Hadnt heard of the below before - there is a demo
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1363740/The_Troop/
Looks promising.
I'll try the demo tomorrow.
That looks quite interesting. Thanks for bringing it to my attention!
I saw a YouTube video of this last week. This game does look interesting.
I'll be following it. Fingers crossed.
Quote from: Zulu1966 on October 15, 2021, 04:51:34 PM
Hadnt heard of the below before - there is a demo
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1363740/The_Troop/
Thanks for the tip. i played half the demo and it was quite good.
It looks like something I might like besides panzer Corp.
There will never be too many WWII tactical games....
Tried the demo.
Sounds are amazing as are the action sequences during firing and hitting or missing. But we don't have other effects like track movment and the hex style janks and turns are really evident in the pathing. Still the game is fun and has some really nice atmosphere. Wish it was WEGO and wish Combat Mission had these modern sounds and effects.
I still need to test the infantry. They look fine but remind me of combat mission style "everybody take a knee" kinda immersion. Stick to a hex and don't spread out.
I played three of the missions this morning... pretty good stuff... I have a few issues with it... the biggest one being that this is one of those fight to the death games. Pretty much every unit keeps fighting until the last man is dead. Also, sometimes cover does not seem to be very effective. So the infantry fights were about 80% casualties, and my guys kept on going. In one scenario, I had my last guy fighting the last German, trading shots until the German got lucky. But the Game does warn you it is a game and not a simulation...
Still, I had more fun with it than I have with Lock 'n Load or even one of Tiller's squad games.
I just hope they put the rest of the package together well. Scenario and map builder would cap it for me...but I suspect we won't see them. Dynamic campaign ala Close Combat series would be wonderful as well.
Anyway, looking forward to this one. Hopefully they price it reasonably.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on October 17, 2021, 11:14:41 AM
I played three of the missions this morning... pretty good stuff... I have a few issues with it... the biggest one being that this is one of those fight to the death games. Pretty much every unit keeps fighting until the last man is dead. Also, sometimes cover does not seem to be very effective. So the infantry fights were about 80% casualties, and my guys kept on going. In one scenario, I had my last guy fighting the last German, trading shots until the German got lucky. But the Game does warn you it is a game and not a simulation...
Still, I had more fun with it than I have with Lock 'n Load or even one of Tiller's squad games.
I just hope they put the rest of the package together well. Scenario and map builder would cap it for me...but I suspect we won't see them. Dynamic campaign ala Close Combat series would be wonderful as well.
Anyway, looking forward to this one. Hopefully they price it reasonably.
It is built in Unity, but they seem to have bought the high-end license so the price is likely to be the usual 30 bucks for the base game plus 10 per DLC. A midrange game in terms of cost I would guess.
I really like the flow and atmosphere. Not immersive (which is a nice break after Enlisted, where something has to be done every eleven seconds with bodies falling and bombs
going off all the time), but you feel
like every move makes some difference.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on October 17, 2021, 11:14:41 AM
I played three of the missions this morning... pretty good stuff... I have a few issues with it... the biggest one being that this is one of those fight to the death games. Pretty much every unit keeps fighting until the last man is dead. Also, sometimes cover does not seem to be very effective. So the infantry fights were about 80% casualties, and my guys kept on going. In one scenario, I had my last guy fighting the last German, trading shots until the German got lucky. But the Game does warn you it is a game and not a simulation...
Still, I had more fun with it than I have with Lock 'n Load or even one of Tiller's squad games.
I just hope they put the rest of the package together well. Scenario and map builder would cap it for me...but I suspect we won't see them. Dynamic campaign ala Close Combat series would be wonderful as well.
Anyway, looking forward to this one. Hopefully they price it reasonably.
Maybe we can hope they put a morale system in later.
Quote from: glen55 on October 18, 2021, 12:01:52 PM
Quote from: ArizonaTank on October 17, 2021, 11:14:41 AM
I played three of the missions this morning... pretty good stuff... I have a few issues with it... the biggest one being that this is one of those fight to the death games. Pretty much every unit keeps fighting until the last man is dead. Also, sometimes cover does not seem to be very effective. So the infantry fights were about 80% casualties, and my guys kept on going. In one scenario, I had my last guy fighting the last German, trading shots until the German got lucky. But the Game does warn you it is a game and not a simulation...
Still, I had more fun with it than I have with Lock 'n Load or even one of Tiller's squad games.
