White smoke! a new Pope...

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mirth

#15
March 13, 2013, 05:13:10 PM
That's Pope Psycho too you.
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son_of_montfort

#16
March 13, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
Woah...

First New World Pope!

First Jesuit Pope!

Big historical moment! I can't help but be extremely excited as a historian, medievalist, and graduate of a Jesuit university!
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LongBlade

#17
March 13, 2013, 10:38:45 PM
Quote from: son_of_montfort on March 13, 2013, 10:32:28 PM
Woah...

First New World Pope!

First Jesuit Pope!

Big historical moment! I can't help but be extremely excited as a historian, medievalist, and graduate of a Jesuit university!

It's like Christmas!
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Longdan

#18
March 13, 2013, 10:42:12 PM
Jesuits scare the crap outa me.
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LongBlade

#19
March 13, 2013, 10:58:50 PM
Quote from: Longdan on March 13, 2013, 10:42:12 PM
Jesuits scare the crap outa me.

Aren't Depends covered by Canadian National Healthcare?
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

Longdan

#20
March 13, 2013, 11:55:15 PM
Jesuits aren't and health Care is a Provincial responsibility.
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Bison

#21
March 14, 2013, 07:16:11 AM
Glad to see it's still cool to mock Catholicism here.

besilarius

#22
March 14, 2013, 07:19:09 AM
The only Jesuit joke I can recall.
Three priests are playing golf, a Franciscan, a Dominican, and a Jesuit.
They are having a terrible day, the foursome before them are playing so slow, throws off their timing, the game is awful.
Back in the clubhouse they are asked how it their round was, and they all replied how bad they played, and blamed the four in front of them for playing so slowly.
Well, don't be angry with them, those four were blind golfers.
"Oh my God, " said the Franciscan.  "They were blind?"  He got on his knees and prayed for forgiveness.
The Dominican also starts to pray, "Dear God thank you so much for the gift of sight.  I am so unworthy."
The Jesuit thinks a little, "If they're blind, why don't they play at night?"
"Most gods throw dice, but Fate plays chess, and you don't find out until too late that he's been playing with two queens all along".  Terry Pratchett.

During filming of Airplane, Leslie Nielsen used a whoopee cushion to keep the cast off-balance. Hays said that Nielsen "played that thing like a maestro"

Tallulah Bankhead: "I'll come and make love to you at five o'clock. If I'm late, start without me."

"When all other trusts fail, turn to Flashman." — Abraham Lincoln.

"I have enjoyed very warm relations with my two husbands."
"With your eyes closed?"
"That helped."  Lauren Bacall

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besilarius

#23
March 14, 2013, 07:20:51 AM
The only Jesuit joke I can recall.
Three priests are playing golf, a Franciscan, a Dominican, and a Jesuit.
They are having a terrible day, the foursome before them are playing so slow, throws off their timing, the game is awful.
Back in the clubhouse they are asked how it their round was, and they all replied how bad they played, and blamed the four in front of them for playing so slowly.
Well, don't be angry with them, those four were blind golfers.
"Oh my God, " said the Franciscan.  "They were blind?"  He got on his knees and prayed for forgiveness.
The Dominican also starts to pray, "Dear God thank you so much for the gift of sight.  I am so unworthy."
The Jesuit thinks a little, "If they're blind, why don't they play at night?"
"Most gods throw dice, but Fate plays chess, and you don't find out until too late that he's been playing with two queens all along".  Terry Pratchett.

During filming of Airplane, Leslie Nielsen used a whoopee cushion to keep the cast off-balance. Hays said that Nielsen "played that thing like a maestro"

Tallulah Bankhead: "I'll come and make love to you at five o'clock. If I'm late, start without me."

"When all other trusts fail, turn to Flashman." — Abraham Lincoln.

"I have enjoyed very warm relations with my two husbands."
"With your eyes closed?"
"That helped."  Lauren Bacall

Master Chiefs are sneaky, dastardly, and snarky miscreants who thrive on the tears of Ensigns and belly dancers.   Admiral Gerry Bogan.

airboy

#24
March 14, 2013, 09:27:50 AM
I've read up on this.  Some of the mainstream media stuff is either weird or irrelevant.

1] The guy is old.  Only 2 years younger than Benedict when he was elected.

2] He is not a member of the Vatican bureauracry.

3] He has lived a relatively humble life (clothing, using public transport, flying economy, no cook)

4] He has been an outspoken advocate for the poor.

5] He has been a parish priest and a bishop overseeing parishes.  This is closer to John Paul II than Benedict.

6] He has been conservative in terms of doctrine - but all of the Cardinals are.

7] He has been willing to discipline his priests when they get out of line.  Some priests were refusing to baptise children born out of wedlock and he put a stop to that.

steve58

#25
March 14, 2013, 09:44:42 AM
^Hopefully he will do well as the Pope, he has a big job ahead of him.  One item that does concern me is that he only has one lung (removed during his teens due to an infection).  "They" are saying it shouldn't impact his duties, but I imagine that it will as he moves into his 80s...
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Longdan

#26
March 14, 2013, 10:19:50 AM
^^ I think it is a positive sign that he is not a European and specifically not Italian.  I know there has been chafing
in Italy since some think the Papacy should have returned "where it belongs".  This furthers the trend and shows
a continued awareness of the world as a dynamic place.  I personally would have rather seen a younger Pontiff
but my family are all Catholics and they seem modestly pleased with the choice.  They wanted the Canadian candidate.
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Steelgrave

#27
March 14, 2013, 10:49:37 AM
Some say that his election marks a revolt against the Curia. If so....about time.

I'm not Catholic, but much of my wife's family is. I certainly believe that they can be a very positive force in the world. But they have a lot of housecleaning to do. Here's hoping that Pope Francis carries a big broom.

LongBlade

#28
March 14, 2013, 10:52:16 AM
A humble Pope sounds like an excellent example. I don't know much about him, but the little I've heard I really like.
All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.

MikeGER

#29
March 14, 2013, 11:20:28 AM Last Edit: March 14, 2013, 11:45:45 AM by MikeGER
Its a strategic move. (heh, cardinals were kind of wargaming too  ;D ...battle for souls  ;))

In Latin America (harboring half of all Catholics !) the 'Evangelicalism' -or how its called-? American style (not our centuries old ol'school European version) is spreading through heavy mission activity and so draining more and more members from the traditional catholic population overthere.

So even in the eyes of the most Curia-leaning cardinals, a Pope Francis is the right guy to stem against massive losses there and makes a nice inpact in other (poor) places abroad from Europe too 
(while here in Europe/Germany  ppl are already pretty secular / atheistic anyway, and even catholics already demanding all kind of liberties from strict rules to get implemented. So not much to gain/preserve at this frontline ... those ppl unhappy have already steped away and only a trickle of souls may follow the 'heretic of a catholic rule free life')     
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