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Offline CJReich46

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VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« on: May 21, 2021, 01:19:56 PM »
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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2021, 01:23:31 PM »
It's about time!
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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2021, 01:59:40 PM »
Now i have to play Victoria 2 as well!

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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2021, 02:31:25 PM »
Interesting.  I don't know that I trust modern Paradox to pull this off, being honest.  The claims of "no mana" sound promising, but I'm going to be holding my excitement until we see some actual gameplay.  I do wonder how they cracked the problem of nobody knowing how the economy worked in the original game, or if they just made a whole new system from scratch.
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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2021, 08:27:10 PM »
I'm excited for this.

Even with all of their flaws I still like the games Paradox puts out. I agree with the consensus that going public probably wasn't the best decision for them but the video game industry is tough.

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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2021, 08:42:53 PM »
Interesting.  I don't know that I trust modern Paradox to pull this off, being honest.  The claims of "no mana" sound promising, but I'm going to be holding my excitement until we see some actual gameplay.  I do wonder how they cracked the problem of nobody knowing how the economy worked in the original game, or if they just made a whole new system from scratch.
I like the idea, but like you I'm cautious as Paradox seem to have some serious problems at the moment. If they can pull it off and better than Vicky2 then I will be very excited about  it.
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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2021, 11:31:09 PM »
I do wonder how they cracked the problem of nobody knowing how the economy worked in the original game, or if they just made a whole new system from scratch.

Considering that they included a modified form of it in Imperator, I can't say I'm optimistic about this. ;)

Fortunately, the economy tended to work itself in Vicky2, at least in my experience.
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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2021, 11:36:33 PM »

Fortunately, the economy tended to work itself in Vicky2, at least in my experience.

Assuming you restarted the game semi-regularly....  :buck2:
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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2021, 08:28:36 AM »
Would like to see where they go with this title, after Crusader Kings 3 I have high expectations for it.

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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2021, 07:44:03 PM »
"Considering that they included a modified form of it in Imperator, I can't say I'm optimistic about this. ;)"

I have zero confidence that Paradox will get this right.  I'm glad they're finally doing Vic 3 but after Imp.Rome
and Empire of Sin I just don't know about Paradox anymore.  They seem to be drifting.

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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2021, 09:20:55 PM »
"Considering that they included a modified form of it in Imperator, I can't say I'm optimistic about this. ;)"

I have zero confidence that Paradox will get this right.  I'm glad they're finally doing Vic 3 but after Imp.Rome
and Empire of Sin I just don't know about Paradox anymore.  They seem to be drifting.
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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2021, 10:27:31 PM »
I'm a bit worried that they're going to try to sanitize much of the history in order to appeal to present day morality and avoid controversy now that they're publicly traded.


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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2021, 11:39:35 PM »
I'm a bit worried that they're going to try to sanitize much of the history in order to appeal to present day morality and avoid controversy now that they're publicly traded.

Paradox have dropped the ball a couple of times recently but I don't think CK3 could be said to have adjusted its gameplay mechanics to "sanitize much of the history to appeal to modern day morality" given the commonplace incest and familial murder plots !

I never played Vicky 1 or 2 though have just picked up Vicky 2 for a song to try and learn some mechanics and get into the game before Vicky 3 arrives. It is a period of history I love so I have no idea why I passed it by.
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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2021, 09:44:03 AM »
I have zero expectations given the trend of Paradox lately, but I will say they are at least saying the right things so far and Wiz is the only person I'd even remotely trust to do a decent job. The fact that there's no mana and no mission trees already removes two of the biggest knocks on modern Paradox design philosophy. My gut tells me the game will still pale in comparison to Vic 2 and I'd highly recommend not pre-ordering. Paradox really needs to learn to not take customers for granted and if they want my money then they'll have to knock this one out of the park on release. No more pay $60 and wait 3 years for another $100 in DLC, patches, and mods to flesh out the game.

Having bought Paradox games for almost 20 years, I'm pretty much done with the studio but I look forward to seeing the reviews on this after it drops. Until then it's not worth the time following given how many bridges they've burned.

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Re: VICTORIA III Announced!!!
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2021, 09:50:10 AM »
I have zero expectations given the trend of Paradox lately, but I will say they are at least saying the right things so far and Wiz is the only person I'd even remotely trust to do a decent job. The fact that there's no mana and no mission trees already removes two of the biggest knocks on modern Paradox design philosophy. My gut tells me the game will still pale in comparison to Vic 2 and I'd highly recommend not pre-ordering. Paradox really needs to learn to not take customers for granted and if they want my money then they'll have to knock this one out of the park on release. No more pay $60 and wait 3 years for another $100 in DLC, patches, and mods to flesh out the game.

Having bought Paradox games for almost 20 years, I'm pretty much done with the studio but I look forward to seeing the reviews on this after it drops. Until then it's not worth the time following given how many bridges they've burned.

Agree with all the points Bamilus made bere. Definitely  no pre order from me either.

If I get into Vicky2 then I may try and hold out for a year or so post release so I can pick it up cheaper and more complete.
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