US Overture to Iran

[Windigo]

wont work with Israel as they have nuclear armed subs.

damn, I better get back to the work library and start reading Janes again

[LongBlade]

While our healthcare system has been melting down, our foreign policy has been quietly attempting to come to an agreement where sanctions could be lifted on Iran.

The French (of all people!1!!!1) have balked.

Negotiations among world powers to temporarily curb Iran's nuclear program appeared to stall Saturday when France questioned whether the proposal went far enough, after Israel's strong objections to such an agreement.

The concerns cast doubt about whether an agreement can be reached during the current round of negotiations in Geneva.

A Western diplomat said a new round would be needed to agree on all points of a temporary deal that would to lead to a comprehensive agreement ensuring that Tehran's nuclear work remains peaceful.

source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/11/09/world-powers-set-for-new-round-iran-nuke-talks/

[MetalDog]

The only way this works is if there is a fail safe way by outsiders to determine and enforce Iran's nuclear use for peaceful purposes.  Any ideas what that would look like?  It would have to be automatic, not some governing council or watchdog agency.

[LongBlade]

Wow. Never saw this coming  ::)

Even before the nuclear negotiations between Iran and the 5+1 world powers ended in Geneva early Sunday with no deal, an Iranian general lashed out at America Saturday and warned both the U.S. and Israel that they will be attacked.

According to Fars News Agency, the regime's outlet run by the Revolutionary Guards, Gen. Massoud Jazayeri, deputy chief of staff of Iran's armed forces, said "America's interests and all of Israel are within the range of the Islamic Republic and there is not the slightest doubt among Iran's armed forces to confront the American government and the Zionists (Israel)."

Jazayeri said Israel is pulling the strings of Washington and "the American government is one of the most hated and evil governments in the world."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/09/iran-general-no-doubt-israel-and-america-will-be-attacked/#ixzz2kIduMBtO

[Staggerwing]

I really hate to see it come to this but it's time to 'unfriend' that guy. I know it's harsh but what else can we do at this point?

[GDS_Starfury]

perhaps its for mullah consumption more so then an actual diplomatic statement.

[LongBlade]

perhaps its for mullah consumption more so then an actual diplomatic statement.

Does it really matter?

The Arabs do that all the time with the Palestinians. How's that working out?

[Windigo]

Wow. Never saw this coming  ::)

Even before the nuclear negotiations between Iran and the 5+1 world powers ended in Geneva early Sunday with no deal, an Iranian general lashed out at America Saturday and warned both the U.S. and Israel that they will be attacked.

According to Fars News Agency, the regime's outlet run by the Revolutionary Guards, Gen. Massoud Jazayeri, deputy chief of staff of Iran's armed forces, said "America's interests and all of Israel are within the range of the Islamic Republic and there is not the slightest doubt among Iran's armed forces to confront the American government and the Zionists (Israel)."

Jazayeri said Israel is pulling the strings of Washington and "the American government is one of the most hated and evil governments in the world."

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/11/09/iran-general-no-doubt-israel-and-america-will-be-attacked/#ixzz2kIduMBtO

guy must of wanted an iPod for Christmas....

[Dolan50]

the Daily Caller is a right-wing rag run by Fox News host Tucker Carlson.

I'll believe this story once a reputable and ethical news source runs it.

[Dolan50]

Iran backed out of nuclear deal - John Kerry
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24895911

"US Secretary of State John Kerry has said Iran backed out of a deal on its nuclear programme during talks with world powers in Geneva on Saturday.

Amid reports that France's reservations scuppered an agreement, Mr Kerry told reporters in Abu Dhabi: "The French signed off on it; we signed off on it."

Iran had been unable to accept the deal "at that particular moment", he added.

Mr Kerry said he hoped in the next few months they could "find an agreement that meets everyone's standards".

Representatives from Iran and the so-called P5+1 - the US, UK, France, Russia and China plus Germany - will meet again on 20 November."


There has been a denial that the Western camp was divided, not least from the US Secretary of State John Kerry himself.

Speaking in the UAE, he noted that France was as much on board as the other Western players. It was Iran, he said, that "couldn't take it at that particular moment".

Mark Hibbs, a Berlin-based nuclear expert, says that might be a diplomatic way of minimising the tensions in the Western camp.

However, he believes the outcome in Geneva was by no means a fiasco. Not only the French, but others in the Western camp, were uneasy at the sudden breakneck pace of the talks.

As Mr Hibbs puts it: "Some of the Europeans were concerned that Washington was moving forward at a pace with which they were not comfortable."

[Dolan50]

Iranian deputy industry minister shot dead.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24892869

"An unknown attacker has shot dead Iran's deputy industry minister.

Safdar Rahmatabadi was driving in Tehran's Sabalan Square late on Sunday when he was shot once in the head and once in the chest, the state news agency IRNA reported.

A police officer told the agency that the attacker appeared to have been inside Mr Rahmatabadi's vehicle and spoke to him before opening fire.

There was no speculation as to why the deputy minister was targeted.

Police said they had begun an investigation. No group immediately claimed responsibility for the attack.

Assassinations of officials are not unheard of in Iran, in particular scientists connected with the country's nuclear programme. In January 2012 a car bomb killed university lecturer Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan, who also worked at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility."

[JasonPratt]

I'll believe this story once a reputable and ethical news source runs it.

Does Fars count? http://farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=13920818000226

(Granted, I can't read any form of Arabic; this could be about some general's plans to use his troops to build dams and other non-nuclear national infrastructure projects, for all I know...)

[LongBlade]

Iranian deputy industry minister shot dead.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24892869

"An unknown attacker has shot dead Iran's deputy industry minister.

Safdar Rahmatabadi was driving in Tehran's Sabalan Square late on Sunday when he was shot once in the head and once in the chest, the state news agency IRNA reported.

A police officer told the agency that the attacker appeared to have been inside Mr Rahmatabadi's vehicle and spoke to him before opening fire.

There was no speculation as to why the deputy minister was targeted.

Police said they had begun an investigation. No group immediately claimed responsibility for the attack.

Assassinations of officials are not unheard of in Iran, in particular scientists connected with the country's nuclear programme. In January 2012 a car bomb killed university lecturer Mostafa Ahmadi-Roshan, who also worked at the Natanz uranium enrichment facility."

I saw that yesterday on either Fox or DailyCaller.com. Of course I knew it was bogus instantly.  ::)

[Dolan50]

You can push the rights agenda all you like!

But don't expect me to swallow any of the garbage that these yellow journalist are selling without looking deeper into the story.

Fox isn't an ethical news source and as far as I'm concerned the Daily Caller is nothing more than the right-wings answer to the lefts Huffington post.

I'm neither Right or Left or Demo or Repub. and consider the source before I come to my own conclusions.

[LongBlade]

I generally stick to my own agenda  8)