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Offline eyebiter

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« on: May 06, 2012, 05:29:47 PM »
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That's...interesting, to say the least.  Hopefully the Air Force takes a more serious look at the problem. 

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We've been making planes that fly above fresh air since the Second World War.

I know this is a complicated piece of machinery but if it's going to be a manned aircraft, one would think that getting the oxygen system right would have been a priority when the blueprints were first drawn up.

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Forget about doing it right the first time, this has been a problem for 2 years and the AF and Lockheed Martin still aren't sure what the problem is.

After investigating one F-22 crash, the AF concluded it was pilot error because the pilot lost control of the aircraft after trying to activate the emergency O2 system when the main system failed.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/f-22-crash/?utm_source=Contextly&utm_medium=RelatedLinks&utm_campaign=Previous
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Forget about doing it right the first time, this has been a problem for 2 years and the AF and Lockheed Martin still aren't sure what the problem is.

After investigating one F-22 crash, the AF concluded it was pilot error because the pilot lost control of the aircraft after trying to activate the emergency O2 system when the main system failed.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/12/f-22-crash/?utm_source=Contextly&utm_medium=RelatedLinks&utm_campaign=Previous

Pilot error? Seriously?

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Yeah, really? If I were that guy's family I'd be incoherent with rage after reading these stories. At the very least the AF could make a public statement that they are 'revisiting' their original conclusion as to the 'pilot error' finding.
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Yeah, really? If I were that guy's family I'd be incoherent with rage after reading these stories. At the very least the AF could make a public statement that they are 'revisiting' their original conclusion as to the 'pilot error' finding.

Agreed. It takes a certain kind of jai ne se quoi to be so corrupt and stupid as to build a bad system and then blame the user when it kills them.

We need a word for that in English. Maybe it's "fucktard."

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I'm not a big fan of any words ending in -tard, excepting maybe Leotard. And then it would depend on who was wearing it...

I propose we adopt 'Bureaufucker' instead. ;)
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I'm not a big fan of any words ending in -tard, excepting maybe Leotard. And then it would depend on who was wearing it...

I propose we adopt 'Bureaufucker' instead. ;)

Works for me.

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Yeah, really? If I were that guy's family I'd be incoherent with rage after reading these stories. At the very least the AF could make a public statement that they are 'revisiting' their original conclusion as to the 'pilot error' finding.

Agreed. It takes a certain kind of jai ne se quoi to be so corrupt and stupid as to build a bad system and then blame the user when it kills them.

We need a word for that in English. Maybe it's "fucktard."

Politics and defence systems/equipment aquisitions.... sometimes you don't need an enemy to see your own men die

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Yeah - thank goodness we got rid of those last year ! ;)