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Title: U.S. Space Force
Post by: jomni on February 19, 2019, 08:54:05 PM
Who's signing up?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-space/trump-signs-directive-in-step-to-create-us-space-force-idUSKCN1Q82H2
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 19, 2019, 09:40:03 PM
(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BNDY2YjgyZGMtMWY2Zi00ZmQ5LTg0YjgtNjYyMGNkMTMzNWU1XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyMzM4NjcxOTc@._V1_UY268_CR0,0,182,268_AL_.jpg)
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Gusington on February 19, 2019, 09:56:50 PM
HA!
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Sir Slash on February 19, 2019, 11:33:58 PM
I'm in. How's the retirement?
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: RommelFox on February 19, 2019, 11:52:57 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 19, 2019, 11:33:58 PM
I'm in. How's the retirement?

Admit it, you're in it for the spandex  :hide:
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: SirAndrewD on February 20, 2019, 01:24:32 AM
Let's go.

Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: jomni on February 20, 2019, 07:12:17 AM
OMG there's a lot of memes on this going way back.
Am I pre-empting the Friday thread again by posting this music video?
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Pete Dero on February 20, 2019, 07:29:08 AM
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpoliticalpunchline.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F08%2Ftrump-space-force-shatner.jpg&hash=7bae27d40e949b3322cc301a09c09e59ee000da9)
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Dammit Carl! on February 20, 2019, 07:59:38 AM
This is the dumbest damn thing yet, and that is saying a lot.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: JasonPratt on February 20, 2019, 08:40:52 AM
Quote from: jomni on February 20, 2019, 07:12:17 AM
OMG there's a lot of memes on this going way back.

That was so great! -- needs a Showa Era version though. (War of the Planets; the Mysterians; Godzilla vs Monster X; Destroy All Monsters)
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: acctingman on February 20, 2019, 09:34:28 AM
This has to be the dumbest shit I've ever seen. How many people are truly suffering in our country and this hillbilly redneck wants to make sure the Skrulls or the Kree never invade our country. Jesus H Joseph and Mary....the US gov't (yes, a slight generalization) has to be the biggest fucking cesspool on this planet.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Dammit Carl! on February 20, 2019, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: acctingman on February 20, 2019, 09:34:28 AM
This has to be the dumbest shit I've ever seen. How many people are truly suffering in our country and this hillbilly redneck wants to make sure the Skrulls or the Kree never invade our country. Jesus H Joseph and Mary....the US gov't (yes, a slight generalization) has to be the biggest fucking cesspool on this planet.

Word.  I do disagree about him being a hillbilly redneck as those kinds of folks I can deal with (as they do comprise most of my family).  More like, "bloviating, Yankee carpetbagger," in my eyes.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 11:19:50 AM
I'm thinking we can solve this problem if we just build, 'The Wall'. And make it really, really tall. 
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 20, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
No. We need "The Roof".
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Pete Dero on February 20, 2019, 11:42:50 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 11:19:50 AM
I'm thinking we can solve this problem if we just build, 'The Wall'. And make it really, really tall.

(https://i.imgflip.com/10gesk.jpg)
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Con on February 20, 2019, 02:26:56 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on February 20, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
No. We need "The Roof".
That made me laugh
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
And then what about the underground aliens? How you gonna stop them when they tunnel up from their secret base under Mt. Rushmore? OH! Wait, you're all not supposed to know about that.  #:-)   Quick, everybody pretend we're still talking about the Space Force.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: SirAndrewD on February 20, 2019, 03:56:37 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
And then what about the underground aliens? How you gonna stop them when they tunnel up from their secret base under Mt. Rushmore? OH! Wait, you're all not supposed to know about that.  #:-)   Quick, everybody pretend we're still talking about the Space Force.

Don't be foolish.  There are no underground aliens.  How can there be when the earth is flat?
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: DoctorQuest on February 20, 2019, 04:31:41 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 03:49:21 PM
And then what about the underground aliens? How you gonna stop them when they tunnel up from their secret base under Mt. Rushmore? OH! Wait, you're all not supposed to know about that.  #:-)   Quick, everybody pretend we're still talking about the Space Force.

