This time it has a total war style campaign
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1634500/Company_of_Heroes_3__PreAlpha_Preview/
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1085556368
Playing the Company of Heroes 3 Preview by Quill18.
What do you think Pete?
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^ Actual combat game play looks a lot like CoH2.
I noticed Quill streaming last night but didn't have the time to watch the entire video. At least not enough to post my opinions about the campaign at this moment.
I was a bit surprised that the first thing I heard about this was your post and minutes later Twitch suggested that stream of a playable game by Quill.
So far the AI does not use tanks much. Which makes it a little easy in the battles I have fought so far.
I notice their is an mixed African American Bazooka unit for the Americans that a huge thread is in progress about on the forums. I have no problem with that. In fact I wish the devs went back to the coh2 commander model and made a commander that turned all your troops into African Americans so you could play the all African 92nd. That way it would be a little more realistic. The debate has made me interested to know what the percentage of African Troops was though. I think 1.2 million African Americans served in ww2, but only a tiny percentage of those were allowed into combat roles. It is hard to find statistics on how many actually fought as front line soldiers. I remember a movie about Hellcat Tank Destroyer units and Artillery units.
Not sure if you guys can see the thread.....
https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise/company-of-heroes-3/forums/1-general-discussion/threads/839-company-of-heroes-has-gone-woke?page=4#post-4573
Ok. Now the Company of Heroes 3 multiplayer alpha pre-download it up. Something is happening soon I guess.
Quote from: Destraex on November 29, 2021, 08:15:01 PM
Ok. Now the Company of Heroes 3 multiplayer alpha pre-download it up. Something is happening soon I guess.
Thought game release was targeted for late 2022 so not sure what else might be happening
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 29, 2021, 08:26:16 PM
Quote from: Destraex on November 29, 2021, 08:15:01 PM
Ok. Now the Company of Heroes 3 multiplayer alpha pre-download it up. Something is happening soon I guess.
Thought game release was targeted for late 2022 so not sure what else might be happening
Probably an alpha test run of the multiplayer portion of the game.
Yep. They are going to have side armour values this time around as well as breaching, which was in the last alpha.
You will be able to play vs the AI in the multiplayer alpha which is good.
Breaching reminds me a lot of Command and Conquer: Generals. Looking forward to this one now that I'm getting my RTS hat back on.
EDIT - Tactical pause in single player = YES PLEASE!
Still havent played 2 yet.. just sits in my steam library
Well the pre order for COH3 available and launch date in November some time.
I am sure I will get it at some point but not partial to pre-orders anymore. Especially at the $100-$135 they are asking.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1677280/Company_of_Heroes_3/
Quote from: Destraex on July 12, 2022, 09:12:31 PM
Well the pre order for COH3 available and launch date in November some time.
As we approach the November 17th launch date for Company of Heroes 3, our team has decided the game is not quite up to our players' or our own high standards. There still are bugs to squash, pixels to polish, gameplay to adjust and feedback to address.
As a result, we've decided to move the launch date to February 23rd, 2023. While we know many of you are itching to get your hands on the game, we believe this to be the best decision for CoH3, our players and our studio. This provides our hard-working team and partners with the necessary time to deliver CoH3 in a better overall state.
We are incredibly proud of the dedication our community has shown throughout CoH-Development. Your feedback has been critical in
these last stages of development and will continue to be a driver for our team for years to come.
Thank you for your support and patience,
The CoH3 team
https://twitter.com/CompanyOfHeroes/status/1577297241894789124
Welp, sounds like it's time for me to finish all the campaigns from the prior two games! :D
Quote from: Pete Dero on October 04, 2022, 12:06:43 PM
Quote from: Destraex on July 12, 2022, 09:12:31 PM
Well the pre order for COH3 available and launch date in November some time.
As we approach the November 17th launch date for Company of Heroes 3, our team has decided the game is not quite up to our players' or our own high standards. There still are bugs to squash, pixels to polish, gameplay to adjust and feedback to address.
As a result, we've decided to move the launch date to February 23rd, 2023. While we know many of you are itching to get your hands on the game, we believe this to be the best decision for CoH3, our players and our studio. This provides our hard-working team and partners with the necessary time to deliver CoH3 in a better overall state.
We are incredibly proud of the dedication our community has shown throughout CoH-Development. Your feedback has been critical in
these last stages of development and will continue to be a driver for our team for years to come.
