https://community.battlefront.com/topic/138362-and-now/
:o :o :o
I knew a big announcement was coming. Let's hope we won't have too long to wait.
Hmm. New module for SF2/Black Sea? Or a new game altogether? Maybe Combat Mission: 1984 with a cameo by Gal Gadot? :D
Cold war combat mission?
Quote from: al_infierno on February 15, 2021, 11:16:47 PM
Hmm. New module for SF2/Black Sea? Or a new game altogether? Maybe Combat Mission: 1984 with a cameo by Gal Gadot? :D
My hunch is totally new series.
A Combat Mission: Yom Kippur War would be to die for. :dreamer:
Classic BFC. After a long period of dormancy they finally announce pre-orders on the long-promised Eastern Front module and then without actually releasing anything they throw out this random teaser into the ether with stuff completely out of left field.
Like, just tell us what you're working on and when we might expect to have it. That's really all people want to know.
Having just sent in my money for the East Front module preorder, this really just says to me that module was never the priority.
The smart play would have been to release Fire and Rubble first, IMO.
Unless this is just a distraction around another delay to Fire and Rubble.
Hi mom.
Quote from: Destraex on February 15, 2021, 11:17:36 PM
Cold war combat mission?
1985 central front. That would be a dream.
Looks like cluster munitions in the picture. DIPCM - from later posts this is definitely CM Cold war.
Still not to get too excited - it'll be 2 years at least before we see anything. Unless this is a partnership with Matrix and they have extra resources to throw at it.
Apparently it is 1979-1982 around and including the Fulda Gap.
It says US, but I hope we can rummage around in Leopards at least with the first module.
Instant buy for me.
Tuesday February 16th, Slitherine will show the game for the first time during a special Twitch Live: https://www.twitch.tv/slitherinegroup (https://www.twitch.tv/slitherinegroup)
Looks like it is at 12:00pm EST.
Quote from: Zulu1966 on February 16, 2021, 04:38:59 AM
1985 central front. That would be a dream.
It opens the door to a lot of possibilities - especially once the West Germans, Canadian, Brits and French are included. Which we all know will be spread out over a couple of modules. Would also be nice to see East Germans, Czechs, Poles and whomever else is in the lineup in the east.
Would be fun to see the Operation Flashpoint islands done in CM form - I doubt BFC could do it without running into IP problems, but I am sure there are bright boys in the community thinking about it as we speak.
The Canadian Army had a training manual which was more novel than training guide, with distinct scenarios that would be a perfect source for Canadian content. Unless BFC has really missed the boat, they're probably looking at that as well.
Lots of potential content, but the stuff that people really want to see - Team Yankee, etc. - probably belongs to someone else as far as IP goes.
Here are our pages for the game:
https://www.battlefront.com/cold-war/cmcw-base-game/
Expected release in April 2021. Yes, it is that far along.
Here is a link to the TO&E -
https://www.battlefront.com/cold-war/cmcw-base-game/?tab=toe (https://www.battlefront.com/cold-war/cmcw-base-game/?tab=toe)
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 16, 2021, 10:30:54 AM
Here is a link to the TO&E -
https://www.battlefront.com/cold-war/cmcw-base-game/?tab=toe (https://www.battlefront.com/cold-war/cmcw-base-game/?tab=toe)
I'll hold off until the NATO module is announced in hopes of bundling it with the main game.
I finally get to show this off!
So much opportunity for "BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRT!"
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 16, 2021, 11:02:49 AM
So much opportunity for "BUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRT!"
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRT followed by some air delivered cluster bombs! All from the same aircraft too!
It's a well-put together video, but the use of 1980s VCR technology is kind of a hilarious reminder of CM's aging graphics....
Though now that I think of it, could be interesting to see M-1 Tank Platoon scenarios rendered in CM. At least that way the graphics are a step up....
(https://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/401122-m1-tank-platoon-dos-screenshot-mapboard-with-vehicle-data.png)
Quote from: Michael Dorosh on February 16, 2021, 11:48:12 AM
At least that way the graphics are a step up....
Ouch!
That screenshot brings back so many wonderful memories.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 16, 2021, 11:52:29 AM
That screenshot brings back so many wonderful memories.
Definitely. It's funny, despite being a fictional setting, there is a ton of content already out there which scenario designers can draw on for inspiration.
I still rate M-1 Tank Platoon's campaign system as one of the most fun I've ever played, and it didn't even have a strategic map the way Close Combat did.
I want this game NOW. Why do I have to wait? FEED THE NEED!
This looks like a Day 1 buy for me as well.
Quote from: Elvis on February 16, 2021, 10:29:13 AM
Here are our pages for the game:
https://www.battlefront.com/cold-war/cmcw-base-game/
Expected release in April 2021. Yes, it is that far along.
Yes but that still really means 2022 :) just kidding.... \m/
All hail forward Battlefront progress!! :notworthy:
Some screenshot goodness!
(https://i.imgur.com/0BLVatv.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/DtGIYPF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lU2Ax3V.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/QTLByFZ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/jWtH3n9.jpg)
CMCW also has a campaign and scenarios set at the NTC. Very, very cool. This title is probably my favorite out of all the CM titles. With all the brush wars etc. and the CM modding community the possibilities for this title are very exciting.
This does look pretty cool. The option of '79 vs '82 is cool too, will make for some interesting engagements. I wonder how long it'll take until it's in our hands.
Very cool and totally unexpected. :clap:
I hope Engine 5 will give the series a graphical touch up, however. It's beginning to show its age rather glaringly.
I don't feel flashy graphics are what's needed, just higher detailed textures, more detailed terrain mesh and improved 3D models.
Quote from: Skoop on February 16, 2021, 04:37:58 PM
This does look pretty cool. The option of '79 vs '82 is cool too, will make for some interesting engagements. I wonder how long it'll take until it's in our hands.
Initial estimate is April 2021
Quote from: Skoop on February 16, 2021, 04:37:58 PM
This does look pretty cool. The option of '79 vs '82 is cool too, will make for some interesting engagements. I wonder how long it'll take until it's in our hands.
April 2021 is the official release window!
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 16, 2021, 04:41:28 PM
Very cool and totally unexpected. :clap:
I hope Engine 5 will give the series a graphical touch up, however. It's beginning to show its age rather glaringly.
I don't feel flashy graphics are what's needed, just higher detailed textures, more detailed terrain mesh and improved 3D models.
