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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #30 on: March 11, 2018, 06:28:43 PM »
I've made "some" progress. As it turns out, I was successful in bringing the WRkrn.sys file over to the system through Ubuntu. I had renamed the file as some places on the web had suggested. However, by restoring it to its original name, I am now able to get past the blue screen. I can load the Bios menu, but it still doesn't want to boot normally and its obvious that something is still severely nerfed. I think at this point I'm really going to make an effort to let it rest until a professional can look at it. I'm at least a little more confident that some of the data can be saved by someone who knows what they are doing.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #31 on: March 13, 2018, 04:42:43 AM »
I brought both of my ailing rigs into a local professional. My main gaming rig was unsalvageable. Had to wipe the C: drive and reload windows. Itís up and running now. Iím hesitant to declare it totally cured since itís performance is still a little suspect, but it could be loading drivers and stuff still. I will say that steam is an extraordinary piece of software. I had steam installed on the C: with my library installed on my E: drive. Was certain Iíd have to reinstall everything. Well, reinstalled steam on the C: drive, directed it to my library and it detected everything. I hope I donít need to install all of my non steam stuff though...weíll see.

I left the other rig with the guy overnight. Weíll see what he can accomplish.

Although I was able to recover the main system, Iím left feeling uncomfortable over not knowing what caused the corruption. I hope it doesnít happen again.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #32 on: March 15, 2018, 07:38:16 AM »
The main rig is still running, but I'm still having some issues with it. Some routine activities take much longer than they should and the SSD just seems to be working overtime. I also have periodic lock-ups that cause a hard reboot. I'm thinking I'm just going to swap the drive, even though I've already gone through the hassle of reinstalling much of what I lost from the drive wipe.

The back-up rig is also up and running, but the issue on that system was definitely a failure of the SATA drive. I had to replace it with a new one and I added an SSD for the boot drive. I haven't picked it up yet, but the tech says its running very fast.

So, I've been through a lot with these rigs over the last few weeks but I think I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm glad I have this local tech on speed dial now. Now when i have a catastrophic failure, I will call him before buying a new system.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #33 on: March 15, 2018, 12:08:59 PM »
Good news mate! 

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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #34 on: March 15, 2018, 06:16:38 PM »
The main rig is still running, but I'm still having some issues with it. Some routine activities take much longer than they should and the SSD just seems to be working overtime. I also have periodic lock-ups that cause a hard reboot. I'm thinking I'm just going to swap the drive, even though I've already gone through the hassle of reinstalling much of what I lost from the drive wipe....

I have a couple of thoughts. First of all, if your C: drive on your main rig wasn't reformatted before the operating system was reinstalled, there might have been something nasty left on it. Also if the drive wasn't reformatted, I am wondering if the DRM from one or more of the games you installed might be the culprit(s); either alone or in conjunction with your Anti-virus software. Some DRM isn't removed even if the game that required it has been uninstalled. :-\

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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #35 on: March 16, 2018, 05:18:23 AM »
Interesting....I would think it was reformatted because it wiped everything on the C:, not just the windows install. Iíll ask the tech.

In searching google, itís not an unheard of issue with windows.

Also, steam is sometimes working peculiarly...downloads such as game updates will cause significant activity and large quantities of data appear to be downloading without there being any indication that it is related to a game.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #36 on: March 19, 2018, 09:37:55 AM »
FINALLY have my main machine repaired. Although we initially did a wipe of the C: and reinstalled windows, it was clear early on that this did not solve the problem. In looking deeper, there were many bad blocks on the drive, so it was obvious that the SSD was simply dying. I had to replace it. Now, the machine is running like new. I'm very happy, but its going to take awhile to get everything loaded and installed the way I like. Although the data drive I use is still good, most of the registries were on the c: so much of what I had installed no longer functions.