Thank you for your support and patience,
The CoH3 team
https://twitter.com/CompanyOfHeroes/status/1577297241894789124
Yeah saw this. Hopefully they at least give us some kind of BETA in the mean time.
I am never a fan of games that try to do many platforms especially from games that are traditionally hard to play on consoles, in this case an RTS.
I am absolutely sure PC gamers miss out on would be features just from the fact that studios know they will be releasing on console at a similar time and not just as an afterthought that may or may not be possible later.
The FAQ so you guys can assess the damage and wasted time that will no doubt happen as a result of the natural and necessary collaboration with SEGAs console teams by Relic.
Still it is good to get the word out for the franchise I guess. Perhaps COH has reached it's peak and it's time to let it slide in favour of more PC niche games like WARNO.
I was silly enough to pre-order this, have it delayed and now have a console version announced. I loved the alpha, fingers crossed hey.
The console FAQ focuses heavily on the company line that the console version has not affected the PC version.
https://community.companyofheroes.com/coh-franchise-home/company-of-heroes-3/blogs/30-company-of-heroes-3-console-edition-faq
Bummer. I look forward to hearing your thoughts though. Thanks for taking one for the team :notworthy:
If you're burned on the Company of Heroes series, I can heartily recommend Men of War series instead. It's the same general concept but more geared towards grogs (or maybe I should've said micromanagers...). Not only can you directly control every soldier, gun and vehicle, but carrying over between battles is good.
The community is currently split between Men of War: Assault Squad 2 (original devs) and Call to Arms: Gates of Hell (3rd party devs). Try those if you want the multiplayer experience but if you're interested in singleplayer (and I think you are...) you can pick up Men of War: Assault Squad for around $5 right now and it'll run on anything.
Download the Dynamic Campaign Generator mod (they also have it for AS 2 and the original Men of War but those versions have issues) and enjoy the war. I've only ever finished one full campaign as a UK unit going from 1940 to 1953 (you can carry your unit over from campaign to campaign all the way to Korea) and it's without a doubt the best WW2 RTS experience I've had.
The attention to detail in terms of the campaigns, a mix of historical and random, the factions, vehicles and equipment is intense. Fun fact, if you play as the USSR you can buy squads in the early war that are horribly underequipped and are called something like 'raw meat', but since you can loot if you win a battle, you can equip your guys as you like and experiment. All SMG squads, put a sniper rifle in every squad, give everyone only pistols, etc.
I don't know if it's the vanilla game or the mod itself, but you can even remove and add crew served weapons on some of the vehicles. Capture a German halftrack, take off the MG42's and put 2 M1919's on it and so forth.
Quote from: Victor on December 21, 2022, 08:13:40 PM
If you're burned on the Company of Heroes series, I can heartily recommend Men of War series instead. It's the same general concept but more geared towards grogs (or maybe I should've said micromanagers...). Not only can you directly control every soldier, gun and vehicle, but carrying over between battles is good.
The community is currently split between Men of War: Assault Squad 2 (original devs) and Call to Arms: Gates of Hell (3rd party devs). Try those if you want the multiplayer experience but if you're interested in singleplayer (and I think you are...) you can pick up Men of War: Assault Squad for around $5 right now and it'll run on anything.
Download the Dynamic Campaign Generator mod (they also have it for AS 2 and the original Men of War but those versions have issues) and enjoy the war. I've only ever finished one full campaign as a UK unit going from 1940 to 1953 (you can carry your unit over from campaign to campaign all the way to Korea) and it's without a doubt the best WW2 RTS experience I've had.
The attention to detail in terms of the campaigns, a mix of historical and random, the factions, vehicles and equipment is intense. Fun fact, if you play as the USSR you can buy squads in the early war that are horribly underequipped and are called something like 'raw meat', but since you can loot if you win a battle, you can equip your guys as you like and experiment. All SMG squads, put a sniper rifle in every squad, give everyone only pistols, etc.
I don't know if it's the vanilla game or the mod itself, but you can even remove and add crew served weapons on some of the vehicles. Capture a German halftrack, take off the MG42's and put 2 M1919's on it and so forth.
I've always been totally baffled by the universe of mods availabe for MOWAS, probably in large part because many or most of them are primarily in Russian. Is there any kind of a roadmap to better understand them?