That would certainly be nice. I have no idea what they have in store for Engine 5. A graphical touch-up, or maybe just a few new animations and higher res ground textures would go a long way to giving the games a nice facelift. We can certainly hope.
I don't know whether combat missions maps would be large enough to suspend my disbelief in cold war scenarios. I guess I am just used to games like wargame: red dragon, I know it's not a proper wargame but it has just about as many stats and realistic features as we all wanted back in the 90s. Armored Brigade and those sort of games. The maps are huge and you feel like the size of the engagements that the fulda gap would probably have.
Some things I would love updated:
- Trenches that are below ground
- Briefing screens that adjust according to your screen resolution
- Curved surfaces such as properly cornered roads
- Co-op or at least more than two player multiplayer. (I know about the work arounds)
- Do Helicopters and aircraft appear on map now when called? Are the maps still too small for this?
- Will it be on steam off the bat?
Quote from: Destraex on February 16, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
I don't know whether combat missions maps would be large enough to suspend my disbelief in cold war scenarios. I guess I am just used to games like wargame: red dragon, I know it's not a proper wargame but it has just about as many stats and realistic features as we all wanted back in the 90s. Armored Brigade and those sort of games. The maps are huge and you feel like the size of the engagements that the fulda gap would probably have.
Some things I would love updated:
- Trenches that are below ground
- Briefing screens that adjust according to your screen resolution
- Curved surfaces such as properly cornered roads
- Co-op or at least more than two player multiplayer. (I know about the work arounds)
- Do Helicopters and aircraft appear on map now when called? Are the maps still too small for this?
- Will it be on steam off the bat?
Number one on my list would be the ability to place water at different elevations.
Quote from: Destraex on February 16, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
I don't know whether combat missions maps would be large enough to suspend my disbelief in cold war scenarios. I guess I am just used to games like wargame: red dragon, I know it's not a proper wargame but it has just about as many stats and realistic features as we all wanted back in the 90s. Armored Brigade and those sort of games. The maps are huge and you feel like the size of the engagements that the fulda gap would probably have.
Some things I would love updated:
- Trenches that are below ground
- Briefing screens that adjust according to your screen resolution
- Curved surfaces such as properly cornered roads
- Co-op or at least more than two player multiplayer. (I know about the work arounds)
- Do Helicopters and aircraft appear on map now when called? Are the maps still too small for this?
- Will it be on steam off the bat?
The campaigns in the game really give you a sense of scale and maneuver, at least to me. And by maneuver I mean tactical maneuver, not road marching for 25km before hitting the line of departure. I understand the knife fight in a phonebooth opinion with the modern CM titles, but I do think that this title does a good job of alleviating that to a great degree. A lot of the battles are pretty large.
It will be on Steam off the bat upon release.
Quote from: Destraex on February 16, 2021, 05:17:14 PM
- Will it be on steam off the bat?
Yes, and like to other 2 Combat Mission games on Steam, if you have the Battlefront version you'll also be able to get a Steam key at no additional charge.
Against my better judgment, I decided to preorder this. I'll be genuinely shocked if it actually arrives in April, but I've been wrong before, so I've been told. :buck2:
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 15, 2021, 11:45:18 PM
A Combat Mission: Yom Kippur War would be to die for. :dreamer:
Combat Mission: Villers-Bretonneux 1918
Now THAT would be to die for!
Me too :nerd:
It looks like a CMx2 mod.
Is there anything actually new about this release?
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 20, 2021, 07:57:55 PM
It looks like a CMx2 mod.
Is there anything actually new about this release?
Do you mean aside from the completely new setting and a TO&E for 1979-82?
Quote from: al_infierno on February 20, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
Do you mean aside from the completely new setting and a TO&E for 1979-82?
Yes. Is there anything innovative with this release?
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 20, 2021, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 20, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
Do you mean aside from the completely new setting and a TO&E for 1979-82?
Yes. Is there anything innovative with this release?
Sorry, Apocalypse...there is no live fire and you cannot actually be killed by playing. It is going to disappoint your high expectations for realism. :crazy2:
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 20, 2021, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 20, 2021, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 20, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
Do you mean aside from the completely new setting and a TO&E for 1979-82?
Yes. Is there anything innovative with this release?
Sorry, Apocalypse...there is no live fire and you cannot actually be killed by playing. It is going to disappoint your high expectations for realism. :crazy2:
It's a combat mission game, so my expectations are already low.
A map that is bigger than the max effective range of an M829 round would be a great start.
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 20, 2021, 09:17:13 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 20, 2021, 09:12:35 PM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 20, 2021, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 20, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
Do you mean aside from the completely new setting and a TO&E for 1979-82?
Yes. Is there anything innovative with this release?
Sorry, Apocalypse...there is no live fire and you cannot actually be killed by playing. It is going to disappoint your high expectations for realism. :crazy2:
It's a combat mission game, so my expectations are already low.
A map that is bigger than the max effective range of an M829 round would be a great start.
Yeah. I know what your beefs are with game. They're fair, but the system is never going to change in that way.
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 20, 2021, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 20, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
Do you mean aside from the completely new setting and a TO&E for 1979-82?
Yes. Is there anything innovative with this release?
DPICM/cluster munitions for artillery and aircraft respectively comes to mind. Its been a requested feature for a long time and I'm glad we are finally getting it.
There are a bunch of new vehicles unique to Combat Mission, such as the M60 series, the T-64 series and the T-80 series tanks, plus some new variants of the M113. There is also the M48 Chaparral which is cool.
As others have mentioned, it takes place in the Cold War, 1979-1982 which is also unique, but can be understandably underwhelming for someone not interested in that time period. I personally am extremely interested in the time period, and I also really like Combat Mission, so I am a bit biased.
That said, I definitely get your complaints. I share them to a degree as well. I wish we could have essentially double the map size (and double the optimization to boot) as well as a few other quality of life improvements to reduce the admin burden on the player. The biggest thing I am hoping for is an optimization improvement. They have announced that there will be an engine 5 upgrade. No details on that yet, but I really hope at least part of it includes optimization.
This still hurts my eyes after over 10yrs... I am still using a 1080 screen as well. My previous of a different wider resolution died and to keep my FPS up in high end games I kept the same res. I should go up to a 1440 res monitor but I think that would make the text even smaller.