I just hope they put the rest of the package together well. Scenario and map builder would cap it for me...but I suspect we won't see them. Dynamic campaign ala Close Combat series would be wonderful as well.
Anyway, looking forward to this one. Hopefully they price it reasonably.
Maybe we can hope they put a morale system in later.
There is a kind of morale system. Fire teams and tank crews can be suppressed or stunned. The AI side will bail or retreat when things look bad as can you. Bailing reduces the morale impact of a knocked out tank. Nice touch really. Plus there's an overall morale level. If too many teams or vehicles get eliminated...game over, you retreat. Same for the AI. There's also the aiming chances, even without suppression, if you're turning to get on target, your hit chances go down. sort of a morale effect of sorts.
I'd like to see opportunity fire added in. I'd also like a bit more feedback regarding cover and concealment for each hex. As others have mentioned, it doesn't always seem like your squads are getting the cover you'd expect in some hexes.
Anybody else getting their ass handed to them in the "here they come!" scenario? My M10s get brewed up every single time, no matter how far back I place them.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on October 18, 2021, 04:19:07 PM
I'd like to see opportunity fire added in. I'd also like a bit more feedback regarding cover and concealment for each hex. As others have mentioned, it doesn't always seem like your squads are getting the cover you'd expect in some hexes.
Anybody else getting their ass handed to them in the "here they come!" scenario? My M10s get brewed up every single time, no matter how far back I place them.
I think it is a fun game, but definitely needs a few more things to make the game really special.
The interplay of units and enemy reminds me of XCOM2...however as SDR says, "The Troop" is missing an over-watch / opportunity fire command, that is essential in XCOM2.
Agree, the "Here they come" scenario is pretty one-sided the way it works now. The Germans rarely miss, even when the Brits are in what seems to be concealment.
The Brits however seem to be able to hit only about 1/3 of the time, even under good firing conditions. One of the biggest handicaps of the scenario is the limited number of locations the Brits can deploy their tanks to. Maybe if the scenario let you set up anywhere on the Brit side of the board, the Brits might get better results.
In addition to an over-watch command, a shoot and scoot command would do wonders as well.
Finally beat the scenario.
Tried staying hidden as much as possible and only firing with the Shermans when I had a flank shot.
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on October 18, 2021, 06:10:49 PM
Finally beat the scenario.
Tried staying hidden as much as possible and only firing with the Shermans when I had a flank shot.
I'll have to try that.
I tried it. Hid in the orchard mostly. Took every possible shot even with Shermans (but at the hull if I had the choice). Had some very lucky hits and misses. Only lost one M10 and had zero personnel loses (the crew bailed when the gun was knocked out and then the Germans finished the TD with a barrage of wasted shots, plus the smoke was extremely helpful versus approaches on the road to the orchard). Whew! After 8-9 tries!
The Troop was released today into early access.....$40. I'll probably hold off a bit as I am not sure I'll get that value out of it.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1363740/The_Troop/
The price point is a real surprise. It's well outside the mark of other games in its class/genre, particularly for early access. There seems to be a lot of surprise and disappointment over the price in the forums and in gaming facebook groups. There was a lot of excitement over this release and the price appears to have killed much of it. I think the developers made a fairly large mistake here and have turned off a lot of potential buyers. Would have been an instant buy in the $19 - $24 range.
Anybody tried the Demo?
Quote from: Sir Slash on December 22, 2021, 11:23:50 AM
Anybody tried the Demo?
A couple posted earlier in thread
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 22, 2021, 09:16:24 AM
The price point is a real surprise. It's well outside the mark of other games in its class/genre, particularly for early access. There seems to be a lot of surprise and disappointment over the price in the forums and in gaming facebook groups. There was a lot of excitement over this release and the price appears to have killed much of it. I think the developers made a fairly large mistake here and have turned off a lot of potential buyers. Would have been an instant buy in the $19 - $24 range.
+1, instant buy at $25.... Doesn't seem feature rich enough to warrant $40. In holding pattern as well...
Oh my. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, I don't mind spending on new games, I'm a game whore, but that Demo isn't going to convince me to drop $40.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on December 22, 2021, 02:21:00 PM
Oh my. Yeah, I agree.
I mean, I don't mind spending on new games, I'm a game whore, but that Demo isn't going to convince me to drop $40.