Quote from: CaptainKoloth on December 21, 2022, 10:14:20 PMI've always been totally baffled by the universe of mods availabe for MOWAS, probably in large part because many or most of them are primarily in Russian. Is there any kind of a roadmap to better understand them?
I can suggest Moddb as a good starting point for Assault Squad specifically, the newer ones in the series all work off of Steam workshop more or less.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dynamic-campaign-generator-dcg/downloads/dcg-v40-for-assault-squad-full
Is the one I was referring to, but like you said, there's quite a list for everything from Revolutionary War to HALO conversions too.
https://www.moddb.com/games/men-of-war-assault-squad/downloads
Quote from: Victor on December 21, 2022, 11:13:05 PM
Quote from: CaptainKoloth on December 21, 2022, 10:14:20 PMI've always been totally baffled by the universe of mods availabe for MOWAS, probably in large part because many or most of them are primarily in Russian. Is there any kind of a roadmap to better understand them?
I can suggest Moddb as a good starting point for Assault Squad specifically, the newer ones in the series all work off of Steam workshop more or less.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/dynamic-campaign-generator-dcg/downloads/dcg-v40-for-assault-squad-full
Is the one I was referring to, but like you said, there's quite a list for everything from Revolutionary War to HALO conversions too.
https://www.moddb.com/games/men-of-war-assault-squad/downloads
I can find and install them, the issue I have is parsing them. With most games you can get a pretty solid idea of what mods are good and how they all fit together. With MOWAS it's this endless list of stuff, most of which is half in Russian. Are they good? Are they realistic? Are they even finished? I for the most part can't make heads or tails of it, and have looked for some kind of primer or guide to them without success.
The first step is to determine what you're looking for in a mod. Total conversion? New OOBs? Overhaul on realism? There are so many great ones in all categories. If you search MOWAS and Call to Arms, you'll find a bunch of threads. Over time I've posted about some of my favorite mods.
Company of Heroes 3 January 11th - Multiplayer Tech Test.
If you buy now, do you get access to a current build, or is it only during designated test periods?
No. No access to the current build.
I would not be surprised though that if you have not pre-ordered you no longer get access to their limited play tests when they are scheduled.
Looks like the sign up for the multiplayer playtest is free for everybody.
You just have to press request access in steam then wait until the 11th I guess.
ok. Gameplay is not bad but I am really not impressed with what they have done with the coh3 graphics. Even at the best settings they look much worse than the previous preview game.
Hurts my eyes to try to see the low detail models when zoomed out and zoomed in the men just look like somebody painted on effects with a digital art pad brush.
Suspect performance had to be had for consoles later on or for the MP test. So close to release I don't know what they would be thinking trying this unless they could not knuckle down performance this late in the piece.
It just looks worse than coh2. It's probably hard to describe in screenshots. By the way people are already digging into the files and turning the graphics back up manually it seems.
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Disclaimer on this last one. This is how the tutorial showed up before I got to the main menu at all on first load. This did allow me to change graphics but they were all already on top... but obviously not for the tutorial. But you can see the method to how the models are drawn here and how they are simplified. I assume the LOD is changing like this (total war style which I hate) as I zoom out or is just blurred so much it blends into the terrain. The terrain is the worst part btw. The floor especially is horrible.
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I played the beta a little bit, just the single player mode. I don't really care to much about whether the graphics are great or not, more about the game play. And from what I can tell with my limited time so far, not sure this is a game I'll buy or not since it seems basically the same RTS game from the past. I am sure there are some changes in there somewhere, but I was probably hoping unrealistically it might have become more strategic and less hectic for my tastes. Not at all bashing the game for those people who enjoy this type of stuff, just not my cup of tea. I am sure my curiosity will get the best of me some day to purchase it regardless.
I know what you mean Grim. Company of Heroes is a sequel and thus it will be more of the same. Thus it follows COH3 will be as hectic as it's predescessors. It's for adreneline junkies that want the dopamine rush of combat rather than the cool hand luke that wants time to analyse everything. Like Tom Cruise said, if you think, you're dead.
