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Digital Gaming => Computer Gaming => Topic started by: Grim.Reaper on May 15, 2021, 04:07:52 AM

Title: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 15, 2021, 04:07:52 AM
Quick overview video….looking forward to this one later in the year.


Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: MOS:96B2P on May 15, 2021, 11:26:44 AM
Sounds interesting.  From what I can tell it sounds like individual battles (scenarios).  I wonder if there is an actual campaign?  If you could start in 1965 with the American intervention (or wherever the players interest is) and fight linked scenarios (campaign) this might be really cool. 

I think a Vietnam campaign was created for the Operational Art of War but I've not got around to downloading and playing it.  Maybe something I should do while keeping an eye on this one.     

I found the below information on Matrix.

Campaign Series Vietnam introduces a wide variety of new units with special capabilities, such as helicopters, riverine units, tunnel rats, civilians, and supply units. New tactical realities include flight limitations, no-go zones, IEDs and hidden minefields, tunnels, and unconventional warfare.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: JasonPratt on May 20, 2021, 11:56:50 AM
The original version of the Campaign Series did include historical and dynamic campaigns, but I'm fuzzy about whether the new series has done so in its first game (set during the modern Israeli-Arab wars).

I think Groghead member Crossroads is a dev working on the series, so he should be around soon to provide details.  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 20, 2021, 12:09:43 PM
Would seem kind of silly if a game called "Campaign Series Vietnam" didn't ship with an actual campaign. If that is the case, perhaps the name should be changed to "Scenario Series Vietnam"?
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: W8taminute on May 20, 2021, 01:02:34 PM
I'm looking forward to this game as well.  I do hope it comes with a campaign.  What I really want is a digitized version of this but with an Ai not a Vassal mod.

https://www.gmtgames.com/p-911-vietnam-1965-1975-gmt-edition.aspx

(https://www.gmtgames.com/images/product/medium/911.jpg)
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Jason Petho on May 21, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
Until we rebuild the Campaign system (it is effectively broken at the moment), which is coming later, we will be offering "A Week In..." series of scenarios in lieu of the traditional campaigns.

"A Week In..." style of scenarios will have you commanding a brigade sized unit during a week, (350 turns - 7 days), where you will be given daily tasks that need to be completed.

For example, "A Week In The Mekong" focuses on the Riverine unit based at My Tho and might look something like this:

Day 1:
   Welcome to My Tho
   3rd/47th at My Tho
   4th/47th at Riverine base
   3rd/60th at Riverine base
Day 1 Missions:
3rd/60th Company x 1 advance towards Tan Hiep airfield, secures it for future helicopter operations, remaining at My Tho – will remain here overnight (Relieved Day 2 by elements 7th ARVN)
3rd/47th secures area directly north of riverine base – between canal, QL4, My Tho – ordered to return to base
   4th/47th secures Tho Son island (south of base) – ordered to return to base

Day 2
   3rd/47th at My Tho
   4th/47th at Riverine base
   3rd/60th at Riverine base
Day 2 Missions
   3rd/60th Company x 1 returns to My Tho

   3rd/60th remainder securing My Tho and Riverine Base (can rescue Company x 1)
      Company x 1 with Engineers road clearing QL4 to Khiem Ich (Cai Lay – 40,75)

3rd/47th & 4th/47th sweep east “island” and town of Ap Tan Thuong – Returns to base after mission.

and so on.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: hellfish6 on May 21, 2021, 10:50:42 AM
I really like that idea.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: devoncop on May 21, 2021, 11:52:11 AM
I really like that idea.

Me too ( to coin a much misused phrase😉)

It gives the player great attachment to their command in such a mini campaign and increases immersion hugely.



Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: demjansk1942 on May 21, 2021, 01:49:41 PM
What’s broken?.....  some issue with code?  I was looking forward to the game
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Jason Petho on May 21, 2021, 02:04:45 PM
Yes, the Campaign code is broken at the moment, it will be fixed, just not in time for the CSVN 1.00 to be released.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: demjansk1942 on May 21, 2021, 03:10:32 PM
Thanks Jason hope you get it working to your satisfaction
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Jason Petho on May 21, 2021, 03:15:53 PM
Yes, most definitely, it will be redone - since we have the opportunity to do so, to make it far more interesting.

There will still be ample content to play with CSVN 1.00 and, as always, it comes with the full suite of editors to make your own scenarios.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: berto on May 21, 2021, 05:30:36 PM
Little known fact:  John Tiller did not code the campaign front-end (and scenario launcher, etc.) to the Campaign Series.  John wrote the core game engine and editors.  The campaign EXE was written by an unheralded, long forgotten Talonsoft programmer.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: JasonPratt on May 21, 2021, 08:25:34 PM
"A Week In..." style of scenarios will have you commanding a brigade sized unit during a week, (350 turns - 7 days), where you will be given daily tasks that need to be completed.

ACCEPTABLE!!  :D :D :D :D :smitten:
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Jason Petho on May 21, 2021, 08:46:16 PM
Glad to hear you like the idea!

