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Offline Dammit Carl!

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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #15 on: February 06, 2021, 07:42:39 PM »
Ugh.  Good luck, man.

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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2021, 06:07:03 AM »
I'd strip away all the dry wall and start over with green or purple board.  I would also cut away about a foot of the ceiling drywall and replace that as well.  you got a nice mess there.
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2021, 06:16:27 AM »
I'd strip away all the dry wall and start over with green or purple board.  I would also cut away about a foot of the ceiling drywall and replace that as well.  you got a nice mess there.

Shouldn't we find the leak first?
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2021, 08:08:43 AM »
while the leak is the primary problem all of that drywall is trashed.  theres no 'drying it out'.
it should be replaced with purple board thats used in bathrooms and showers.
but if you want to live with mold.....
just my opinion.
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2021, 09:13:58 AM »
Other than the ceiling, what drywall are you referring to?
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2021, 09:55:19 AM »
the enclosure for the fireplace.
or is it stucco over lathing?
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2021, 10:08:09 AM »
the enclosure for the fireplace.
or is it stucco over lathing?

Itís stucco over cinderblock.
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2021, 10:22:33 AM »
weird, usually theres a layer of extruded metal between the block and stucco.
anyway, in a perfect repair all of that gets removed down to the block.  the block gets to dry out as best it can then sealed with at least 3 coats.
the next step would be to clad the block in purple board and then skim coat that in drywall compound.  once all of that is done it gets painted.
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2021, 10:43:19 AM »
weird, usually theres a layer of extruded metal between the block and stucco.
anyway, in a perfect repair all of that gets removed down to the block.  the block gets to dry out as best it can then sealed with at least 3 coats.
the next step would be to clad the block in purple board and then skim coat that in drywall compound.  once all of that is done it gets painted.

OK. When are you coming over to do this job?
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2021, 10:48:47 AM »
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2021, 09:51:20 AM »
You didn't read the fine print did you Star. Fixing JH's house is in the fine print when you join-up.  :coolsmiley:  When you want your grass cut again Jar?  :P
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #26 on: February 09, 2021, 07:58:13 AM »
I have done my fair share of water leak trouble-shooting during my work life. In my experience, as often as not, the water has traveled from one location to another.

As you have had sealing and flashing done in the obvious area without success, it seems reasonable to consider that the water may be traveling from another area.

I would wait until there has been enough dry weather to presume the chimney area has dried. Then as a previous poster suggested, I would water test that area only, just to confirm whether it is the source of the leak. If it is not then other areas of the roof should be tested working along the edges of the roof first. Then working backwards out from around the Chimney.

After the leak has been identified and waterproofed, then as another poster suggested, redo the inside area around the fireplace with marine grade drywall. Water leaks can be frustrating to track down. Before spending any more money on repairs, and as you do not wish to do the work yourself, use a well regarded contractor. Please do not do any more repair work without discovering the leak. It will most likely only cost you more in the long run.

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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2021, 08:21:02 AM »
I have done my fair share of water leak trouble-shooting during my work life. In my experience, as often as not, the water has traveled from one location to another.

As you have had sealing and flashing done in the obvious area without success, it seems reasonable to consider that the water may be traveling from another area.

I would wait until there has been enough dry weather to presume the chimney area has dried. Then as a previous poster suggested, I would water test that area only, just to confirm whether it is the source of the leak. If it is not then other areas of the roof should be tested working along the edges of the roof first. Then working backwards out from around the Chimney.

After the leak has been identified and waterproofed, then as another poster suggested, redo the inside area around the fireplace with marine grade drywall. Water leaks can be frustrating to track down. Before spending any more money on repairs, and as you do not wish to do the work yourself, use a well regarded contractor. Please do not do any more repair work without discovering the leak. It will most likely only cost you more in the long run.

This is all very logical and I agree.

The problem is I never see water inside. Ever. The ceiling and wall are never wet. I just see dry streaks and the paint on the concrete chimney is starting to ripple. How do you track down a leak when you never see the water!?
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #28 on: February 09, 2021, 08:39:34 AM »
Just throwing out a random thought.

Have you thought about getting someone to drop a camera down the chimney and inspect it from the inside?  How old is the house?  Maybe the mortar inside the chimney has deteriorated.
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Re: Trials and tribulations of owning a house
« Reply #29 on: February 09, 2021, 08:46:59 AM »
Just throwing out a random thought.

Have you thought about getting someone to drop a camera down the chimney and inspect it from the inside?  How old is the house?  Maybe the mortar inside the chimney has deteriorated.

Have not done that. I'd be really surprised if that turned out to be the problem though. It is a solid cinder block chimney covered in stucco. If water was getting inside the chimney, wouldn't I see signs of that inside the house, like water running or pooling inside the firebox? There is no moisture in there. It is bone dry.
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