(https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5264/5656910874_527097caaa_b.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/dELidaW.png)
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 20, 2021, 09:12:35 PM
Sorry, Apocalypse...there is no live fire and you cannot actually be killed by playing. It is going to disappoint your high expectations for realism. :crazy2:
This is my favorite comment in this thread. :2funny:
Quote from: IICptMillerII on February 21, 2021, 12:10:50 AM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 20, 2021, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 20, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
Do you mean aside from the completely new setting and a TO&E for 1979-82?
Yes. Is there anything innovative with this release?
DPICM/cluster munitions for artillery and aircraft respectively comes to mind. Its been a requested feature for a long time and I'm glad we are finally getting it.
There are a bunch of new vehicles unique to Combat Mission, such as the M60 series, the T-64 series and the T-80 series tanks, plus some new variants of the M113. There is also the M48 Chaparral which is cool.
As others have mentioned, it takes place in the Cold War, 1979-1982 which is also unique, but can be understandably underwhelming for someone not interested in that time period. I personally am extremely interested in the time period, and I also really like Combat Mission, so I am a bit biased.
That said, I definitely get your complaints. I share them to a degree as well. I wish we could have essentially double the map size (and double the optimization to boot) as well as a few other quality of life improvements to reduce the admin burden on the player. The biggest thing I am hoping for is an optimization improvement. They have announced that there will be an engine 5 upgrade. No details on that yet, but I really hope at least part of it includes optimization.
I understand the comment - but I remember reading somewhere that research by the US army after WWII found the actual average opening engagement range in NWE was about 600 yards - Even the shermans 75 had a range of over 2,300 yds. Estimates that - given line of sight and terrain - it wouldn't have been much different in any cold war engagement - especially given things were a lot more built up. Bigger maps be nice - but short of being in the desert - not sure theoretical ranges play too badly against what CM is trying to simulate. Still - bigger anything is better.
Not sure you can stand in a lot of places in germany in 1985 and fire at something 2-3 miles away in a straight line wihthout something getting in the way.
QuoteI understand the comment - but I remember reading somewhere that research by the US army after WWII found the actual average opening engagement range in NWE was about 600 yards - Even the shermans 75 had a range of over 2,300 yds. Estimates that - given line of sight and terrain - it wouldn't have been much different in any cold war engagement - especially given things were a lot more built up. Bigger maps be nice - but short of being in the desert - not sure theoretical ranges play too badly against what CM is trying to simulate. Still - bigger anything is better.
It's not about engagement ranges - its about maneuver space.
There's nothing more frustrating than playing CMSF or CMBS and being
IMMEDIATELY engaged with direct and indirect weapons. Your first move was doomed to fail and you've already blundered by making contact with the enemy. The player gets punished.
BUT, the National Training Center is as flat desert-like terrain that you will ever see. Lines of sight for 20+ miles in some areas. How is CMCW going to depict that with its current engine limitations? The entire combat center also revolves around a massive mountain (Tiefort Mountain). It should be interesting to see how the dev's pull that one off.
(https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Edward_Salo/publication/296637967/figure/fig9/AS:667645204525088@1536190429929/MOUT-at-the-National-Training-Center-Fort-Irwin-California.png)
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6c/Fort_Irwin_National_Training_Center_-_Road_-_1.jpg)
(https://images04.military.com/sites/default/files/styles/full/public/media/global/newscred/2017/05/national-training-center-2100-31-may-2017.jpeg.jpg?itok=bfJyVhBU)
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2021, 02:17:08 AM
This still hurts my eyes after over 10yrs... I am still using a 1080 screen as well. My previous of a different wider resolution died and to keep my FPS up in high end games I kept the same res. I should go up to a 1440 res monitor but I think that would make the text even smaller.
I use a 3440 x 1440 monitor and CM looks great on it. I don't have a problem reading the text................but I do have glasses.
Quote from: Zulu1966 on February 21, 2021, 05:48:15 AM
Quote from: IICptMillerII on February 21, 2021, 12:10:50 AM
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 20, 2021, 09:07:10 PM
Quote from: al_infierno on February 20, 2021, 08:46:24 PM
Do you mean aside from the completely new setting and a TO&E for 1979-82?
Yes. Is there anything innovative with this release?
DPICM/cluster munitions for artillery and aircraft respectively comes to mind. Its been a requested feature for a long time and I'm glad we are finally getting it.
There are a bunch of new vehicles unique to Combat Mission, such as the M60 series, the T-64 series and the T-80 series tanks, plus some new variants of the M113. There is also the M48 Chaparral which is cool.
As others have mentioned, it takes place in the Cold War, 1979-1982 which is also unique, but can be understandably underwhelming for someone not interested in that time period. I personally am extremely interested in the time period, and I also really like Combat Mission, so I am a bit biased.
That said, I definitely get your complaints. I share them to a degree as well. I wish we could have essentially double the map size (and double the optimization to boot) as well as a few other quality of life improvements to reduce the admin burden on the player. The biggest thing I am hoping for is an optimization improvement. They have announced that there will be an engine 5 upgrade. No details on that yet, but I really hope at least part of it includes optimization.
I understand the comment - but I remember reading somewhere that research by the US army after WWII found the actual average opening engagement range in NWE was about 600 yards - Even the shermans 75 had a range of over 2,300 yds. Estimates that - given line of sight and terrain - it wouldn't have been much different in any cold war engagement - especially given things were a lot more built up. Bigger maps be nice - but short of being in the desert - not sure theoretical ranges play too badly against what CM is trying to simulate. Still - bigger anything is better.
Not sure you can stand in a lot of places in germany in 1985 and fire at something 2-3 miles away in a straight line wihthout something getting in the way.
There were defense terrain surveys done in Germany that found that the average sightline was not more than 1500m. This is mostly due to the nature of the terrain (terrain dictates) with the rolling hills and forests present in Germany and the rest of Western Europe.
Apocalype does bring up a good point though, and posted some great pictures as well! Again, we are in agreement here. I am really hoping that we continue to see larger maps possible in the CMx2 engine. There is hope for this. When CMSF1 first came out I think the max map size was something like 1.5x1.5km. The current engine supports maps that can be more than twice as large now. I really do hope that we continue to see the maximum map size increase.
Concerning the NTC terrain, I can say that the guy developing the maps and campaign is a prior serviceman who spent a fair bit of time at the NTC. A lot of love has gone into his maps and scenarios. He has picked terrain that certainly allows for very interesting and tense tactical actions, even given CMs map size limitations. I think anyone who has been to NTC will recognize some of the terrain right away, and those that have not been will quickly learn why OPFOR has the reputation it does.
Whether you are talking about map size in regards to engagement or maneuver, you must remember that a person's computer has to be able to comfortably manage the system requirements.
