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Sigwolf

Quote from: W8taminute on February 11, 2023, 09:54:15 PMMeanwhile Xi is mocking Biden for using fighter jets to shoot down balloons. 

Fighter jets are the aerial platform we have for weapons delivery.  What would Xi suggest would be a better alternative?  Passenger jets with slingshots?  Launch an anti-balloon balloon fleet?  Sharks, with freaking laser beams on their heads?  Just an odd thing to focus on.   :twirl:

FarAway Sooner

The FBI's formal mandate includes counterintelligence.  Theoretically, they have "first jurisdiction" over that sort of thing.  Before the intelligence tech got so... technical, there was a very clearly drawn line there.

The CIA spies on the world outside our border, but not inside our border.  From a checks-and-balances standpoint, that makes sense.  That's the domain of the FBI.  It's not something they ever talk about.  Even inside the FBI, nobody in the rank and file really knew anything about that group or what they're doing back when I was a peon walking in the halls of power several decades ago.

In reality, as was alluded to above, the technical competencies required for espionage and counter-espionage create a lot of overlap.  So everybody gets involved.  But if it was a spy satellite floating over the US, that's very correctly FBI jurisdiction.

FarAway Sooner

Quote from: Sigwolf on February 12, 2023, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: W8taminute on February 11, 2023, 09:54:15 PMMeanwhile Xi is mocking Biden for using fighter jets to shoot down balloons. 

Fighter jets are the aerial platform we have for weapons delivery.  What would Xi suggest would be a better alternative?  Passenger jets with slingshots?  Launch an anti-balloon balloon fleet?  Sharks, with freaking laser beams on their heads?  Just an odd thing to focus on.   :twirl:

Good God!  Does this mean we have... a balloon gap?

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Maybe Xi thinks the USAF has Panzer Dragoons.
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Quote from: FarAway Sooner on February 12, 2023, 12:43:41 PM
Quote from: Sigwolf on February 12, 2023, 11:13:24 AM
Quote from: W8taminute on February 11, 2023, 09:54:15 PMMeanwhile Xi is mocking Biden for using fighter jets to shoot down balloons. 

Fighter jets are the aerial platform we have for weapons delivery.  What would Xi suggest would be a better alternative?  Passenger jets with slingshots?  Launch an anti-balloon balloon fleet?  Sharks, with freaking laser beams on their heads?  Just an odd thing to focus on.   :twirl:

Good God!  Does this mean we have... a balloon gap?

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GDS_Starfury

do you see a balloon?

Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


Sir Slash

Better NOT call her that. She probably won't like it. But hell...at closing time???
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GDS_Starfury

seems another balloon got shot down over Lake Huron in the last hour.
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Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


ArizonaTank

This is where our rating goes from "harmless" to "mostly harmless." 

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Quote from: MikeGER on February 05, 2023, 06:51:54 PMdont worry we are still some 90something  ballons short of a war ;-)


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Quote from: GDS_Starfury on February 12, 2023, 03:13:10 PMdo you see a balloon?



Hhhhmmm, looks like a Kardashian to me.
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JasonPratt

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on February 12, 2023, 03:03:13 PMa long thread with links about balloons, drones and ufos.

"We now live in an age where long-range precision-guided weaponry is democratized. Barrier to entry is very low. We are still not prepared to deal with it. So, call all this a big trial balloon." -- heh, well played!
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#148
The full (most recent) article from Tyler Rogoway at the War Zone:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos

Correction: from April 16, 2021, nearly two years ago! Still highly relevant.

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JasonPratt

#149
Ad/mods: shouldn't the overall title of this thread be updated for clarity? e.g. "Balloons, UAPs, and whatnot recently".


Meanwhile, the actual most recent article from Tyler Rogoway (and Howard Altman) at The War Zone, focusing on the "octagonal" craft shot down over Lake Huron.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/fighters-shoot-down-object-over-lake-huron

Edited to add: the comments are amusing in that they're more about bad calls last night at the Super Bowl than the incursions and shootdowns! {g}
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