It also follows that you need good clean graphics to be able to react fast enough and you want that hollywood visceral picture rather than icons on a board to feel that you are there and get that rush. That excitement. It's almost like a first person shooter but with a few more squads done from above. You are the troops on the ground as well as the company commander simultaneously. Animations as well are something that needs to be very well articulated so you can see what is going on, I like to see my men taking cover and then how they respond to the enemy, what effect it is having on them. The better the graphics the better I can tell what's going on while enjoying the cinematic experience.
I am enjoying it but I am finding a tonne of really simple mistakes in the UI. Same thing went for AOEIV.
For instance selecting a target for my squads rifle grenade deslects my squad forcing me to reselect it after firing. In an RTS like this you do not have time for those little inefficiencies. These sorts of things were not a problem in coh1 or 2. It's like they did not even play thier own games. Reminds me of the hollywood movie director that says he loves the source material for a movie but really just skimmed it and did his own thing and thus made a slew of mistakes.
Anyone gonna check this one out? Steam reviews are mixed as it's apparently fairly buggy.
Based on a number of people's reaction to the Great War: Western Front game having Denuvo DRM, I suspect people might not be jumping on this one because it also has it. Against my original comments on the game feeling the same during the testing, I picked it up anyway so eventually will give it a whirl when I have time. Figured I would eventually pick it up, so might as well be now even though I don't have high hopes for longevity.
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I for whatever reason never really had the other CoH games resonate with me, so I'll fence sit.
I splurged.
A humorous (sponsored) demonstration of the game upon release from iSorrow:
Really enjoying coh3. Here are some screenshots.
COH3 first impressions on release, which was 5am this morning. Some place holder icons still, a tiny but buggy still. Their is no difficulty below standard. In other words no easy setting for the AI. This tells me that the nanny goats had a hand in the game. Which is a shame. It tells me they are willing to treat consumers as id10ts.
However I am happy to report that the game is a load of fun and is hectic as a COH titles should be. Expect your brain to explode trying to play it on "tough" as a friend and I did from the get go. Still won both games though. Looks like battlegroups will be the thing that unlocks, but since everybody complains about unlocks and drops these days even if they are free, I think more battlegroups may be paid DLC. I just cannot imagine it being like that though, surely they will release battlegroups quarterly? Initially their are only three per side and that is that. It's really the hollywood animations and the really cool kit and voice overs/sound effects in company of heroes games that you play these titles for. The heart pounding thrill of reacting in panic like you were on a razors edge kind of like you would expect real combat to be like. Adrenaline pumped moments of action. Just that their is no time to "hurry up and wait". That was before the game and after ;)
EDIT: I just noticed their is a "store" button that is currently greyed out. Nothing to purchase atm and no idea how it would work. But I have to say I really don't mind that sort of thing sometimes as long as it is not pay to win. Because it keeps ongoing development churning along.
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The COH games have always been my favorite RTS of all time. COH 3 does not disappoint. Adding the Total War style Campaign Map is a welcome addition to the franchise. The gameplay is still trademark squad-based combat with the addition of the new breach mechanic which is a blast to watch. There is also the Afrika Korps eight mission campaign in the traditional form of past games.
There have been some complaints about the graphics not being up to par. On my rig they look fantastic. Detail is good and the color palette is much more in the style of COH 1. My big complaint about COH 2 was I always thought that the color dynamics were a little too oversaturated.
I have noticed that I've had to turn up the volume on the sound more than on the previous games. I also don't think the in-game explosions etc. are as audibly good as the previous games. I hope they improve on this feature. The building destruction FX are even better than previous games.
The bread-and-butter of COH for me has always been the Skirmish mode. I've played endless hours on great maps against the AI. Everything is the same with this feature. The Workshop is already up and running and I'd recommend DL the Pachino map for 2 players. Has a great layout of a village with a bridge in the middle. Good for playing against the AI.
Also DL the zoom-out mod too which enables a more comprehensive view of the battlefield.
Many of you probably know the info that follows but for those who haven't delved into the COH games as much here goes and the opinions are solely mine:
Company of Heroes 1
I play this mainly for the Campaigns which include US Airborne, British and Germans. I think they are the best campaigns ever created for any RTS I've ever played. Get these skirmish mods in order of my preference. They are all available for free DL on Steam:
1) Europe at War: Best mod overall for skirmish against the AI. Has a tank vs tank and infantry only mod. Many new maps as well as Desert skirmish maps with the DAK. The only mod that has an additional Ardennes SP Campaign.
