More Pix For A Laugh

Started by bayonetbrant, January 16, 2013, 05:16:22 PM

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GDS_Starfury

From what I've read its just an accident.  No drugs or drink involved nd he wasnt the cause of the accident.
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Pretty sure I had heard, several days after the incident, that someone had 'proof,' that Jenner was texting and driving.  Not sure what constitutes 'proof.'
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Quote from: MetalDog on April 26, 2015, 04:41:56 PM
Pretty sure I had heard, several days after the incident, that someone had 'proof,' that Jenner was texting and driving.  Not sure what constitutes 'proof.'

That's what I read as well. Additionally, his version of the accident (even minus the texting part) was already disproven by investigators. He attempted to blame another driver for starting the chain event when it was actually him. Frankly, I'm surprised the case has fallen so far below the radar. My cynical spidy-sense side wonders if it's not celebrity "justice" at work here.

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Quote from: Steelgrave on April 26, 2015, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on April 26, 2015, 04:41:56 PM
Pretty sure I had heard, several days after the incident, that someone had 'proof,' that Jenner was texting and driving.  Not sure what constitutes 'proof.'

That's what I read as well. Additionally, his version of the accident (even minus the texting part) was already disproven by investigators. He attempted to blame another driver for starting the chain event when it was actually him. Frankly, I'm surprised the case has fallen so far below the radar. My cynical spidy-sense side wonders if it's not celebrity "justice" at work here.

The article Brant posted is pretty much the way I've been hearing how it happened - that Jenner's car rear ended the little old lady in the Lexus, which pushed her car into oncoming traffic, and that's when the Hummer hit her and ended her life.

It's pretty obvious that when you rear end someone like that (quiet, Star), you're not paying attention, so texting is a very logical possibility. He caused the accident, period.

My wife watched his interview and I only caught part of it, and two things occurred to me. One, he must have had even more corrective surgery because he didn't quite look like the muppet he used to look like, and two, I wondered how the media can be all touchy-feely-supportive of a guy that caused someone's death due to ignorance. Typical. I couldn't care less if he wants to be a woman, dog, horse, or whatever.

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Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 27, 2015, 02:26:34 PM
One, he must have had even more corrective surgery because he didn't quite look like the muppet he used to look like, and two,

Accidents happen sometimes. When someone just stops in the middle of the road when you are expecting traffic to keep moving you don't crash out of ignorance, you crash because you don't react in time.

I know if he crashed into me I'd freak out a bit when he got out of the car though, he/she/it is just creepy looking!
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MetalDog

I hate to be that guy, but, accidents don't happen, they are caused.  And you are certainly welcome to argue that point, but I will ask you to think of this first, is there any way that accident could have been avoided?  If so, the answer is, it wasn't an accident, it was caused.  And if you are truthful with yourself and the 'accident,' you are applying that to, you will see that there is no such things as accidents.
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Marty Ward

Quote from: MetalDog on April 27, 2015, 06:22:33 PM
I hate to be that guy, but, accidents don't happen, they are caused.  And you are certainly welcome to argue that point, but I will ask you to think of this first, is there any way that accident could have been avoided?  If so, the answer is, it wasn't an accident, it was caused.  And if you are truthful with yourself and the 'accident,' you are applying that to, you will see that there is no such things as accidents.

Sure everything has a 'cause'. Technically every car accident is 'caused' simply by getting in and driving your car. An accident is unintentional as opposed to doing something that led to it which is why there are no fault accidents.
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Quote from: Marty Ward on April 27, 2015, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on April 27, 2015, 06:22:33 PM
I hate to be that guy, but, accidents don't happen, they are caused.  And you are certainly welcome to argue that point, but I will ask you to think of this first, is there any way that accident could have been avoided?  If so, the answer is, it wasn't an accident, it was caused.  And if you are truthful with yourself and the 'accident,' you are applying that to, you will see that there is no such things as accidents.

Sure everything has a 'cause'. Technically every car accident is 'caused' simply by getting in and driving your car. An accident is unintentional as opposed to doing something that led to it which is why there are no fault accidents.

In the end this is what it boils down to - was Jenner negligent?

Accidents happen. Bad accidents happen.

I don't want to get too technical, but in the US and all states as I understand it, if you rear-end someone you are at fault. It doesn't matter if they negligently squeaked into a space they shouldn't have been able to do so, you are at fault if you hit the rear bumper. Period.

I still haven't heard a good why/how this happened, and I'll reserve judgement until I do. It may (or may not) come to pass that Jenner was technically at fault whereas whoever it was in front of him really drover poorly. Or maybe he was texting. I don't know. All I know is I haven't heard anything definitive. Not that I have much dog in this argument, but let's see where the dust settles.
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Quote from: Marty Ward on April 27, 2015, 10:06:32 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on April 27, 2015, 06:22:33 PM
I hate to be that guy, but, accidents don't happen, they are caused.  And you are certainly welcome to argue that point, but I will ask you to think of this first, is there any way that accident could have been avoided?  If so, the answer is, it wasn't an accident, it was caused.  And if you are truthful with yourself and the 'accident,' you are applying that to, you will see that there is no such things as accidents.

Sure everything has a 'cause'. Technically every car accident is 'caused' simply by getting in and driving your car. An accident is unintentional as opposed to doing something that led to it which is why there are no fault accidents.

Your first sentence was correct.  Everything after that is semantics.  Getting in to your car should bring a level of alertness that doesn't allow for inattention on your part or of the vehicles around you.  Any lapse on your part, whatever your intention, is still a lapse on your part.  Therefore, anything that happens has a cause and can't be an accident.
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All of my training has told me there are no accidents other than acts of God/natural disasters. Driving without due care, attitude and attention is negligence in my books.
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