Predestination has been on and off my wishlist over the years. It languishes in early access but the developer is persistently updating the game. It looks epic in scope. Have any Grogheads tried it out and have any comments?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/340210/Predestination/ (https://store.steampowered.com/app/340210/Predestination/)
There are several threads on this game.
I believe Martok was a big fan and supporter from the kickstarter days...
i have it, but never installed. It just seems to flat and soulless to me and I'm not a fan of the ship styles...they look oddly phallic. Additionally, they have a hex-based planet system, and yet, my understanding is that they have not implemented hex-based planetary combat. That really would have made the game worth looking at closely and would have resembled something we haven't really seen done well since EotFs. They really missed that boat.
I've tried this on several occasions. Can't put my finger on it but it just seems like....meh. Sort of an alpha that was released b/c they were tired of working on it? Maybe that's unfair but it's not enjoyable to me at all
Well, it IS still in Early Access. And their dev blog says they have a lot left to fill out and polish.
Quote from: solops on July 24, 2018, 09:01:33 PM
Well, it IS still in Early Access. And their dev blog says they have a lot left to fill out and polish.
For over 5 years? Don't hold your breath.
After 5 years, I think it's referred to as "Not So Early Access".
Labeling it as "In development hell" isn't as marketable. The lack of ground combat is concerning and if it has not grabbed any grogheads attention then I will give it a hard pass.
I guess I'll boot it up and see how it stands now. This is the dev blog from May 22. It does not sound abandoned to me, however slow they may be. But, I've been disappointed before.
https://steamcommunity.com/games/340210/announcements/detail/1672403714109243930
And their website is still up and running.
I think their last kickstarter update said they had finally moved from alpha to beta status with their 1.0 release. Doesn't beta mean feature complete? Backed in in january of 2014; can't believe it just reached Beta.
7 Days To Die released in 2013 and is still in Alpha!
Quote from: solops on July 25, 2018, 09:22:37 AM
I guess I'll boot it up and see how it stands now.
Please let us know what your impressions are. That would be great!
...and add M.O.R.E. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1447560584/more-oldschool-turn-based-4x-space-strategy-game/description) to the list of as-yet-to-be-released games. I still occasionally get emails and they still appear to be working on it...since Sep 1, 2012 ::)
News! - "Dev Update: V1.10 released. Simple Ship Designer, Refitting, Star Claims Overhaul, Asteroid Belts, Fleet Combat UI Overhaul, Race Iteration, and more." This is the first update since they went Beta. Looks pretty massive per the Dev notes.
Predestination is out of early access and has been released. On sale -34% until March 5th.
This has been on my wishlist for yonks, it's weird to see it suddenly released without warning. So...who's gonna take one for the team? :)
Quote from: Huw the Poo on February 27, 2019, 12:40:09 PM
This has been on my wishlist for yonks, it's weird to see it suddenly released without warning. So...who's gonna take one for the team? :)
I have it...so taking one for the team would mean that I would actually have to play it. Not sure if I'm willing to commit the time...especially with Man the Guns coming out tomorrow.
The v1.1 patch notes looked good and the v1.2 patch (release version) looks really good. I need to finish my current TW:WH2 campaign before trying t.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 27, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
I have it...so taking one for the team would mean that I would actually have to play it. Not sure if I'm willing to commit the time...especially with Man the Guns coming out tomorrow.
Blah blah blah. Stop typing and get playing!
Quote from: Huw the Poo on February 28, 2019, 12:57:41 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 27, 2019, 12:42:40 PM
I have it...so taking one for the team would mean that I would actually have to play it. Not sure if I'm willing to commit the time...especially with Man the Guns coming out tomorrow.
Blah blah blah. Stop typing and get playing!
You tell him Huw!
**quietly steps back out of the splash zone**
Watched a recently made video of Predestination gameplay. My honest thought was I really should be playing Endless Space 2, Stellaris, or Civ VI.