2) Eastern Front: Obviously adds Russia to the game. Many great maps for skirmish play.
3) Battle of Crete: Small unit tactics with German Paras. Need I say more?
4) The Great War 1918: Trench warfare. No French forces. Get the expanded add-on from MODDB.
5) Modern Combat: Play as the USMC or regular US Army. Best skirmish map is Golmud City. Good urban warfare.
Note: Blitzkrieg Mod is not recommended as it is heavily weighted for MP.
COH 1 Mods: Zoom-out mod. This even works in the campaigns with a little configuration. Also Historical markings and vehicles mod. This adds flags and camos. Both on MODDB.
COH 1 Maps: Available on the COH 1 Steam Workshop and MODDB.
Company of Heroes 2
Never liked the campaign much, although some of the Theater of War missions were decent. The US Ardennes add-on was the best part of the game. The developer's first try at a strategic Campaign map. Will give you a run for the money as you go along.
Mods: Tuning packs for skirmish in order of preference:
1) Luftwaffe Angriff and SS Angriff by Adler. Great game balance and vehicle camos.
2) Spearhead. Another good if alternative take on COH2.
3) All Units. As it implies. Everything is available.
Note: I have not included the vaunted Wikinger Tuning Mod as I personally don't find it's playability as good as my recommended mods. I feel it is really more geared to MP.
Note also: None of the zoom-out mods work for COH 2. They work initially but once you do a save they don't.
Anyway I hope this post gives those of you who want to delve more into the COH world some incentive to try some of the previous games.
Sampstra has decided to demonstrate the Italian Campaign for CoH3! This is a 45ish minute video.
I really like coh3. But feel the the lobby interface screens lack polish and feel like they were tacked on with console in mind. I mean I cannot choose my server region for multiplayer coop\vs. My avatar seems to be stuck on the DLC one but I cannot find my profile to change it or view my stats. There are a lot of small things to polish in matches as well. For instance I am missing something or the medical vehicles turn off their auto re-enforce even though I turn it on. Usually I notice this after moving the vehicle. The german medical half track has a hand brake function while the british one does not. I changed team colors to unique colors and now I am a random color while a team mate ends up being blue, I forget and keep trying to move his men!! If I could choose my color like in AOEIV that would be fine. But otherwise most games tend to keep you the default color and change the other team colors by default. When I click on other players units I have no way of knowing it is not my unit, a lot of RTS games put the player name somewhere in the stats. After manning an enemy crewed weapon I never get shown how many kills I get with it. Lots of little strange things like that that seem to point to some team members not knowing the RTS standards for things.
The old COH staple of vehicles trying to fire through terrain causing me endless losses as those last hitpoints just don't come off that enemy vehicle wasting my infantry. Have to be very away of the terrain.
I agree though that it is still an outstanding game. They followed the formula well and it looks great as you can see from my screenshots. I love that it is bright and vibrant.
What I am missing though is that their seem to be so few maps. I think in total their are only 10 or so? Most of these probably small 1v1 ones. EDIT: Just counted and their are 14 skirmish maps in total. 5 x 1v1, 4 x 2v2, 3 x 3v3 and 2 x 4v4.
I am also not a fan of the digital sketch pad cut scenes. The stills that panning over somehow is arty farty. I find it cheap and quick looking. But it is all the rage these days since the more budget titles used it as a way to get by.
Bit disappointed I cannot man abandoned enemy vehicles. You recover them instead. It's not a big deal, was just nice.
As you would expect the steam forums are a battleground of gatekeepers vs trolls. People making outrageous claims without really taking the time to learn the game. People just expect to be good out of the gates. Both in terms of their skill level and the games polish. You just don't get that these days. After years in development investors want their money back I guess.
The reason I love company of heroes and to a much lesser extent men of war assault squad 2 is that unlike most wargames you get to invent strategies that are on the human level and are much more dynamic than most wargames can be. Most wargames have units and after that the limitation is flanking, terrain and all of the usual things like that. COH lets you create hospitals, build a pit to protect it and put an MG in it, then perhaps build a minefield around it with barbed wire and AT traps. My point is their are a tonne of things you can invent on the spot that it is unlikely many people have used as a combination yet. You put your own battlegroup together with what you need. This is the sort of thing strategy games especially miss with their, just send a stack with X equipment and win. No innovation. In coh games it often feels like the combination is different every time, the terrain or buildings you fight over individually usually tell a story as do the men through their expressions. The cover system and how you move them into a piece of cover is different everytime. It's formulaic but things are so fast and the pressure of the games combat gets your blood pumping. That's how the troops would feel right? Under pressure as the bullets fly. It's part of the realism and something that's appropriate in a wargame at the tactical level once combat is joined.
