About 8,000 US troops are deploying to secure evacuations from Kabul

[solops]

Shocking. The Taliban fibbed. Just shocking.

[Gusington]

I didn't really read it as insulting. Everyone with any involvement in Afghanistan seems to be sh*tting it right now, except the Taliban. And the whole point of the post, that it's the same damned helicopter, is incredible...outweighing any use of the word 'panic' to me.

[Jarhead0331]

I didn't really read it as insulting. Everyone with any involvement in Afghanistan seems to be sh*tting it right now, except the Taliban. And the whole point of the post, that it's the same damned helicopter, is incredible...outweighing any use of the word 'panic' to me.

It's honestly not that surprising to me considering the age of most aircraft in the USMC fleet. I'm more surprised that someone actually compared tail codes

[jejo68]

I didn't really read it as insulting. Everyone with any involvement in Afghanistan seems to be sh*tting it right now, except the Taliban. And the whole point of the post, that it's the same damned helicopter, is incredible...outweighing any use of the word 'panic' to me.

It's honestly not that surprising to me considering the age of most aircraft in the USMC fleet. I'm more surprised that someone actually compared tail codes

dude its the internet. how can anything surprise you  :)

[MikeGER]

The opening line is a bit insulting, isn't it?  Especially in light of what the Brits, Frenchies, and Germanz are doing to get their people out of this clusterfuck.

speeking about helicopters...


Germany deploys two H145M LUH SOF (Light Utility Helicopter – Special Operation Forces) to Kabul airport


training picture

i had read in a german language  article that the USA asked for it because their usually larger helicopters are to big to operate for most of Kabul compounds and inside the city pick-ups   

[Gusington]

^That last picture is the most German thing I have seen this morning.

[Uberhaus]

^That last picture is the most German thing I have seen this morning.

The shepherd is especially German.

All jokes aside, what a bloody mess.  To anyone that went to Afghanistan or lost anyone, going surely saved someone whether a fellow or an Afghani, or made their lives better at least for a short time.

[Sir Slash]

Love the Flying Dog approach to warfare. Wonder why it's not an, 'Air-dale'? 

[Gusington]

Holy crap I didn't even see the dog!

[solops]

The dog seems to be really happy about flying!

[MOS:96B2P]

From Aljazeera: 

Taliban fighters massacred nine ethnic Hazara men after taking control of Afghanistan's Ghazni province last month, Amnesty International has said in a new report.  According to the Amnesty report, six of the men were shot and three were tortured to death, including one man who was strangled with his scarf and had his arm muscles sliced off.  One man, Wahed Qaraman, 45, was taken from his home by Taliban fighters who broke his legs and arms, shot him in the right leg, pulled his hair out, and beat his face with a blunt object, the report said.

[MOS:96B2P]

From Aljazeera:

A NATO official has said that at least 20 people have died in and around the airport in the past week.

An Afghan security guard has been killed in a firefight between unknown gunmen and Afghan forces at the north gate of Kabul airport, the German military said, as thousands thronged the airport, seeking to flee Taliban rule.

Three more people were injured in the gun battle on Monday morning that has also involved German and US forces, the German military said.

[al_infierno]

Did anyone seriously entertain the idea that there wouldn't be reprisals the aftermath of a Taliban victory?  It doesn't matter at all what their leadership said for PR, or even if they really, really meant it.  Rabid followers of any flavor will just go ahead and carry out extreme justice on anybody who appears to be tangentially associated with "the enemy," and nobody's going to hold them accountable because they're fighting for "the good guys" and they just got a little carried away.

In my eyes, it's like taking the fence off a sheep pen and then getting surprised when wolves come in for the slaughter.

[GDS_Starfury]

Ive still not heard of any American or European people getting killed.
hope it stays that way.  :bd:

[Ubercat]

Ive still not heard of any American or European people getting killed.
hope it stays that way.  :bd:

You fishing?