Not everyone has a computer capable of handling large maps with the all the troops and terrain at a quality where the game would be enjoyable.
Battlefront is a business and I presume they craft the requirements in as much of a balance as is possible to ensure reaching as large an interested market as possible.
As I recall, originally the game was advertised as best played at Company level.
Quote from: z1812 on February 21, 2021, 11:13:26 AM
Whether you are talking about map size in regards to engagement or maneuver, you must remember that a person's computer has to be able to comfortably manage the system requirements.
Not everyone has a computer capable of handling large maps with the all the troops and terrain at a quality where the game would be enjoyable.
Battlefront is a business and I presume they craft the requirements in as much of a balance as is possible to ensure reaching as large an interested market as possible.
As I recall, originally the game was advertised as best played at Company level.
Yeah - and I think this is partly the point. Company level and 16KM squared seems room for manoeuvre at that scale - try to put a battalion in there and yes the maps are a limit - guess that is down to scenario makers. In any event - not saying it wouldn't be good to have much larger maps - just saying in Germany I dont think it makes a difference given the right force size. Not much interested in the NTC stuff myself.
Not sure if the maps limit is a hardcoded one on one they have set to stop people trying. Seems a desert or terrain like NTC would have much less requirements given the sparseness of terrain - so could be done with those. Not sure the coding that good to allow memory measurement.
QuoteAs I recall, originally the game was advertised as best played at Company level.
And what is the
typical size of an armored company area of operations?
Hint - Bigger than a Combat Mission map can run within reason (without a super computer).
To caveat your statement - the game was designed WW2 combat, focused on light infantry engagements with some armor support.
Quote from: Apocalypse 31 on February 21, 2021, 12:54:16 PM
QuoteAs I recall, originally the game was advertised as best played at Company level.
And what is the typical size of an armored company area of operations?
Hint - Bigger than a Combat Mission map can run within reason (without a super computer).
To caveat your statement - the game was designed WW2 combat, focused on light infantry engagements with some armor support.
So bearing in mind the difficulty of keeping the game in the realm of possibility for a reasonable spectrum of customers with different computer specs, what do you suggest?
I also wonder how manageable and enjoyable CM would become with much larger maps. As Apocalypse points out, the game-system started out as a way of depicting WW2 tactical encounters. I think it does a great job at that, but maybe getting more modern is pushing its envelope too far.
Battlefront obviously have to keep developing and selling new products, and going forward in time seems logical, but will it necessarily make for a good gaming experience?
Someone above joked (?) about a WW1 game, and I think there is scope for a tactical treatment of early WW1 stuff and also even the later trench fighting.
^I can only pray that you are correct, Father.
Quote from: Father Ted on February 21, 2021, 02:09:00 PM
I also wonder how manageable and enjoyable CM would become with much larger maps. As Apocalypse points out, the game-system started out as a way of depicting WW2 tactical encounters. I think it does a great job at that, but maybe getting more modern is pushing its envelope too far.
Battlefront obviously have to keep developing and selling new products, and going forward in time seems logical, but will it necessarily make for a good gaming experience?
Someone above joked (?) about a WW1 game, and I think there is scope for a tactical treatment of early WW1 stuff and also even the later trench fighting.
Can a WW1-themed scenario be created in any of the current CM modules? It's been so long since I played my copy of CM:BfN I can't remember how customizable the unit load outs were. I don't even know if I have the install file anymore since I've changed my computer since last I played.
If the editor allows simulating trenches (maybe by raising the terrain on either side?) and there are options for barbwire and lots of shell holes you could do an 'over the top' scenario using only troops w/ bolt action rifles. The only issue would be how to decrease the ROF of the WW2 MGs to simulate the ones of WW1 types such as the Maxim.
The original terrain editor w/ CB:AK was good enough for making steep, hilly maps so maybe CM2 might allow for creating scenarios, set in Italy and even the Balkans along the Adriatic, such as depicting Rommel's WW1 exploits as a unit commander in the Alpenkorps.
Quote from: Staggerwing on February 21, 2021, 02:46:51 PM
If the editor allows simulating trenches (maybe by raising the terrain on either side?)
Visually I think that still won't work - you can place trench objects, but the models are only 2d. Using the editor to "dig" a 3d trench would mean that such a feature is a tile's width (40m?) wide I think.
"Someone above joked (?) about a WW1 game, and I think there is scope for a tactical treatment of early WW1 stuff and also even the later trench fighting."
So much this. I've waited so long.
Quote from: z1812 on February 21, 2021, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2021, 02:17:08 AM
This still hurts my eyes after over 10yrs... I am still using a 1080 screen as well. My previous of a different wider resolution died and to keep my FPS up in high end games I kept the same res. I should go up to a 1440 res monitor but I think that would make the text even smaller.
I use a 3440 x 1440 monitor and CM looks great on it. I don't have a problem reading the text................but I do have glasses.
How much of the screen does your briefing screen fill?
At least there are not many tanks to model for WW1:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_World_War_I_tanks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_World_War_I_tanks)
Best regards
Thomm
There was a very good PTO mod for the original CMBO that I played the hell out of way back. My dream would be a new version of it. :dreamer:
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2021, 09:09:37 PM
Quote from: z1812 on February 21, 2021, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2021, 02:17:08 AM
This still hurts my eyes after over 10yrs... I am still using a 1080 screen as well. My previous of a different wider resolution died and to keep my FPS up in high end games I kept the same res. I should go up to a 1440 res monitor but I think that would make the text even smaller.
I use a 3440 x 1440 monitor and CM looks great on it. I don't have a problem reading the text................but I do have glasses.
How much of the screen does your briefing screen fill?
A small part in the center. The text is about the same size as you might see in a phone text message. It is easy for me to read, but as I have said I wear glasses and I know that helps.
Quote from: z1812 on February 22, 2021, 02:00:11 PM
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2021, 09:09:37 PM
Quote from: z1812 on February 21, 2021, 10:34:27 AM
Quote from: Destraex on February 21, 2021, 02:17:08 AM
This still hurts my eyes after over 10yrs... I am still using a 1080 screen as well. My previous of a different wider resolution died and to keep my FPS up in high end games I kept the same res. I should go up to a 1440 res monitor but I think that would make the text even smaller.
I use a 3440 x 1440 monitor and CM looks great on it. I don't have a problem reading the text................but I do have glasses.
How much of the screen does your briefing screen fill?