Artillery is still a huge bugbear in coh for me though. I hate micro managing artillery in coh. Eugen made that so darned nice I just want that system in coh.
Why am I yellow? Also that flak gun crewed by my brits has kill about 30 enemy guys. (edit, it worked in another game correctly) You can see it has XP but has not killed anything. I have seen tanks fall through bridges as they drive over them as well.
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I mean "motorcycle team" is correct where the game files are concerned I am sure. But Motorcycle Teams, would be more correct because you can produce more than one. It's just easy and informative to read when it's properly formatted. I mean they use a plural form for the Pioneers because their is more than one man in a squad, but tanks come out one at a time and thus are singular?
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I'm enjoying it too, but haven't played enough yet to develop any detailed impressions of likes and dislikes, other than the scale and range. Tank engagements all happen at nearly point blank range. I really dislike that. I wish the scale was a little smaller and the zoom wider to permit tank duels at more realistic feeling ranges. That's always been a COH thing so I'm not surprised. Still fun though. Don't really understand all the hate and aggravation.
@trek Have you noticed the British infantry barracks uses the same 1 2 3 4 sound from other COH games. Except in previous games it was the COH1 US infantry barracks sound iirc? Lots of re-used sounds and icon graphics I have noticed. Not such a bad thing as new ones no doubt would have been colored by new age sounding acting... in other words soft sounding people or over done sounding corny exagerration I am sorry to say.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 26, 2023, 03:42:14 AMI'm enjoying it too, but haven't played enough yet to develop any detailed impressions of likes and dislikes, other than the scale and range. Tank engagements all happen at nearly point blank range. I really dislike that. I wish the scale was a little smaller and the zoom wider to permit tank duels at more realistic feeling ranges. That's always been a COH thing so I'm not surprised. Still fun though. Don't really understand all the hate and aggravation.
You are right Jarhead. I agree that a trope of COH games is tiny tank ranges. However this coh game actually has fairly long ranges for a lot of units if you get other troops to see further out for them. The small tank ranges do keep things manageable within what the low camera allows you to see however.
That low camera zoom and angle has been a bane of the system since back in Dawn of War 1, when it debuted.
Meanwhile, following up from yesterday, Sampstra set up a video comparing CoH3 with TGW:West...
^ I wouldn't think it fair to compare them to each other... :headscratch:
Quote from: Gusington on February 26, 2023, 08:19:43 PM^ I wouldn't think it fair to compare them to each other... :headscratch:
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Still really enjoying this game but only two other friends have it atm. Very expensive game. Also the interface is still very buggy and a lot of things are very lazy, such as german icons being used with stukas depicted for allied air strikes and so forth. Some icons are still black in the after battle report. Sometimes things get stuck in the terrain. But generally it's a breath of fresh air. I really enjoy it. I watched an official video today to see if their was an easy way to retreat my men while also having vehicles which use the same hotkey for retreat. Nope, but I did get a young guy saying "you can turn on auto reinforce, but it will take resources off you without your permission" or something similar. I really wanted to reply saying, if I switched auto reinforce on, I kinda gave it permission to spend my resources. I mean I know what he meant, but does nobody speak clearly and concisely anymore in a way that literally anybody would have a hard time misunderstanding? I mean that's the aim of communication right? Schools must really be at an all time low these days when it comes to teaching best practice. I know, I know, I am just being an old man that shouts at the sky right? ;)
Enjoy the screenshots. P.S. The below shots with the bridges are from a mod map we played. Their are already a fare few of those. Still 14,000 people playing coh3 when we played as well. Not bad for an RTS that seems to be garnering a fair amount of negative attention.
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I cannot get excited about this title. I have the others and placed multiplayer and mods.
But just feels like the same game 😞 over again.
Fair enough. I love the game because it's like coh1 with modern graphics.
I just like the game in general because it's one that has a good variety of tactics and the atm atmosphere with all the voice overs reminds me of that old game Z. It's just a really immersive game series in so many ways.
