Started by ArizonaTank, November 26, 2021, 04:54:38 PM
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Quote from: Gusington on January 27, 2023, 11:36:08 PMApropos of nothing, it looks like Turkey (and Erdogan in particular) is continuing to be a thorn in the side of the West, blocking Sweden's entry into NATO and delaying Finland's entry for as long as possible :/
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on January 27, 2023, 11:01:14 PMI doubt many of us knew much about the state of readiness of the Ukrainian armed forces 12 months ago, and while we all knew that the Russian army had problems, I'm not sure that any of us imagined how thoroughly dysfunctional the entire command structure would prove itself when finally tested.Fast-forward today, and I'm a bit more concerned. The longer this war goes on, the more likely it is that the Russians will figure out how to fight a war. The Russian definition of "winning" never involved taking fewer casualties; it just involved crushing the enemy's will to fight and occupying their land.I'm leery of overestimating the Russian leadership again soon. The notion that the Russians were some sort of murderous Keystone Kops is supported by what we saw in the first part of the fighting, and it's certainly a conceit that plays to Western vanities. But if we want to go into this open-eyed, it might be worth at least entertaining a few competing narratives.I'm not saying that the Russians are winning or that they will win. I just haven't yet seen signs of an imminent Russian collapse.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on January 28, 2023, 12:31:36 PMlol @ big breakthrough. I hope they do and let the Leos fight exactly in the manner in which they were designed for. I also disagree that the russians can keep losing battle after battle. the homefront, while forced to be supportive, isnt very happy at all.
Quote from: Sir Slash on January 28, 2023, 10:16:35 PMI hear you. But if the Russkies can just pull back across the border, short of the Ukrainians invading, how can they ever win? The Russians can hang-out a while, replace their losses, and come back again and again. Star thinks the Russian people will rise-up and refuse to keep fighting but I ain't seen a lot of movement in that direction. Maybe the next guy after Putin will be better, but maybe worse. Better get a comfortable seat, this could last a while.
QuoteThis is the maximal Russian invasion plan. Western militaries' war games showed that Ukrainian forces have only minuscule chances to defeat Russian armored forces in an open battle, as Russian air supremacy will be massive. Ukraine's chance to successfully fight Russia to standstill rests on Ukraine's ability to activate, equip and disperse Ukrainian active and reserve forces quickly and effectively before Russia invades. It rests on Ukraine dispersing and camouflaging its forces to reduce the risk of losing entire battalions to Russian artillery and rocket strikes. It's rests on Ukraine's ability to deny Russia the use of its railways. It rests one Ukraine's ability to ambush, isolate and destroy Russian units in detail. It rests on Ukraine's ability to deny Russia the crossing of the Dnieper. It rests very much on the speed, amount and type of weapons the West delivers. It rests on the ability of Ukraine's population to endure in the face of Russian bombardments and sieges. And it rest above all, as Finland showed in winter of 1940–41, on the Ukrainians ability to kill Russian soldiers: 10,000 is good; 50,000 is better; 100,000 dead Russian soldiers will bring peace.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on January 28, 2023, 12:31:36 PMI also disagree that the russians can keep losing battle after battle. the homefront, while forced to be supportive, isnt very happy at all.