A small part in the center. The text is about the same size as you might see in a phone text message. It is easy for me to read, but as I have said I wear glasses and I know that helps.
Although in today's modern games they should auto adjust for different screen resolutions and provide in-game UI scaling options, you can change the Windows setting to scale your display (i.e. 150% etc.) and the game/text will more fill the screen. Again, you shouldn't have to do it and requires extra step but at least helps for now.
It seems BFC is still planning on releasing Combat Mission Cold War in April. However the Slitherine /Steam release will be delayed until June in order to add multiplayer support. Steve at the BFC forum posted about the multiplayer support. Below is part of what he posted.
We are jointly publishing Cold War with Slitherine. Until the Slitherine launches there is no Steam version and Slitherine isn't planning on launching until June.
So why is Cold War going to take a few more months to come out for Slitherine? Because they asked us to put in some multiplayer support that no Combat Mission has (so far). And it needs to be extensively tested. Which is why an otherwise nearly complete Combat Mission game with traditional features isn't being released by Slitherine sooner.
In the same thread Steve implied other CM titles that have and/or will be released on Slitherine / Steam will also get this same multiplayer support. :)
Quote from: MOS:96B2P on April 11, 2021, 02:05:40 PM
It seems BFC is still planning on releasing Combat Mission Cold War in April. However the Slitherine /Steam release will be delayed until June in order to add multiplayer support. Steve at the BFC forum posted about the multiplayer support. Below is part of what he posted.
We are jointly publishing Cold War with Slitherine. Until the Slitherine launches there is no Steam version and Slitherine isn't planning on launching until June.
So why is Cold War going to take a few more months to come out for Slitherine? Because they asked us to put in some multiplayer support that no Combat Mission has (so far). And it needs to be extensively tested. Which is why an otherwise nearly complete Combat Mission game with traditional features isn't being released by Slitherine sooner.
In the same thread Steve implied other CM titles that have and/or will be released on Slitherine / Steam will also get this same multiplayer support. :)
So thats likely Slitherines PBEM system ?
If cold war makes an April release i shall eat my hat and several other peoples as well.
dont eat any peoples, the hat has enough fiber.
^ Proper punctuation saves lives.
;D Some folks I know, the hat would be the best part. ::)
So this is just fancier PBEM?
Or multiplayer-per-side?
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 12, 2021, 02:58:23 PM
If cold war makes an April release i shall eat my hat and several other peoples as well.
Zulu1966 - potential consumer of both millinery and nations
Quote from: Redwolf on April 15, 2021, 10:57:48 AM
So this is just fancier PBEM?
Or multiplayer-per-side?
I have not used Slitherine /Steam multi-player so I'm not sure how it works. I suspect for CM it would handle the turns between two players. Multiple players per side just sounds to good to be true.
Steve over at BFC posted the below:
So what are we talking about in terms of time? F&R = days, Cold War = a week, maybe two.
Those are the best estimates I can give at this point. More exact than that is only possible after we've put the URLs into the store.
So Combat Mission Red Thunder module Fire & Rubble may be out in days.
Combat Mission Cold War game family may be out in a week or two.
I'm already wondering what might be a first module for CMCW. :)
Quote from: MOS:96B2P on April 23, 2021, 09:15:58 AM
Steve over at BFC posted the below:
So what are we talking about in terms of time? F&R = days, Cold War = a week, maybe two.
Those are the best estimates I can give at this point. More exact than that is only possible after we've put the URLs into the store.
So Combat Mission Red Thunder module Fire & Rubble may be out in days.
Combat Mission Cold War game family may be out in a week or two.
I'm already wondering what might be a first module for CMCW. :)
Interesting ... currently eyeing up several peoples and a bottle of chianti. :knuppel2:
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 23, 2021, 11:13:42 AM
Interesting ... currently eyeing up several peoples and a bottle of chianti. :knuppel2:
:DD
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 12, 2021, 02:58:23 PM
So thats likely Slitherines PBEM system ?
If cold war makes an April release i shall eat my hat and several other peoples as well.
Not for nuttin....Ya might want to start looking for the tastiest hat you can find. Just sayin. ;)
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 12, 2021, 02:58:23 PM
If cold war makes an April release i shall eat my hat and several other peoples as well.
It's officially out. April 30th local. Let's see you eating the hat. Pictures or it didn't happen.
Quote from: Elvis on April 30, 2021, 06:46:59 AM
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 12, 2021, 02:58:23 PM
If cold war makes an April release i shall eat my hat and several other peoples as well.
It's officially out. April 30th local. Let's see you eating the hat. Pictures or it didn't happen.
(https://tremorsintoronto.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/eating-gif.gif?w=475&zoom=2)
That...is a delicious looking hat.
The definition of several is more than 2 but less than many. So if you settle on 3 for several, and of course there is your own hat, that is 4 eats to be eaten.
I am unsure which wine goes with hats, but I would recommend at least one bottle per hat.
^HA
Awesome game. This work day is a goner.
Quote from: Elvis on April 30, 2021, 06:46:59 AM
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 12, 2021, 02:58:23 PM
If cold war makes an April release i shall eat my hat and several other peoples as well.
It's officially out. April 30th local. Let's see you eating the hat. Pictures or it didn't happen.
Man - they did it deliberately. Knew there was a reason I shouldn't have pre ordered - could have argued it wasn't. Damn. Going to have to get a take out now.... :'(
Now going to buy the smallest hat I can find.
It was a clever piece of reverse psychology on my part - if I hadnt said it it would have arrived later. DL now....
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 30, 2021, 11:10:36 AM
Quote from: Elvis on April 30, 2021, 06:46:59 AM
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 12, 2021, 02:58:23 PM
If cold war makes an April release i shall eat my hat and several other peoples as well.
It's officially out. April 30th local. Let's see you eating the hat. Pictures or it didn't happen.
Man - they did it deliberately. Knew there was a reason I shouldn't have pre ordered - could have argued it wasn't. Damn. Going to have to get a take out now.... :'(
Now going to buy the smallest hat I can find.
It was a clever piece of reverse psychology on my part - if I hadnt said it it would have arrived later. DL now....
Blame me. :) I could have sat on it another day but I had to see the "eatin o the hat"
Quote from: Elvis on April 30, 2021, 11:59:50 AM
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 30, 2021, 11:10:36 AM
Quote from: Elvis on April 30, 2021, 06:46:59 AM
Quote from: Zulu1966 on April 12, 2021, 02:58:23 PM
If cold war makes an April release i shall eat my hat and several other peoples as well.