Basically over the years I have gone back to COH titles with friends and never really stopped playing them. They have always been viable games and a favourite of my friends. So coh3 was a no brainer. However I do have friends that think as you do and would simply prefer to play the older titles. For me a game series I play so much and is so enjoyable is worth every penny even if it is mostly the same.
Quote from: Destraex on April 15, 2023, 12:29:30 AMFair enough. I love the game because it's like coh1 with modern graphics.
I just like the game in general because it's one that has a good variety of tactics and the atm atmosphere with all the voice overs reminds me of that old game Z. It's just a really immersive game series in so many ways.
Basically over the years I have gone back to COH titles with friends and never really stopped playing them. They have always been viable games and a favourite of my friends. So coh3 was a no brainer. However I do have friends that think as you do and would simply prefer to play the older titles. For me a game series I play so much and is so enjoyable is worth every penny even if it is mostly the same.
I can understand it, same with Civilization games, and few others for me. If you've put a lot of hours in you would want to play the latest and greatest.
Well COH3's path has certainly been rocky and reviews are mostly negative now. I am still enjoying it but am not a fan of the direction they are heading. That is to say making sounds more hollywood, take a look at this dev video at timestamp 28:38. Listen to the before and after .30 cal and tell me what you think. I mean sounds for weapons sound different depending on environment, quality of recording instruments, distance from gun you are etc etc. But it's hard to compare the .30 to the .50 when the .30 sounds this beefy?
I think I will be playing this for a long time yet and have an inkling that over time it will become coh2, what I mean by that is that coh2 took years to stabalise and then the community became fairly robust.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFEPmlOhG3M
They have 300+ employees and just lost 121
Half the staff gone
So even though they deny it I think it will affect COH3. I am hoping even though it sounds horrible that most of the staff made redundant were marketting and other interfering managerial style support staff
https://twitter.com/relicgames/status/1661060864651452416
I found the console release video very entertaining. I enjoy Al Murray's comedy on occasion. Plus he has a podcast that covers ww2 and thus has some interest in the subject at least. He kind of looks like Churchill now that I think about it.
Disclaimer: They did say they were joking and not to panic but...
This is a trend I suspected was in the game industry for a while now. Marketting departments having barely any interest in what they were supposed to be promoting and that could extend to the core game dev team. Well established franchises next big title being constructed by people that it's just a job for before they move on to the next thing. Mercenaries. In this case it's professional community managers, remember when they were chosen from super fans of the game? The community managers in this video seem like very nice people though, so there is hope for coh3's future. But I get the impression they are more caretakers than super invested.
Listening to a few of the community managers own wishes for skins with cat ears or gaudy colored skins which sounded horrible and more like an anime show. Some of my fears about the dev team and them not really being interested in their games historical setting have become clear. If they ever do non historically inspired skins I hope they give the community a way to filter them OFF. Having said this I would hate the devs to squander time on such a divisive thing. Keep in mind the devs did say skins are not the focus and will stay historically inspired "for now". But that these are the community managers tastes and it kind of disappoints but does not surprise me.
Hopefully they were just joking. But that would be a pretty silly thing to do given the state of the community.
Like I said these are just them playing around I think. Timestamp 9:52.
:doh: :undecided:
I think goofy skins were pretty late in CoH2, but I know some players enjoy them; they're totally optional, and intended for skirmishing/mp.
Considering their CoH2 popularity, I'm not surprised if they're implemented sooner rather than later in CoH3.
They are not optional if one plays multiplayer and has to see them...
I don't remember any really goofy skins but mainly played coop. I remember some though that were mods rather than official skins though.
Oh, that's a good point: I'm not sure if players have the option not to see other players' custom skins per se. (I only played with friends, none of whom had custom skins.)
Quote from: JasonPratt on July 03, 2023, 08:13:52 AMOh, that's a good point: I'm not sure if players have the option not to see other players' custom skins per se. (I only played with friends, none of whom had custom skins.)
Yeah, COH is really great fun coop with friends. But do play multiplayer vs occasionally.
Just the other day my friend who was the group leader accidentally took us into a VS match instead of coop. A rude shock as we then had to come to full attention and concentrate. We did win that one surprisingly.
