absolutely think intel designs for hear sink attachment and the quality of the chip designs are better. But intel prices are not competitive. When I purchased the 5800x they were very hard to come by btw. Gpus are the same. So I am going to try to hold off until prices lower, not that they are looking like they will. Damn you covid and bitcoin miners!
Quote from: endfire79 on January 15, 2021, 10:19:48 PM
You should be fine with a B550A motherboard if that is the price point you're aiming for. The X570 is about $200 more. If you're not doing crazy overclocking or don't need more pci expansion slots or usb ports, B550A should be fine. With the Ryzen 9 5900x and liquid cooling, you should be able to overclock normally fine if you're into that.
The B550A is a B450 that is set for the OEM and pre-built market I think (they didnt want to wait for the B550's to come out so wanted something with more appeal). I believe most of the AMD AM4 motherboard lines have received BIOS updates as well to support the latest Ryzens, even some of the older boards.
You can find another NVMe ssd on sale later and slap that in as well.
Have fun and enjoy with that kickass CPU and GPU combo!
Good choice of case btw (Phanteks Eclipse P400S). I went with the P600s black. I really like Phantek's designs.
Here's my build: http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=25037.0 (http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=25037.0)
I went with a x570 board and a and a Ryzen-5 3600 I got on sale before the B550's and came out full force. Hopefully will update with a GTX 3060 later, and update the CPU if I have to. Good thing with the AMD AM4 boards is you're able to support all the way through with Ryzen 9 via BIOS updates.
I posted my specs in another forum and some people seem to think I really should have gone with an x570 due to pcie4. I know that the 550A-Pro has pcie4, but according to this one guy, only one slot. I'm not sure how much of a difference this will make in performance, but at $200 more, it really wasn't an option for me. Some people are such snobs!
Hot new rig, JH! Just too bad you went AMD. :2funny:
Quote from: Yskonyn on January 23, 2021, 08:02:29 AM
Hot new rig, JH! Just too bad you went AMD. :2funny:
Seemed to be the better processor for value. What don't you like about AMD? First time I have gone with them in over a decade.
Just joking. The old Intel vs AMD debate people like to get all fired up about.
That said, I have had two AMD rigs and both did suffer from annoying anomalies like driver issues or weird instabilities.
But this is perhaps 10 years ago.
Ugh...my system was estimated to ship by 2/2. Of course, we're past that now and still no dice. The rig is assembled...except for the GFX card, which, of course, is on back order. They're expecting to receive some 3080s on Monday so we'll see. Fingers crossed.
Good luck breh.
Still no shipment due to shortage of 3080 cards.
There is an option to possible swap the 3080 for an RX 6900 XT for no change in cost. I know some people really dislike the AMD GFX cards, but this seems to be a really attractive option. The 6900 is AMD's answer to the 3090, so it would seem to be the better card over a 3080. I've watched a few benchmarks and it frequently outperforms the 3080 and in some cases outperforms the 3090.
What are your thoughts?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 25, 2021, 02:08:59 PM
Still no shipment due to shortage of 3080 cards.
There is an option to possible swap the 3080 for an RX 6900 XT for no change in cost. I know some people really dislike the AMD GFX cards, but this seems to be a really attractive option. The 6900 is AMD's answer to the 3090, so it would seem to be the better card over a 3080. I've watched a few benchmarks and it frequently outperforms the 3080 and in some cases outperforms the 3090.
What are your thoughts?
Whenever I suffer a similar dilemma, I ask myself, if they were both in front of me which would I prefer.....and I go with that, even if I have to wait.
which format does your monitor prefer? amd has the freesync things and nvidia has G-sync
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on February 25, 2021, 02:23:10 PM
which format does your monitor prefer? amd has the freesync things and nvidia has G-sync
I wont be gaming much with a monitor on this rig. It will almost exclusively be VR.
This doesn't look very favorable though...
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3080-vs-AMD-RX-6900-XT/4080vs4091?fbclid=IwAR3un0OYcvNSDpm5CuGxoPX_eEj0XtiT88ukZpTH42ZRDqpPu2moE-Y11u4 (https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3080-vs-AMD-RX-6900-XT/4080vs4091?fbclid=IwAR3un0OYcvNSDpm5CuGxoPX_eEj0XtiT88ukZpTH42ZRDqpPu2moE-Y11u4)
Opinions are so divided. People with Nvidia cards tell me to wait for the 3080. People with the 6000 series AMD cards say they are thrilled with the performance and are happy they didn't wait for a Nvidia card.