There's more options and scenarios:
20% off now, but I'll need that to be more for me to buy. Demo was fun though, but with Second Front coming out in a month...... :D
Quote from: acctingman on December 30, 2022, 10:44:52 PM
20% off now, but I'll need that to be more for me to buy. Demo was fun though, but with Second Front coming out in a month...... :D
There's Fireflies:
:D
Quote from: MengJiao on December 31, 2022, 12:55:38 PM
Quote from: acctingman on December 30, 2022, 10:44:52 PM
20% off now, but I'll need that to be more for me to buy. Demo was fun though, but with Second Front coming out in a month...... :D
There's Fireflies:
Curse you!! :knuppel2:
Fine.....
I picked it up during the sale. Still cost more than I initially thought this game should have been listed for, but so far I'm enjoying it. I'm only three missions in to the campaign, but so far, it feels like a pretty light strategy title that plays out fairly quickly. I mean this as a positive comment since these days I sometimes struggle to get into the deeper, more complex titles in the genre.
Yeah, it's a bit much on the price but I really did enjoy the simplicity of the demo.
Enjoying the full game so far.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on January 02, 2023, 05:06:26 PM
Yeah, it's a bit much on the price but I really did enjoy the simplicity of the demo.
Enjoying the full game so far.
There's a lot of period flavour -- for example, 21 Panzer really does have an interesting array of re-engineered French vehicles. A lot of the more interesting vehicles are in the
optional extras for the platoons and troops.
Quote from: MengJiao on January 02, 2023, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on January 02, 2023, 05:06:26 PM
Yeah, it's a bit much on the price but I really did enjoy the simplicity of the demo.
Enjoying the full game so far.
There's a lot of period flavour -- for example, 21 Panzer really does have an interesting array of re-engineered French vehicles. A lot of the more interesting vehicles are in the
optional extras for the platoons and troops.
Now that I'm back at work, it's become a great purchase. Excellent game to make the work day get over with faster.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on January 03, 2023, 02:09:26 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on January 02, 2023, 07:35:25 PM
Quote from: SirAndrewD on January 02, 2023, 05:06:26 PM
Yeah, it's a bit much on the price but I really did enjoy the simplicity of the demo.
Enjoying the full game so far.
There's a lot of period flavour -- for example, 21 Panzer really does have an interesting array of re-engineered French vehicles. A lot of the more interesting vehicles are in the
optional extras for the platoons and troops.
Now that I'm back at work, it's become a great purchase. Excellent game to make the work day get over with faster.
LoL...Don't you have to, like, do work during the work day?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 03, 2023, 03:07:54 PM
LoL...Don't you have to, like, do work during the work day?
Why on earth would I ever do something as boring as that?
That's what my assistant is for.
^Such a good answer.
Everyone can play attractive free games at SPAM , wish you a pleasant experience
^ I'll take my free Spam in sandwich form please, on cheap generic bread with Kraft processed American cheese washed down with a 2 liter of Dr. Wham Thunder.
I want the attractive SPAM assistants waiting on me hand and foot whilst I game away pleasantly.
I want StaceyTate to show us her boobies :ThumbsUp:
Quote from: acctingman on March 16, 2023, 02:09:14 PMI want StaceyTate to show us her boobies :ThumbsUp:
If she doesn't I will.
:privatedancer:
Now it's a party.
Quote from: Gusington on March 16, 2023, 07:51:40 PMNow it's a party.
Well, the party don't start till Gus walks in.
You are too kind. I was hoping there would be news here on discounts or DLC for The Troop...oh well :embarrassed:
You guys are pervs.
But not in the good way.
I believe that was the original qualification for membership here. I recall scoring the highest possible score on the initial application. Can't remember who finally beat me out?
Considering that the spambots represent "the internet", I'm going to bet on the bots scoring the highest on that qualification. :HideEyes:
Guess I'll have to, 'Up My Game' then won't I? :lipsrsealed:
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on March 18, 2023, 01:34:47 AMYou guys are pervs.
But not in the good way.
Just spent an extended weekend with my girlfriend and she does NOT agree on the not in a good way part.
:rolleyes:
You know...I'm still gaming away pleasantly but I have yet to be waited on by a loverly SPAM assistant. What gives?
Could be you're not, 'perv' enough W8. You still have time though.
Quote from: Sir Slash on March 23, 2023, 12:53:03 PM:rolleyes:
Two Tigers in Trouble:
Two Tigers in Trouble.jpg
ACTUAL CONTENT FOR THE WIN!! :ThumbsUp:
Second Front is better, but I'm glad I have both.