Cunaxa -- A day later -- September 4, 401 BC

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MengJiao

  September 4, 401 BC

  Trying to make this a more even battle. Tissophanes might have read the writing on some Mesopotamian wall and left the service of the Great King (since the Great King was happy to execute him after Sardis a few years later)... so...no Tissophanes in the array of the Great King.

   Add some Satrapical hoplites and an irrigation ditch on the rebel right (assuming they didn't advance on the 3rd and found a slightly more defensible position).
   Assume some of the 10,000 are stiffening the Satrapical hoplites.
   additional heavy Rebel Cavalry under a Phoenician, Atarbas
   less cohesive 10,000 (some are with the satrapical troops)
   Arieus with the Rebels still (historically he rejoined Artaxerxes by the time of Sardis)
   Rebel plan stop at the ditch: kill Artaxerxes in a counter attack

Here's the Rebel Right wing (note the 10,000 are not as elite as in the historical scenario):
      




MengJiao

Quote from: MengJiao on June 03, 2019, 04:08:52 PM
  September 4, 401 BC

  Trying to make this a more even battle. Tissophanes might have read the writing on some Mesopotamian wall and left the service of the Great King (since the Great King was happy to execute him after Sardis a few years later)... so...no Tissophanes in the array of the Great King.

   Add some Satrapical hoplites and an irrigation ditch on the rebel right (assuming they didn't advance on the 3rd and found a slightly more defensible position).
   Assume some of the 10,000 are stiffening the Satrapical hoplites.
   additional heavy Rebel Cavalry under a Phoenician, Atarbas
   less cohesive 10,000 (some are with the satrapical troops)
   Arieus with the Rebels still (historically he rejoined Artaxerxes by the time of Sardis)
   Rebel plan stop at the ditch: kill Artaxerxes in a counter attack

Here's the Rebel Right wing (note the 10,000 are not as elite as in the historical scenario):

  And here is the Rebel left.  Both sides will collapse at 270 rout points (the Army of the Great King has lost 50 rout points and the Army of the Great King's brother, Cyrus,  as gained about 50, which puts them at about the same rout levels):

MengJiao

Quote from: MengJiao on June 03, 2019, 04:14:57 PM


  And here is the Rebel left.  Both sides will collapse at 270 rout points (the Army of the Great King has lost 50 rout points and the Army of the Great King's brother, Cyrus,  as gained about 50, which puts them at about the same rout levels):

  By the start of turn 3 (about half an hour into the battle), Artaxerxes II (outside this image to the Royal Army right) has rejoined the cavalry reserve since the Royal center is sort of caving in.  Royal Army routs are at 29 due to chariots being hit by archery and hoplites and infantry being hit by archery and heavy Phoenician cavalry BUT the rebel army isn't particularly cohesive either and if the heavy Egyptian infantry comes up and obliterates the hoplites, that should more than restore the balance of routs:

MengJiao

Quote from: MengJiao on June 04, 2019, 05:24:06 AM


  By the start of turn 3 (about half an hour into the battle), Artaxerxes II (outside this image to the Royal Army right) has rejoined the cavalry reserve since the Royal center is sort of caving in.  Royal Army routs are at 29 due to chariots being hit by archery and hoplites and infantry being hit by archery and heavy Phoenician cavalry BUT the rebel army isn't particularly cohesive either and if the heavy Egyptian infantry comes up and obliterates the hoplites, that should more than restore the balance of routs:

  Start of Turn 5 -- about an hour into the battle.  The Royal Army seems to be falling apart faster than the rebel army, though the Persians and Archers have wrecked the rebel right.  The Royal center is gone and probably the rebels can keep going there, though since the Royal Army is still over a hundred and thirty points from collapsing, the battle isn't over yet:


MengJiao

Quote from: MengJiao on June 05, 2019, 06:01:56 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on June 04, 2019, 05:24:06 AM


  By the start of turn 3 (about half an hour into the battle), Artaxerxes II (outside this image to the Royal Army right) has rejoined the cavalry reserve since the Royal center is sort of caving in.  Royal Army routs are at 29 due to chariots being hit by archery and hoplites and infantry being hit by archery and heavy Phoenician cavalry BUT the rebel army isn't particularly cohesive either and if the heavy Egyptian infantry comes up and obliterates the hoplites, that should more than restore the balance of routs:

  Start of Turn 5 -- about an hour into the battle.  The Royal Army seems to be falling apart faster than the rebel army, though the Persians and Archers have wrecked the rebel right.  The Royal center is gone and probably the rebels can keep going there, though since the Royal Army is still over a hundred and thirty points from collapsing, the battle isn't over yet:

  For the Great King, with his army chopped in half and starting to fall apart, the only sensible thing to do is to with draw and fight again another day so this is a minor win for his brother Cyrus.