OK, I have (finally) started seriously mucking around with this game. I am completely adrift :-) in a good way. I have no idea what I am doing. The sandbox game starts in a pre-space era, so everything is focused on research and planetary development. I have found the development model to be more involved than I expected. You have to explore the planet. Then, there are planetary-level improvements to be built that have to be connected to a nearby city. Then, there are city-level developments like you would expect from Civilisation - food, energy, production, government, research, entertainment and storage for most of those things. I do not have a feel for how it all fits together or if it "works" as a game, but I am optimistic due to the level of detail and care I can see in it. I figure I will have to play a couple of games on Easy (which I almost never do) up to spaceflight and then start over in order to be able to have a solid base from which to launch my screaming hordes into space. If the space part of this game is as fleshed out as the planetary part, this could be really fun. I am concerned about possible late-game large-empire management issues (says the guy with one planet of one city and no spaceflight). If you already have the game, I think you should give it a whirl.
Also, the UI is fine so far. Not clunky but not incredibly super advanced easy peasy. Just solid, with a few ease-of-life things that need to be added.
^I just do not understand why, with a planet-based hex system, they did not include any tactical ground based combat element. Seems like a major missed opportunity.
At this point, I have no clue about combat, ground or space. I can say that the planetary surfaces are big, not just 10 or 20...more like several hundred hexes. The starting view alone has about 120 hexes and one city. I think you are limited to 4 cities per planet. And the planet is a sphere that you rotate to view. You cannot see the entire surface at once.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention - I skipped the tutorial, natch :-)
As any red blooded gamer would.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on March 13, 2019, 01:43:43 PM
^I just do not understand why, with a planet-based hex system, they did not include any tactical ground based combat element. Seems like a major missed opportunity.
Maybe in a patch or DLC? Who knows? I still do not know how it is handled in the current version as the best I can manage right now is fancy paper airplanes. For all I know I might be able to build panzers with dragonfly wings.
Gonna have to put the game up for a while. My son and I are headed out to load some feeders. Hoggy-huntin' time approaches.....
Quote from: Gusington on March 13, 2019, 01:54:41 PM
As any red blooded gamer would.
Lol, and then we complain when there isn't one!!! I think we're usually more guilty of not RTFM!
It's our God given right to demand a high quality manual and then not read it 👍
The more I get into this game, the better I like it. But, I just have not played enough to give a "full-game" recommendation. Early enthusiasm has often led to late-game disappointment. So far, though, this game looks really good.
Cool, I'm looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts later then.
Backed this 4? years ago. Since they finally decided to exit early access I decided it was time to download my drm-free game. Of course it crashes during loading. And in sympathy, Firefox on my tablet crashed as I started to type this!
Quote from: bobarossa on March 16, 2019, 07:43:51 PM
Since they finally decided to exit early access I decided it was time to download my drm-free game. Of course it crashes during loading. And in sympathy, Firefox on my tablet crashed as I started to type this!
Outstanding! Long live technology making our lives simple and care free.
I think the game has a few teething problems, but they have issued several hotfixes in the last week and seem responsive to reports of issues. They have promised support and free content for some time and we may even see some DLC. The planetary development system is a game by itself. They have included some templates so that you can just tell a planet to build a whole program of buildings (ag planets, R&D planets, etc). This should help with MM in large, long games. I am having trouble with the ship design/build windows right now.
Quote from: bobarossa on March 16, 2019, 07:43:51 PM
Backed this 4? years ago. Since they finally decided to exit early access I decided it was time to download my drm-free game. Of course it crashes during loading. And in sympathy, Firefox on my tablet crashed as I started to type this!
Consistency is often under-rated, don't you think? :hug:
And their comment on downloading the drm free version is that the would contact me after major updates. I didn't realize they would offer only minor support for that version.
So I recently built a new Win 10 computer and tried Predistination on it. Still crashes. Anyone get the DRM free version of the game to run?
Predestination just got a fairly significant update with hints about future work.
Awesome! Glad to see they're still supporting/improving the game.
Is it any good? It's 50% off on Steam so I might just grab it
It is worth a look. I have not played enough of the recent iterations to say more - not enough time. I WILL be playing it sometime. It has several different twists to it and is worth a look, I think.
They supposedly fixed a problem with DRM free versions back in June but still haven't sent me a link to download the fixed version. They are apparently working on a new game and had put this one on hiatus for a while.
New patch out.