3rd option: go with the RX 6900 XT for now, pick up a 3080 or 3090 later when they are available, and then give me sell the RX 6900 XT? :-\
My system FINALLY shipped today. They put the 6900XT into the system, which is the top of the line AMD GFX card. The upgrade was free of charge. Still no 3080s in stock and I just didn't want to wait anymore. The rig was ordered on January 18th.
Anyway....fingers crossed. Hope I made the right decision. So, the final specs are:
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Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 9 5900X 3.7GHz 12-Core
Motherboard: MSI B550-A PRO - ATX
Memory: G.SKILL Z Trident Total 64 GB Dual Channel Memory
Graphics Card:AMD Radeon™ RX 6900 XT, 16GB of dedicated GDDR6
Operating System Storage: 1TB Patriot P300 PCIe 4.0 M.2 NVMe
CPU Liquid Cooling: CLX Quench 240 Closed Liquid Cooler
Secondary Storage: 4TB 3.5in Seagate Barracuda HDD
Chassis Selection: Set Eclipse P400S Mid Tower Black/Red
Chassis Fans: CLX Red Ring Fan
Power Supply: EVGA 850 B3 - 80+ Bronze 850W
6900XT...noice.
Quote from: Gusington on March 09, 2021, 08:54:09 PM
6900XT...noice.
This is my first AMD rig in literally like 15+ years. I'm very nervous. :-\
I didn't think you knew the meaning of the word nervous.
Really stupid question...
When you get a new rig, do you always use the power cable that is supplied with the new system, or do you sometimes just stick with the old one that you have been using? They all look identical and I have dozens of them laying around. I'm asking only because I'm lazy. With the new rig coming, I'm going to have to rotate a few systems and with all my peripherals and devices, there are a crap load of wires and cords. Having one or two less to worry about will be of some consolation.
I'd go with the power cord that comes with the new rig, especially if the PS in the new rig is different than the old rig. Just a quick look on Amazon shows that PSU power cords come in different gauges, so I'd stick with the one shipped with the new rig.
Yeah I go with what comes with the newest rig too. That said, all of my old computers are in use with my daughters, so I have less extra cables and stuff lying around.
New rig is here and plugged in. So far, so good. I have my work cut out for me. So much crap to install and devices to configure.
God damn it. Having problems.
All seemed to be running well. However, after installing DCS world and attempting to run it, I got a green screen of death. Since then, when I reboot the computer, the fans spin and all the internal lights are active, including fan lights, GFX card lights and RAM stick lights. However, the monitor is receiving no signal. It is almost as if the system is in sleep mode, but I do see the hard drive light on the tower flashing on occasion. I wonder if the 850w power supply is not enough for the 6900XT? What else could be causing this problem. I am unable to do anything with this system at the moment. :'( :-\ :-[ :hide: :pullhair:
Is the monitor new too? If not, do you have a spare cord?
Quote from: Gusington on March 12, 2021, 09:11:14 PM
Is the monitor new too? If not, do you have a spare cord?
No. Its definitely not a monitor problem. I have two monitors and neither is getting a signal.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 12, 2021, 05:35:39 PM
God damn it. Having problems.
What a pisser. Bit of a long shot, but how about re-seating the GPU and RAM?
Quote from: Father Ted on March 13, 2021, 04:44:48 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 12, 2021, 05:35:39 PM
God damn it. Having problems.
What a pisser. Bit of a long shot, but how about re-seating the GPU and RAM?
Yes. I will do this, but want to wait for customer service so I dont void the warranty.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 12, 2021, 05:35:39 PM
God damn it. Having problems.
All seemed to be running well. However, after installing DCS world and attempting to run it, I got a green screen of death. Since then, when I reboot the computer, the fans spin and all the internal lights are active, including fan lights, GFX card lights and RAM stick lights. However, the monitor is receiving no signal. It is almost as if the system is in sleep mode, but I do see the hard drive light on the tower flashing on occasion. I wonder if the 850w power supply is not enough for the 6900XT? What else could be causing this problem. I am unable to do anything with this system at the moment. :'( :-\ :-[ :hide: :pullhair:
Do you hear any beeps when you boot the PC? The motherboard will beep an error code if, for example, the memory is unseated.