With respect to the other machine that had crashed, that one is now up and running like new too. I picked up a KVM switch so I can run it and the replacement rig I had purchased together off of the same monitor, keyboard and mouse. Its a pretty sick set up now. I've got three pretty powerful rigs up and running. 
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2018, 10:11:13 AM »
How old was the SSD? I know that they are limited by the number of read/write cycles. I really do need to make backups of all my drives.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2018, 10:21:56 AM »
How old was the SSD? I know that they are limited by the number of read/write cycles. I really do need to make backups of all my drives.

it wasn't that old. I'm a little surprised it died so quickly. Perhaps 2-1/2 to 3 years old, at most. The annoying thing is that SSD scanning tools indicated it was a healthy drive. Clearly, it was not.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2018, 10:30:39 AM »
Also, steam is sometimes working peculiarly...downloads such as game updates will cause significant activity and large quantities of data appear to be downloading without there being any indication that it is related to a game.

I've seen that recently myself on my rig, although mousing over the Steam icon on the system tray reveals that it's updating, say, ARK for example. But it doesn't list on the download screen per se -- it shows activity across the top tracker, but not why the activity.

This suggests something has gone wrong in the Steam coding. I don't recall seeing an update for the Steam program itself recently before this started happening, tho.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2018, 10:34:40 AM »
Sometimes disk activity continues for a while after Steam finished downloading something.  I believe it's normal - probably unpacking files or something.  It happens on Linux too.

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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2018, 10:36:14 AM »
How old was the SSD? I know that they are limited by the number of read/write cycles. I really do need to make backups of all my drives.

it wasn't that old. I'm a little surprised it died so quickly. Perhaps 2-1/2 to 3 years old, at most. The annoying thing is that SSD scanning tools indicated it was a healthy drive. Clearly, it was not.


Has your system (Win10) been auto-defragging the SSD? Or have you been doing that manually on a regular basis?

That will quickly generate bad sectors on an SSD. I defrag mine once a year on general principle (since things do get scattered around on it naturally, and I can't bring myself to trust that the system architecture will safely access the data at the same efficiency when it's so scattered), but I'm leery about doing even that.

This is also why for my main game/data storage I use a proper disc HD: I can dang well defrag it every month or so and not worry. On a very high octane game or two I'll install it on my SSD with the expectation I'll delete it relatively soon -- I've got KC:Deliverance on it now, and I think something else.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2018, 10:38:15 AM »
Sometimes disk activity continues for a while after Steam finished downloading something.  I believe it's normal - probably unpacking files or something.  It happens on Linux too.

True, but when it's unpacking or pre-allocating, the Steam dl list says what it's doing, and (to some extent) what it has done (i.e. it lists that it's unpacking "X" which implies it has finished downloading "X").

This new activity I'm talking about doesn't show up as listed on the Steam dl window at all. The activity tracker across the top will show it, but it won't list what it's doing. I only know it's downloading an update for a game because of the mouseover on the systemtray icon. (...or, heck, that's what it says it's doing, which might be a lie. So I don't know for sure.)
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
« Reply #43 on: March 19, 2018, 11:43:49 AM »
How old was the SSD? I know that they are limited by the number of read/write cycles. I really do need to make backups of all my drives.

it wasn't that old. I'm a little surprised it died so quickly. Perhaps 2-1/2 to 3 years old, at most. The annoying thing is that SSD scanning tools indicated it was a healthy drive. Clearly, it was not.


Has your system (Win10) been auto-defragging the SSD? Or have you been doing that manually on a regular basis?

That will quickly generate bad sectors on an SSD. I defrag mine once a year on general principle (since things do get scattered around on it naturally, and I can't bring myself to trust that the system architecture will safely access the data at the same efficiency when it's so scattered), but I'm leery about doing even that.

This is also why for my main game/data storage I use a proper disc HD: I can dang well defrag it every month or so and not worry. On a very high octane game or two I'll install it on my SSD with the expectation I'll delete it relatively soon -- I've got KC:Deliverance on it now, and I think something else.

Interesting post. I'm glad you mentioned something because I believe my system is set to auto defrag and it does do it fairly regularly. I will remedy this immediately.
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Re: I'm finally convinced...
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