Total war pharaoh - coming October

Started by Grim.Reaper, May 23, 2023, 04:08:17 PM

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SirAndrewD

And by Pharaoh they mean Medieval III right?

Right??
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Gusington

I am quite disappointed.

It's exactly like the memes say...the community begging for a new TW Medieval or Rome or Empire game and CA comes up with Pharaoh. A follow up to one of their least successful games, Troy.

Gonna pass on this one unless there is a DLC or expansion that covers Hellenistic Egypt.

Meh.


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SirAndrewD

Ancient warfare of this period isn't even that interesting. 

And I've studied and read on Kadesh, and Meggido. 

They'll stylize this, add all kinds of weird mythology, they won't do what actual pre classical ancient warfare looked like, which was large formations of conscripted peasants with wicker shields backed by a few nobles in cool stuff.

It's not an interesting era of warfare.  I'm sorry but it's not, not if they do it right.  Not in the Total War system.
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Sir Slash

My sentiments exactly...Booorring! Not even any decent Cavalry back then was there? They better come-up with something worth playing here or, I' going to, 'Walk-away like an Egyptian'.  :Loser:
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Destraex

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A really great idea that I doubt they can pull off well at all.
I would say this game will be very similar to total war troy.

There are loads of nice factions in this period but the further back you go the less you know of how they fight exactly.
Cavalry for instance would be rare in this period. Chariots and infantry are the mainstay.

I almost guarantee they will screw this one up. I just don't care that much about total war games anymore. They have not innovated in an way that furthers actual wargame mechanics in a very long time. Mechanics are too gamey on the stategic level and they keep going for the easy wins here, in the mean time the tactical level is dumbed down and their is no operational level... which is what they really should add.
Graphics are no draw for me in a total war game since they turned it into flag wars either. The battle of trafalgar in empire total war would be flag wars in total war warhammer for example.

Is this one of those mini total war games like troy?
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Grim.Reaper

No, it's considered a core historical game, not one of their smaller sagas.

I guess I'll be the different one, I'll certainly buy it and enjoy it for what it is, won't be any surprises for me as I know what to expect from these games but still have enough fun to warrant a purchase.

JasonPratt

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Until I know different, I dub thee Total War: PHAROAHAMMER!  :RockOn:

At the very least, it'll be a great tool for the modders.


To be fair, many of us, myself included, begged and pleaded for what seems like a few decades, for Three Kingdoms -- and then we got it! And I have not even tried to buy it yet.
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Destraex

Quote from: JasonPratt on May 24, 2023, 07:07:56 AMUntil I know different, I dub thee Total War: PHAROAHAMMER!  :RockOn:

At the very least, it'll be a great tool for the modders.


To be fair, many of us, myself included, begged and pleaded for what seems like a few decades, for Three Kingdoms -- and then we got it! And I have not even tried to buy it yet.
Is that because like me you have seen a decline rather than innovation and improvement in the tactical wargame and visual elements of total war games?
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JasonPratt

Honestly, no, I just don't play the system as much as I used to, with too many other shiny things attracting my attention (plus waiting for the inevitable bug patching).

I look for the modders to do innovation and improvement in the tactical and visual (and strategic) elements now anyway. As does CA, evidently!
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ArizonaTank

I certainly would not want to see one of those semi-historical games they have been putting out recently. I'd hate to see a laser beam emitting Ark of the Covenant being marched out onto the battlefield.

However, I would be interested in seeing a game similar to Richard Berg's GMT board game: "Genesis - Empires and Kingdoms of the Ancient Middle East"

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/86177/genesis-empires-and-kingdoms-ancient-middle-east
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JasonPratt

That was a pretty fun game we played, until we unlocked all the kit! -- would have run better live, I think. Lots of fiddling for asynch.
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Boggit

Quote from: Destraex on May 24, 2023, 07:39:46 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 24, 2023, 07:07:56 AMUntil I know different, I dub thee Total War: PHAROAHAMMER!  :RockOn:

At the very least, it'll be a great tool for the modders.


To be fair, many of us, myself included, begged and pleaded for what seems like a few decades, for Three Kingdoms -- and then we got it! And I have not even tried to buy it yet.
Is that because like me you have seen a decline rather than innovation and improvement in the tactical wargame and visual elements of total war games?
I think that is a fair comment. I suspect this will essentially be a reskin of TW: Troy. I hope I am mistaken.
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Gusington

^I don't think you are. I am at a low point now with new TW games. Thank God for modding of the old ones.


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SirAndrewD

Quote from: Gusington on May 24, 2023, 07:56:46 PM^I don't think you are. I am at a low point now with new TW games. Thank God for modding of the old ones.

CA actually just released a set of CPU patches for their older games that have broken all the old mods.   Many of those mods will never be updated again like Darthmod. 
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