I'll make sure to make it fun and interesting!
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: demjansk1942 on May 22, 2021, 03:04:57 AM
I don’t play the Middle East version much but this should be a good game
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Crossroads on May 22, 2021, 04:19:42 AM
The original version of the Campaign Series did include historical and dynamic campaigns, but I'm fuzzy about whether the new series has done so in its first game (set during the modern Israeli-Arab wars).

I think Groghead member Crossroads is a dev working on the series, so he should be around soon to provide details.  :notworthy:

That's correct, Jason, there are two different types of campaigns as you recall.

First, the Linked Campaigns, which are manually created by the scenario designer. These consist of a select number of scenarios, and a certain pathway around them depending on your success, or failure, per each scenario completed in the campaign. Casualties carry over as well, so can't go all gung-ho there. Once we have the Lua based CS Event Engine available here as well, these should be a complete hoot.

Then, the Dynamic Campaigns that are auto generated by the dynamic campaign generator. Here, the designer does not create any scenarios as such, but sets the paratemets as how it flows. Each one scenario is then generated within the campaign per the Dynamic Battle Generator engine you might recall from the John Tiller Campaign Series. I wrote a Developer Diary of how to create Dynamic Campaigns (https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3643689) a few years back (A "few years?" In 2014! Yikes!).  These are way cool as well.

Once the Dynamic Campaigns are migrated to latest standards, the individual Dynamic Battle Generator for individual battles should be available as well. I wrote a Dev Diary on those (https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=3610165) way back then as well.   

Alas, both need a fair bit of TLC yet before available. Thank you for your patience!
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Crossroads on August 27, 2021, 11:16:13 AM
 8)

(http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/12395/828C17F8DBE14EA9AFB1399072560F48.jpg)
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Crossroads on August 27, 2021, 11:19:28 AM
Project hand-off to Matrix Games at the end of October... Wish us luck!
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 27, 2021, 11:34:45 AM
Project hand-off to Matrix Games at the end of October... Wish us luck!

Great, this is definitely on my list to purchase.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: al_infierno on August 27, 2021, 11:51:47 AM
 <:-)
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Jarhead0331 on August 27, 2021, 11:52:21 AM
Project hand-off to Matrix Games at the end of October... Wish us luck!

Tell Paolo to give us press code!
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Crossroads on August 27, 2021, 12:22:50 PM
Project hand-off to Matrix Games at the end of October... Wish us luck!

Tell Paolo to give us press code!

 O0

Exciting times, still plenty to do, but can almost smell the napalm in the morning now...
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: devoncop on August 27, 2021, 12:43:02 PM
Most anticipated game for me.

Brilliant news.

Fingers crossed for you.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Gusington on August 27, 2021, 01:20:27 PM
Good look Crossroads!
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Crossroads on August 27, 2021, 01:24:37 PM
Thanks for your support guys! Little by little we can start posting more sneak peeks etc I am sure. 
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: z1812 on August 27, 2021, 02:32:57 PM
I too am looking forward to this. The linked scenario  system sounds very interesting.

There is a lot more information and screenshots here.   https://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4661692
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: gregb41352 on August 27, 2021, 05:56:38 PM
Day 1 buy for me.  Most anticipated game in awhile.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Dammit Carl! on August 27, 2021, 06:13:58 PM
Day. 1. Buy. For. Damn. Sure.

Thanks to any and all who've worked on that and given further life to the series.

Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: al_infierno on August 27, 2021, 07:31:31 PM
+1 to the last few comments.  Feels like I've been waiting ages on this one.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: MikeGER on August 28, 2021, 04:59:37 AM
Want  :D
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Crossroads on September 06, 2021, 03:23:30 AM
Here's a little sneak peek of the game. As per the era covered, there'll be a good few French Indochina War scenarios in addition to early US involvement (and Vietnamese Civil War in between). I am mostly involved at the moment with programming CS Event Engine stuff to Indochina War scenarios by David Galster.

Here's a playtest turn 5 of 15 of Operation Tulipe, kicking of the Hoa Binh campaign (with two scenarios available, this one, and Operation Lotus). Things of note perhaps since CS: Middle East v2.0 

This is obviously the 2D side of things, with the Zoom-in view and NATO symbols on chits (can be unit images as well). There's the 3D view still there as well.

Screenshot from my 3440:1440 monitor:

(http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/upfiles/32195/53BB10A68F84467FB4225BB1404586EF.jpg)

Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: devoncop on September 06, 2021, 10:03:42 AM
 Looks magnificent and very refreshing to see less popular facets of the Indo China war being depicted.

Really looking forward to some pre release AAR's like you did for the CSME  :)

No pressure..... ;)
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Gusington on September 06, 2021, 11:26:38 AM
^+1, looks slick.
Title: Re: Campaign Series Vietnam
Post by: Crossroads on September 06, 2021, 01:33:02 PM
Thanks guys. I am planning to write a couple of Dev diaries at some stage, one about how to add Lua files to scenarios, as that's where the CS Event Engine stuff interacting with the game engine resides. Lua files are not mandatory, one can build new scenarios with the full set of Editors just like previously, but events and other Lua code do add some neat capabilities there.

Any other particulars you guys would like to see?