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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #150 on: March 02, 2016, 06:29:00 PM »
What I find interesting is the tanks seem to move like you wold expect...very heavy machines.  Even in GTOS, the tanks seem to trundle and labor across the ground.  In CM WW2 games, tanks seem very light in the way they move.  Just my impressions.

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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #151 on: March 02, 2016, 06:35:38 PM »
I hope it runs well.  GTOS can bog down on my PC if I'm playing with a large number of units.
It does run well on older machines. They have lots of options to tweak the graphics. "Limit battle radius" etc.

My machine is "older"  ::) I have no trouble running the Graviteam titles and I have them all.

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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #152 on: March 02, 2016, 06:37:45 PM »
What I find interesting is the tanks seem to move like you wold expect...very heavy machines.  Even in GTOS, the tanks seem to trundle and labor across the ground.  In CM WW2 games, tanks seem very light in the way they move.  Just my impressions.
Graviteam model over 6 different surface to track friction values. The tanks do feel like they have weight. They have a good physics engine.

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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #153 on: March 02, 2016, 06:41:42 PM »
What I find interesting is the tanks seem to move like you wold expect...very heavy machines.  Even in GTOS, the tanks seem to trundle and labor across the ground.  In CM WW2 games, tanks seem very light in the way they move.  Just my impressions.

Well it's a same engine used for Graviteam Tank Sim after all.
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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #154 on: March 02, 2016, 07:09:14 PM »
Who's selling it, GG, Steam?
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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #155 on: March 02, 2016, 07:12:10 PM »
Who's selling it, GG, Steam?

Facebook says Steam only

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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #156 on: March 02, 2016, 08:00:47 PM »
Thx, for $35 i'll be picking this up on the 5th. Its 43 so the German infantry should have a chance against armor in this one. Here's a question can you tow the guns yet?
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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #157 on: March 02, 2016, 08:26:07 PM »

Graviteam Tactics Mius Front - Screenshots

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http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/graviteam-tactics-mius-front-screenshots.html?m=1
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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #158 on: March 02, 2016, 08:29:41 PM »
Nice. I'm now convinced to buy.

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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #159 on: March 02, 2016, 08:48:53 PM »
Its 43 so the German infantry should have a chance against armor in this one.

One hopes -- this is definitely an area where Mius Front could afford to improve on its predecessor. In Op Star, infantry (esp. Wehrmacht) were almost completely helpless against armor, even when entrenched or in confined quarters (like forest). This is an area where it falls down in the realism department. In CMx2, you would be a fool to attack entrenched / well defended infantry with armor alone, unsupported by your own infantry.  In GTOS Op Star, the Soviet infantry is well kitted-out with the surprisingly effective anti-tank rifle (effective against light armor / halftracks, but also the Mk IIIs and IVs to some extent). German infantry has a couple useless Panzerbuchsen and AT grenades. A couple of T-34s will wreak complete havoc on Wehr troops not backed up by AT guns or supporting armor.

Was the Panzerfaust around in mid-43?

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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #160 on: March 02, 2016, 08:53:06 PM »
Its 43 so the German infantry should have a chance against armor in this one.

Was the Panzerfaust around in mid-43?

Yup if memory serves. Dont remember when in 43 lets hope its not late 43 ;)
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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #161 on: March 03, 2016, 03:30:37 AM »
Someone received a game key early and posted this first look (with a focus on the UI ) :


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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #162 on: March 03, 2016, 07:11:20 AM »

Graviteam Tactics Mius Front - Screenshots

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http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/graviteam-tactics-mius-front-screenshots.html?m=1


Wait, I see screenshots of Tigers (!!) -- didn't realize they would be in the OOB for Mius Front.  Imagine they're just available in quick battles rather than the campaign -- ?

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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #163 on: March 03, 2016, 07:50:09 AM »

Graviteam Tactics Mius Front - Screenshots

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http://kriegsimulation.blogspot.co.uk/2016/03/graviteam-tactics-mius-front-screenshots.html?m=1

Wait, I see screenshots of Tigers (!!) -- didn't realize they would be in the OOB for Mius Front.  Imagine they're just available in quick battles rather than the campaign -- ?

A lot of panzers VI took part in the Battle of Kursk in july 1943 (am i right assuming the Mius Front is the southern part of this battle ?)

source : http://usacac.army.mil/cac2/CGSC/CARL/nafziger/943GGBA.pdf

link to all Nafziger OOB's : http://cdm16040.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p4013coll11/id/1277

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Re: Graviteam Tactics: Mius-Front Release date
« Reply #164 on: March 03, 2016, 08:23:27 AM »
Grabbed this screen from SimDeck's youtube vid --

Shows there are 2 campaigns (playable from either German or Soviet side), and also gives OOB -- 2nd German campaign is just 4 infantry divisions (...just...?!?).  First campaign has the potentially more interesting OOB:

"17 AC, 16 MID, 23 TD"

So clearly 16th Motorized Infantry Division. Other 2? 23rd Tank-destroyer battalion? I'm at a loss for what "17 AC" signifies. 17th armored-car battalion??  Neither "tank-destroy bat." nor "armored car bat." are standard Wehrmacht designations.... Would probably have to be a Panzerjaeger Abteilung and / or Aufklaerungs Abteilung --

Neither would include Tigers though -- we'd be looking for a Heavy Armored Battalion -- Schwerepanzer Abteilung

EDIT -- looking a little further in the video, seems 17 AC may refer to 17th Armored Corps (again, not a usual Wehrmacht designation -- XVII Panzerkorps)

And 23 TD seems to be 23rd Tank Division (Panzerdivision)
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