It's officially out. April 30th local. Let's see you eating the hat. Pictures or it didn't happen.
Man - they did it deliberately. Knew there was a reason I shouldn't have pre ordered - could have argued it wasn't. Damn. Going to have to get a take out now.... :'(
Now going to buy the smallest hat I can find.
It was a clever piece of reverse psychology on my part - if I hadnt said it it would have arrived later. DL now....
Blame me. :) I could have sat on it another day but I had to see the "eatin o the hat"
:DD :notworthy:
^ :2funny: > O0
One of the many new features in Combat Mission Cold War is the Medium Girder Bridge (MGB).
(https://i.imgur.com/geHg0aPh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/CKChjWMh.jpg)
Is that an M60?
Quote from: Gusington on May 01, 2021, 01:20:09 PM
Is that an M60?
Yeah, the entire game is full of M60s.
Early Abrams is in, too, as well as some leftover M48.
Yes it's an M-60 Patton on the MGB. There are seven versions of the M-60, an M48A5 Patton and a 105mm Abrams. Below are some screenshots of the Cold War US tanks in NTC terrain. Back row are three of the M60s. Front row is M48 and M1. I hope a future module brings in the M551 Sheridan and others.
(https://i.imgur.com/U6eC2A7h.jpg)
Thanks, those models looks solid.
Edited the title to something a little more relevant with regards to search queries. ;)
That M60A2 with the 152mm gun is a beast in the game, especially at long range.
Here are the M113s in the game set in the National Training Center (NTC) environment.
(https://i.imgur.com/uD1LERLh.jpg)
I just reread Red Storm Rising a few months ago. Man, was that a fun read, even if Clancy's technology usually worked a bit more reliably than IRL!
Did we ever figure out how effective TOWs or Apaches were against T72s? Or whether the M1A1's stabilization technology really put it in a different class than anything the Russians could field in terms of shooting on the move?
I remember a ton of weapons systems that all looked good on paper but never ended up being deployed in combat until 1991, against an undertrained and overbombed Iraqi army that melted like butter in the desert. After all these years, I can't even remember when the Bradleys finally replaced the M113s, when the F16s replaced the F4s, when the Leopards rolled out en masse, or when the M1A1 got its teething problems worked out.
I do remember, by 1990s, the Danes had at least one tank. I saw it on a railroad siding once!
Patch 1.01 is out.
It contains at least one bridge bug fix :D
Change list here:
https://community.battlefront.com/topic/139422-cm-cold-war-v101-patch-is-now-avilable/
Quote from: Redwolf on May 28, 2021, 08:43:46 PM
Patch 1.01 is out.
It contains at least one bridge bug fix :D
Change list here:
https://community.battlefront.com/topic/139422-cm-cold-war-v101-patch-is-now-avilable/
Thanks Redwolf! Downloading now. O0
So what is the status of CM Cold War? I look at the Battlefront page and it is apparently still in beta...with PBEM coming with the full release. The web page mentions July 21 (it is now October 21), so wondering...is it finished? or still waiting that final patch?
The game has been fully released for a while, but Battlefront are absolutely atrocious at updating their website and keeping their communications consistent.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on October 06, 2021, 11:12:08 AM
So what is the status of CM Cold War? I look at the Battlefront page and it is apparently still in beta...with PBEM coming with the full release. The web page mentions July 21 (it is now October 21), so wondering...is it finished? or still waiting that final patch?
That July thing is the patch with PBEM++. That patch is heavily delayed. The currently released version works just fine, with normal PBEM.
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on May 04, 2021, 12:35:15 AM
I just reread Red Storm Rising a few months ago. Man, was that a fun read, even if Clancy's technology usually worked a bit more reliably than IRL!
Did we ever figure out how effective TOWs or Apaches were against T72s? Or whether the M1A1's stabilization technology really put it in a different class than anything the Russians could field in terms of shooting on the move?
I remember a ton of weapons systems that all looked good on paper but never ended up being deployed in combat until 1991, against an undertrained and overbombed Iraqi army that melted like butter in the desert. After all these years, I can't even remember when the Bradleys finally replaced the M113s, when the F16s replaced the F4s, when the Leopards rolled out en masse, or when the M1A1 got its teething problems worked out.
I do remember, by 1990s, the Danes had at least one tank. I saw it on a railroad siding once!
I wonder if they tested all this after the curtain came down and they got access to some Ruskintech. Even the Iraqi tanks were only export versions iirc.
Got a notification that CM: Cold War is now out on Steam. $85AU, so pretty steep. Do Battlefront games ever go on sale on Steam?
Quote from: smithcorp on November 16, 2021, 06:37:16 PM
Got a notification that CM: Cold War is now out on Steam. $85AU, so pretty steep. Do Battlefront games ever go on sale on Steam?
There is a discount right now for the 3 modern CM games, on Steam.
Note that the Steam version doesn't work on Win11 right now.
Looking right now to finally try a Combat Mission game. I'm interested in Cold War and Black Sea. Anyone have a preference? I only want to pick up one to start and I'm leaning towards Cold War.
Gus, if you have never played CM before, you many want to consider starting off with one of the WWII CM titles. My reason for this suggestion are as follows:
1) IMHO, CM map sizes work best with WWII-era weapon ranges. I believe the modern games have too little space for the modern systems. (having said that, I'll be buying CM Cold War. Its just I wouldn't recommend it for a first-time CM player)
2) There are more WWII scenarios available
Quote from: smithcorp on November 16, 2021, 06:37:16 PM
Got a notification that CM: Cold War is now out on Steam. $85AU, so pretty steep. Do Battlefront games ever go on sale on Steam?
Yes, they go on sale on Steam, and during Matrix sales (which come with Steam keys). Given the Steam release is new, I would not expect much, if any, discount this year. However, the days of having to pay full price for Battlefront games, even if they were released a decade ago, are hopefully ending. (Yes, I know Cold War is not that old, but anyone familiar with Battlefront knows what I am talking about.)
Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.
Quote from: smithcorp on November 16, 2021, 11:18:17 PM
Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.
Apparently you get the 20% off CW if you already have SF2 and BS in your Steam account. Might be worth trying.
Quote from: Gusington on November 16, 2021, 09:28:41 PM
Looking right now to finally try a Combat Mission game. I'm interested in Cold War and Black Sea. Anyone have a preference? I only want to pick up one to start and I'm leaning towards Cold War.