Also, are your monitors in sleep mode? I've read of people having problems booting with a 6900XT if the monitor has gone into sleep mode. Try pressing the monitor button to make sure it is awake and then boot the PC. Apparently a problem especially with Samsung monitors.
No beeps. No sounds. No indication that anything is wrong other than a black screen. I'll check the sleep mode issue.
If you have two monitors connected, try unplugging one and see if you can get one working and then go from there.
It could be a problem with the GPU, but there are a lot of reports of monitors being the problem with this card. The card apparently goes into sleep mode if it doesn't quickly detect an active monitor. Anything that interrupts or interferes with the connection to the monitor can result in the GPU going to sleep.
Some other ideas:
Some people report that switching the cable to a different port on the monitor or GPU worked.
Or switching from Display Port to HDMI (or vice versa).
Or unplugging the power cord on the monitor, letting it power down for a minute, plugging it back in and then rebooting the PC.
Or trying a new DP or HDMI cable.
If you get booted again, take a look at the Freesync settings in the Radeon software. Some have reported that setting Feesync to "Standard" fixes the problem.
^thanks. I've tried most of that. One monitor, different ports, etc. I really don't think its monitor related, but I'll keep trying.
So this morning I got it to actually boot up. However, in short order, the screen would go glitchy and reboot. This happened several times. I'm now in the blue screen windows repair menu, but I don't want to do anything without talking to customer support. For instance, I can restore the system and reinstall windows, but if it reboots in the middle of that, I'll be really screwed.
That's so frustrating. And working with customer support is the best approach. The worst case scenario of having to return the computer is better than the worser case of voiding your warranty. Good luck.
Does the cpu have on board video or do you have a spare vid card you can try swapping?
Wondering if you have a dud vid card since the system died when trying to run DCS.
If you can get the system to at least run with one of the above options then that hopefully isolates to issue to vid card.
I got into safe mode and am running windows updates to see if that makes a difference. Maybe there was a driver problem.
Does the 6900XT require a secondary cable to the PSU?
According to the AMD website (https://www.amd.com/en/products/graphics/amd-radeon-rx-6900-xt) an 850W PSU is the minimum required.
"Minimum PSU Recommendation 850 W"
I've seen DIYers opine that two separate cables is preferable with any high-end GPU. But I can't vouch for that, and I expect far more PCs are built with one split cable than with two separate ones. But if you have access to a second cable, it probably couldn't hurt to try.
Take a look here:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1252944-1-psu-cable-to-power-3090/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7KIVI_hJg
Quote from: Queeg on March 13, 2021, 12:48:21 PM
I've seen DIYers opine that two separate cables is preferable with any high-end GPU. But I can't vouch for that, and I expect far more PCs are built with one split cable than with two separate ones. But if you have access to a second cable, it probably couldn't hurt to try.
Take a look here:
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1252944-1-psu-cable-to-power-3090/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL7KIVI_hJg
Looks like two separate cables to me.
This was posted just today. A primer on PSUs.
Note the at the end he cautions against mixing cables between different PSU brands - can be a hazard. So if you have to add a cable, you should try to match to the PSU brand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUh2EZzJZRU
Well, spent about two hours on the phone with tech support today. It's almost definitely a GPU issue... Hardware, software or both. There are also corrupted windows files somewhere. To make a long story short, I'm sending the whole tower back for a replacement GPU and reinstallation of windows and drivers.
I'm am so sorry. Disappointment is not adequate to cover what this sort of thing causes to well up in one's soul.
That really sucks. Good luck with the 2nd try.
Rig came back to me today. I don't want to jinx it, but so far it seems to working as intended. I've plugged in most of my peripherals and DCS is quietly downloading and installing.
Was off to a bumpy start though. When I opened the box, the GPU had dislodged during shipping. :o
Maybe it heard what happened to the previous GPU and was trying to escape!
Having a new toy not work is one of the worst experiences in tech buying. Except maybe having it crash shortly after finishing setting up everything just the way you want it.
Quote from: bobarossa on March 31, 2021, 11:17:13 AM
Having a new toy not work is one of the worst experiences in tech buying. Except maybe having it crash shortly after finishing setting up everything just the way you want it.
I'm not even going to touch this, and you should be banned for even posting such a heinous possibility! :crazy2: