Old World from Soren Johnson

[Gusington]

^Both in real life and in-game.

Have you been successful in wars in Old World? Egypt kicked my arse and took three of my cities in my session today :/

They offered a truce if I betrayed the Scythians, which I did...and now I feel badly.

[devoncop]

^Both in real life and in-game.

Have you been successful in wars in Old World? Egypt kicked my arse and took three of my cities in my session today :/

They offered a truce if I betrayed the Scythians, which I did...and now I feel badly.

I have mostly tried to avoid wars unless it is against a nation already at war with another AI....ideally on the other side of them so I can be confident their army will be largely a long way from mine (truly heroic I am ;))...By doing that I obtained about 2/3 of a tottering Greece in one game as the Egyptians whist Rome did most of the actual hard lifting.

[Gusington]

Egypt was pretty aggressive with me. I was building cities near theirs and that set off the AI. Bastards.

[nelmsm]

My biggest gripe so far is that I keep getting spammed by raiders.  Otherwise, an enjoyable game!

[GibbyG]

My game as Carthage I had about 4 cities and did something to piss off the Vandals, who demanded tribute or they would declare war.  I dont pay tribute to barbarians, so war it was.  I hadn't really scouted very well and didn't realize I was completely surrounded by Vandal sites. They came pouring into my cities along with a bunch of barbarian raiders.  Game over.

[Gusington]

'I don't pay tribute to barbarians.' Quotable!

[Gusington]

There is so much I have yet to learn in this game. I am currently dead last in points of the four powers I set the game up with (Greece, Carthage, Egypt, I am Persia). Where my first game as Assyria against Babylonia was pretty close up until the end, I've never even been close in this game and have been the punching bag of Egypt and to a lesse extent, Carthage, not matter what I do. Any advice?

It's a credit to the game that I still really enjoy it while sucking so badly at it.

[devoncop]

Persia is a military specialist Gus. Cyrus has the " Launch Offensive" ability which allows adjacent Persian units to attack twice in a turn so its vital this is used , ideally with three or more friendly units around Cyrus.
They can harvest 50% more from resources so scouts can get you tons of extra income up front early on which can give you a head start. If you are going to go for lots of archers make sure the starting location has lots of wood otherwise pump out slingers that dont need any or go down the warrior/ maceman route.

Wood can be a pain in the arse to get early on as we know so slingers are my preferred option either way for ranged units.
Carthage is not great militarily so if you get a chance to take them on early before they sign a friendship treaty ...ideally, but not essentially when they are already fighting someone else then go for it. Persia can beat them militarily.

Remember to keep all your families happy even if you have to give away luxuries or marry into slightly less than optimal choice wives....the happier they are the more their cities produce.

Its a very deep game though and one I will be returning to very regularly and for me is a big step up from Civ.

[Gusington]

Thanks - I am at turn 112 so Cyrus died a while ago....maybe even before the Egyptians smacked me for developing too close to the border.

I haven't developed archers yet but I do have slingers. My families are always happy, at least.

I love this game I just feel like so many features and subtleties are being lost on me. It's like I need to learn how to learn it.

[Gusington]

Well declaring war on Egypt is definitely the worst possible thing I could have done...instead of recapturing my three lost cities I just pissed the Egyptians off royally (pun intended?) and they blitzed my heartland. I am now at turn 136 and have lost most of the rest of my cities, rebellions have sprung up in the cities I still hold, I have run out of food and have very few combat units left. Every Egyptian unit that comes into my Persian territory is way stronger than anything I have. Time to give up on this campaign as every subsequent turn  has become agonizing :/

[devoncop]

Well declaring war on Egypt is definitely the worst possible thing I could have done...instead of recapturing my three lost cities I just pissed the Egyptians off royally (pun intended?) and they blitzed my heartland. I am now at turn 136 and have lost most of the rest of my cities, rebellions have sprung up in the cities I still hold, I have run out of food and have very few combat units left. Every Egyptian unit that comes into my Persian territory is way stronger than anything I have. Time to give up on this campaign as every subsequent turn  has become agonizing :/

Ouch :-)

[Gusington]

^+1

:/

[GibbyG]

Just won my latest game as Carthage with an ambition victory. For some reason Egypt declares war on me even though they are not near me, just attacking my fleets. Assyria is pulling away in VPs, with me in 3rd about 5 behind.  I only need one more ambition, and it is to have 6 legendary cities and I currently have 4.  I just start buying poets in every city that has a strong culture and I get to 6 as Assyria is 2 points away from the win.

[Gusington]

^Congrats!

:(

[devoncop]

Just won my latest game as Carthage with an ambition victory. For some reason Egypt declares war on me even though they are not near me, just attacking my fleets. Assyria is pulling away in VPs, with me in 3rd about 5 behind.  I only need one more ambition, and it is to have 6 legendary cities and I currently have 4.  I just start buying poets in every city that has a strong culture and I get to 6 as Assyria is 2 points away from the win.

Nailbiting stuff  :)

Both my wins have been pretty tight affairs too... though my losses are usually catastrophic :))  They did a great job with the balance.