Definitely do not start with Black Sea. The hardware in that game is brutal and if you are unfamiliar with how CM works it will be a senseless endeavor in frustration.
I'll echo Tripoli's advise to start with WW2. Or, if you want modern stuff, go with CW or SF2.
Quote from: Gusington on November 16, 2021, 09:28:41 PM
Looking right now to finally try a Combat Mission game. I'm interested in Cold War and Black Sea. Anyone have a preference? I only want to pick up one to start and I'm leaning towards Cold War.
CW. Just a good fit for the CM engine and great fun.
Thanks Tripoli, Yassy and Redwolf...will continue perusing 😎
Quote from: smithcorp on November 16, 2021, 11:18:17 PM
Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.
If you have both through Battlefront, you can link them to a Matrix/Slitherine account. That will generate Steam keys that you can then use to own them on Steam and take advantage of the 20% bundle discount for just CW.
I've played all the WWII CM games all the way back to the demo for CMBO. When Shockforce came out I tried out the demo and was baffled by the newer weapon systems. CM Has always been a system that doesn't have Hit Points that fill-up before something is destroyed or some other way of scoring kills. In these games, if it sees you, it can probably kill you, or disable, rout, suppress, or damage with one hit.
If a Russian 45mm AT Gun could kill my Panzer 3's from 600 meters in 1941, you can imagine what the weapons of 1970-80 can do. I agree with others here, start with something less lethal to try to manage first. But other than the price, this game does look very, 'Loin-Moistening'.
Quote from: Gusington on November 17, 2021, 07:56:19 AM
Thanks Tripoli, Yassy and Redwolf...will continue perusing 😎
Just to add to what the others have all said (and no doubt some persuaders have told you this before), there is demo for CMBN (and all CM games tend to play pretty much the same) so you could see if it's your thing before parting with the readies
Cool, thank you
Quote from: Gusington on November 16, 2021, 09:28:41 PM
Looking right now to finally try a Combat Mission game. I'm interested in Cold War and Black Sea. Anyone have a preference? I only want to pick up one to start and I'm leaning towards Cold War.
IMO all the Combat Mission games are good and come with an editor. Given the choice between CM Black Sea and CM Cold War my personal bias would be for CM Cold War. In CM Cold War you will see the technology evolving from late WW2. You can command a US force composed of M48 tanks and M113 APCs in one scenario or M1 Abrams and M2 Bradleys in another scenario. The Soviet Motorized Rifle Battalions (MRB) can have BTRs or BMPs. In the CMCW base game timeframe, 1979 to 1982, the technology between NATO and the Warsaw Pact is competitive. CMCW also tends to have big maps with many of the stock scenarios.
(https://i.imgur.com/8ZSQ5ech.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/B4Ezxo2h.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/8LLat9wh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6hmilUth.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/U6eC2A7h.jpg)
^Those are some loin moistening screen shots.
Quote from: Redwolf on November 17, 2021, 02:14:11 AM
Quote from: smithcorp on November 16, 2021, 11:18:17 PM
Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.
Apparently you get the 20% off CW if you already have SF2 and BS in your Steam account. Might be worth trying.
I tried both Steam and the Battlefront store and I received no discount. Have Black Sea and CMSF2 on Steam.
Quote from: gregb41352 on November 17, 2021, 08:03:57 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 17, 2021, 02:14:11 AM
Quote from: smithcorp on November 16, 2021, 11:18:17 PM
Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.
Apparently you get the 20% off CW if you already have SF2 and BS in your Steam account. Might be worth trying.
I tried both Steam and the Battlefront store and I received no discount. Have Black Sea and CMSF2 on Steam.
If you have both on Steam, you should have the discount on Steam. Go to the actual Cold War store page. The game itself will show full price. Right below it should be a "Combat Mission Collection" which includes all three CM games that have been released on Steam with a 20% discount. If you already have the other two, this leaves Cold War at 20% off. This is on the US page... I don't know if the bundle discount is offered in other countries.
Quote from: Gusington on November 16, 2021, 09:28:41 PM
Looking right now to finally try a Combat Mission game. I'm interested in Cold War and Black Sea. Anyone have a preference? I only want to pick up one to start and I'm leaning towards Cold War.
Quote from: Tripoli on November 16, 2021, 10:02:18 PM
Gus, if you have never played CM before, you many want to consider starting off with one of the WWII CM titles. My reason for this suggestion are as follows:
1) IMHO, CM map sizes work best with WWII-era weapon ranges. I believe the modern games have too little space for the modern systems. (having said that, I'll be buying CM Cold War. Its just I wouldn't recommend it for a first-time CM player)
2) There are more WWII scenarios available
My understanding is that Cold War strikes a nice balance between the modern titles and the WWII titles. The combat and weapons systems portrayed are not quite as hyper precise and ultra deadly as Black Sea, but it's also not quite as fiddly and archaic as the weapons systems portrayed in the WWII titles. That said I bought the game a while ago and only just now installed it through Steam so I have yet to give it a go.
^I've wanted a Cold War game like this forever. I'm really interested in the setting and weapons systems of both sides so that would push me through to learn the game's systems and then enjoy the campaigns.
You'll probably dig CM:CW then, you can do custom battles where you spend points to build a force out of companies/platoons/squads, vehicles, specialist teams, air/arty support, and so on. You can spend a ton of time fiddling with their positioning and orders, but the UI is very clean and easy to learn. There's a good bit of micro, but you can choose to play WEGO turn-based which mitigates that quite a bit. I would strongly recommend it based on my experience with the previous titles.
Also, I just fired up a battle and am awe-struck at the size of a Medium map. It's at least as big as the largest maps in the previous titles.
Gus, I would highly recommend Cold War. Not that I am biased at all...
Anyways, the reason is that Cold War, in my opinion, hits all of the best parts of the CM engine. It features maps that are large enough to maneuver given the weapon ranges and lethality. This was a conscious design decision we went with. The US, NTC, and Soviet campaigns all feature large map with realistic forces for the sides and contexts. There are a bunch of scenarios, a lot of which are great as well.
Arguably the best part is the fact that it covers a pivotal period of technology. You can have M48s going up against T-55s, which essentially features WW2 era tank gunnery. And then at the other extreme, you can roll with the original M1 Abrams going up against the T-80B, with modern fire control computers, laser range finders, and exceptional armor. You quite literally get the best of both worlds, and everything in between. Kinda hard to go wrong with it!