Back to the point though. I want to see all the historical skins or at least historically inspired ones. Having ridiculous willy wonker and the chocolate factory land skins would just turn the game from gritty to anime for me. Unfortunately relic are kinda part the way their with thier choice of interface and team colours. No idea why these days people don't appreciate good old solid colours. I prefered coh when the team colours were a little more muted.
New COH3 patch and two new maps and some really basic stats profile page. I was hoping for a few avatar changes and some new skins or battlegroups. I've played this game to death already. Love it.
Also a plethora of gameplay changes and fixes.. really underwhelming. But I guess the game will be more enjoyable to play?
So Destraex... what's the verdict here? Is COH3 worth picking up, on sale or otherwise?
I have to admit I've inexplicably found myself in hot, passionate need of a good World War 2 RTS. Something that's not quite as heady as Combat Mission, not as old as COH2 or the 2D Close Combat games, and not as awful as Close Combat: The Bloody First.
Does this content strike anybody as a $17usd expansion from a company of heroes game?
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What really gets me is that amazon skins are paywall yet people who don't have amazon but paid for the expansion in the pre-order versions are having the only usable content (the two battlegroups) for skirmish and multiplayer "core" player base given away for free through merits. For me this is just a slap in the face.
I expected a tonne more content than we are getting, but then having paid for it to have the only parts I did want given away is heart wrenching. I basically get nothing for my money. This expansion should have been a free update with the real expansion to come.
This is going to upset even the most loyal fans I imagine. The ones who cared enough to buy the higher tier pre-order bundles but are now getting nothing "special" other than a few incomplete skin sets (that will probably be given away later through merits where the amazon ones will not) and a campaign battlegroup that will be useless for most of us staple skirmish and multiplayer community types.
The whole expansion amounts to a few DLC trinkets. It's an absolute travesty.
This so called expansion makes me fear for the games future. Makes me wonder if these expansion items are just what could be scrounged up from hoarded left over assets from original production?
Quote from: al_infierno on September 12, 2023, 11:02:58 PMSo Destraex... what's the verdict here? Is COH3 worth picking up, on sale or otherwise?
I have to admit I've inexplicably found myself in hot, passionate need of a good World War 2 RTS. Something that's not quite as heady as Combat Mission, not as old as COH2 or the 2D Close Combat games, and not as awful as Close Combat: The Bloody First.
I understand Call to Arms add-on Gates of Hell fits roughly what you're describing, but I've not played it
I can state without reservation that CTA: Gates of Hell is f*cking awesome.
Quote from: al_infierno on September 12, 2023, 11:02:58 PMSo Destraex... what's the verdict here? Is COH3 worth picking up, on sale or otherwise?
I have to admit I've inexplicably found myself in hot, passionate need of a good World War 2 RTS. Something that's not quite as heady as Combat Mission, not as old as COH2 or the 2D Close Combat games, and not as awful as Close Combat: The Bloody First.
Sorry for the late reply. I still enjoy COH3, however not sure how much support it will get moving forward as the playerbase is really very low. I still think modern games are a little watered down though, like the passion is diluted by modern staffing. If combat mission had better multiplayer modes I would probably be giving this a miss. But it does not and combat mission does not have the movie like animations and gameplay. The responsiveness and personality of the soldiers.
New features coming to coh3 in the next patch including two new battlegroups including an australian one (the other one is Afrika Korp). The poor new zealanders who were more active in italy after the desert have missed out for now. Also more maps and rewards. A surrender feature and all campaign missions being playable individually.
Love it. Going to be a good patch.
I almost forgot the big one. We can now choose our coop matchmaking difficulty level. That was sorely needed hard is a minimum for me in this game (same as WARNO).
As you are probably all aware, SEGA dropped coh3 devs relic and so this is either a last ditch effort or the start of a concentrated effort with some real resources poured into coh3. Time will tell.
Well I can say now that I am really enjoying the latest patch. I might be a little biased because of the Aussies though. We have found that expert AI is the best AI to play against. Expert gives the best challenge and frantic feel of the previous titles in the series.
I love the little challenges you can do in each match. The new type they have called accolades has me intrugued.
With the Aussies the Brits now have a coh1 feel to them. What I mean by this is the Aussie battlegroup allows machinegun nests, bofors emplacements as well as 17pdr emplacements to be built. That along with heavier cover to be built. They are called sangars and have really good frontal protection and cannot be destroyed by light vehicles.
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