Quote from: Sigwolf on November 17, 2021, 08:20:33 PM
Quote from: gregb41352 on November 17, 2021, 08:03:57 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 17, 2021, 02:14:11 AM
Quote from: smithcorp on November 16, 2021, 11:18:17 PM
Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.
Apparently you get the 20% off CW if you already have SF2 and BS in your Steam account. Might be worth trying.
I tried both Steam and the Battlefront store and I received no discount. Have Black Sea and CMSF2 on Steam.
If you have both on Steam, you should have the discount on Steam. Go to the actual Cold War store page. The game itself will show full price. Right below it should be a "Combat Mission Collection" which includes all three CM games that have been released on Steam with a 20% discount. If you already have the other two, this leaves Cold War at 20% off. This is on the US page... I don't know if the bundle discount is offered in other countries.
Yikes thanks for the guidance. The older I get the dumber I get. I was told it was going to be the opposite
but since I hit 70 it's been pretty much downhill.
Anyway since I'm here I'll put my 2 cents into the discussion. Get the CW game. If that's the time period you're interested in I'd go for it. These CM titles are just astonishing as far as I'm concerned. Nothing else quite like them.
Thank you CPT and al! I love the idea of older tech vs. newer tech. Especially the tanks.
Are there Hinds? I thought I read that there were Hinds and A-10s.
Does anyone know if there are plans to add other NATO forces or Warsaw Pact allies in later add-ons?
A new module has been confirmed which will most likely add some more factions, but no details confirmed as far as I know.
Don't know about hinds as aircrafts are not rendered on the map, but rather act as "off map artillery" unfortunately.
Quote from: Gusington on November 17, 2021, 10:06:42 PM
Thank you CPT and al! I love the idea of older tech vs. newer tech. Especially the tanks.
Are there Hinds? I thought I read that there were Hinds and A-10s.
No problem. Yup, there are Hinds and A-10s. And F-4s, and A-7s, and Mig-27s, etc. But as mentioned, they are not 3D modeled.
Quote from: Sir Slash on November 17, 2021, 10:30:52 PM
Does anyone know if there are plans to add other NATO forces or Warsaw Pact allies in later add-ons?
We are working on the first module now! Can't reveal details yet, but I will say there are new nations coming.
Thanks for the update Cap! O0
So...Luxembourg Capt.? ;D
Quote from: al_infierno on November 17, 2021, 10:42:42 PM
Don't know about hinds as aircrafts are not rendered on the map, but rather act as "off map artillery" unfortunately.
It is quite a bit more. They will find targets without their designated attack zone on their own (as opposed to artillery that falls randomly in the zone).
And AA units (AAA and missiles) fire back and can shoot down aircraft. I can be a nice battle in a battle. If you brought AA equipment. If not you are screwed.
:D
Quote from: Redwolf on November 18, 2021, 10:08:28 AM
Quote from: al_infierno on November 17, 2021, 10:42:42 PM
Don't know about hinds as aircrafts are not rendered on the map, but rather act as "off map artillery" unfortunately.
It is quite a bit more. They will find targets without their designated attack zone on their own (as opposed to artillery that falls randomly in the zone).
And AA units (AAA and missiles) fire back and can shoot down aircraft. I can be a nice battle in a battle. If you brought AA equipment. If not you are screwed.
This. Good point. The use of close air support and air defense is something worth considering.
(https://i.imgur.com/OxS9WhSh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zqW1ysGh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/csoBM3ih.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/zwclE4lh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/spfq2yZh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UMM8kzeh.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6tx3sXlh.jpg)
I really want to buy this game but am hesitating because it seems to me that it's limited to Western Europe from 1979 to 1981?
I really want to play the June 1967 Six Day War and the 1973 Yom Kippur War on this engine but oh well...
Is that a Stinger or some form of precursor to it?
Quote from: Gusington on November 18, 2021, 12:33:22 PM
Is that a Stinger or some form of precursor to it?
It has Stinger and Redeye for the US.
That is awesome.
Quote from: W8taminute on November 18, 2021, 11:52:28 AM
I really want to buy this game but am hesitating because it seems to me that it's limited to Western Europe from 1979 to 1981?
I really want to play the June 1967 Six Day War and the 1973 Yom Kippur War on this engine but oh well...
Might actually be doable via modding.
Quote from: Sigwolf on November 17, 2021, 12:03:31 PM
Quote from: smithcorp on November 16, 2021, 11:18:17 PM
Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.
If you have both through Battlefront, you can link them to a Matrix/Slitherine account. That will generate Steam keys that you can then use to own them on Steam and take advantage of the 20% bundle discount for just CW.
Ooh! I remember i did do that!
Quote from: Redwolf on November 16, 2021, 06:40:05 PM
Note that the Steam version doesn't work on Win11 right now.
My oldest has Windows 11. I had her install the Steam version when I heard a report or 2 of people not being able to run the Steam version on Windows 11. It runs fine for her.
I haven't had a Help Desk ticket from anyone saying they can't run it on Windows 11 or gotten feedback from the Slitherine/Matrix people saying that they are getting reports of it not running.
If anyone seeing this has had a problem running the game on Windows 11 open a Help Desk ticket and we'll figure out what's happening. I suspect the issue is something that doesn't have anything to do with Windows 11. None of my 3 computers can run Windows 11, so I can only go but what my kid sees.
Quote from: W8taminute on November 18, 2021, 11:52:28 AM
I really want to buy this game but am hesitating because it seems to me that it's limited to Western Europe from 1979 to 1981?
I really want to play the June 1967 Six Day War and the 1973 Yom Kippur War on this engine but oh well...
There are, I believe, mods for that.
Quote from: Elvis on November 19, 2021, 08:46:15 PM
Quote from: Redwolf on November 16, 2021, 06:40:05 PM
Note that the Steam version doesn't work on Win11 right now.
My oldest has Windows 11. I had her install the Steam version when I heard a report or 2 of people not being able to run the Steam version on Windows 11. It runs fine for her.
I haven't had a Help Desk ticket from anyone saying they can't run it on Windows 11 or gotten feedback from the Slitherine/Matrix people saying that they are getting reports of it not running.
If anyone seeing this has had a problem running the game on Windows 11 open a Help Desk ticket and we'll figure out what's happening. I suspect the issue is something that doesn't have anything to do with Windows 11. None of my 3 computers can run Windows 11, so I can only go but what my kid sees.
Yeah, I don't see any reports anymore either after a couple early ones on the Steam forums.
Sorry for the false alarm. Just trying to prevent negative reviews.