No issues. We just build "The Floor".
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: JasonPratt on February 20, 2019, 05:28:01 PM
And now we're reaching 7 Days to Die territory.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Staggerwing on February 20, 2019, 07:03:01 PM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on February 20, 2019, 11:26:58 AM
No. We need "The Roof".

Quote from: DoctorQuest on February 20, 2019, 04:31:41 PM
No issues. We just build "The Floor".


And how long into the procurement&production phase will we go before someone points out that the designers forgot to include "The Bathroom"?
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Toonces on February 20, 2019, 08:46:16 PM
I'm pretty sure this thread just won the internet for the day.

Brother Grogs, I salute you!   :notworthy:
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Sir Slash on February 20, 2019, 11:16:55 PM
I would like to plead a case for a special steel clad 15 ft. barrier fenced 'Mother-In-Law' room if I may. Thank you.  <:-)
Title: Space Force makes its first launch
Post by: steve58 on March 27, 2020, 08:20:25 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/science/space-force-satellite-launches-from-cape-canaveral
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: steve58 on May 15, 2020, 03:22:02 PM
Its official, because USA SF has a flag. O0  (flag unfurling at ~2:28 mark).  I thought we wuz done using roman numerals as dates...

Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Sir Slash on May 15, 2020, 09:37:09 PM
In space, no one can hear you unfurl.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Dammit Carl! on May 16, 2020, 01:37:04 AM
Gotta look up that gobblygook in the middle of Chief's rank patch there.

All we need now is that huge, 2 person Air Force sword to make in to the pic for maximum cringe.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: steve58 on May 14, 2021, 01:47:01 PM
Vandenberg Air Force Base to Be Renamed Vandenberg Space Force Base (https://www.newsmax.com/us/vandenberg-base-rename-air-force/2021/05/14/id/1021423/)
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Pete Dero on September 21, 2022, 09:06:23 AM
.

Space Force, the sixth and newest branch of the US military, unveiled its official song today.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: FarAway Sooner on September 23, 2022, 10:45:52 AM
I never know whether to take memes like this seriously or not.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Sir Slash on September 23, 2022, 10:51:51 AM
Not very catchy but you can dance to it.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: JasonPratt on September 23, 2022, 12:20:21 PM
Semper Supra Uber Alles?
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Pete Dero on September 23, 2022, 01:05:13 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on September 23, 2022, 10:45:52 AM
I never know whether to take memes like this seriously or not.

Not a meme.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: ArizonaTank on September 23, 2022, 01:26:31 PM
Somehow the theme is just missing something...  photon torpedoes? lasers? or burning meteors perhaps?

For comparison, the theme of the US Army Air Corps:

Off we go into the wild blue yonder,
Climbing high into the sun;
Here they come zooming to meet our thunder,
At 'em boys, give 'er the gun
Down we dive spouting our flame from under
Off with one helluva roar!
We live in fame or go down in flame, hey!
Nothing'll stop the Army Air Corps!
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Sir Slash on September 23, 2022, 03:01:46 PM
Now there's a tune I could dance to. Even sober.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: JasonPratt on September 23, 2022, 03:32:55 PM
To be fair, anything they tried to produce would look like a meme. As long as it's awesome, that's the best we can hope for.

At least it sounds traditional instead of new-agey!
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Jarhead0331 on September 23, 2022, 03:40:42 PM
I think the problem the Space Force has is that it hasn't really accomplished anything publicly notable yet. No hard fought battles, no triumphs against great odds, no tremendous sacrifice that won the battle in the last hour. All the other services have this and are generally featured in their songs.

Imagine years from now after they've fought battles in space. Once they've set attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. When they've watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate...then, The Space Force shall have a glorious song.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Tripoli on September 23, 2022, 03:50:22 PM
I was kinda hoping they would use this  ;D

Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Dammit Carl! on September 23, 2022, 04:15:56 PM
Re: Space Boyz Theme Song

Sweet Jesus, it's getting worse.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: steve58 on September 23, 2022, 04:23:37 PM
Quote from: Tripoli on September 23, 2022, 03:50:22 PM
I was kinda hoping they would use this  ;D


:-\ :-\ While that would be acceptable, I prefer the opening music from ST:DS9.  Show may not have been as good, but I like the music better... O0

Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: solops on September 23, 2022, 04:39:26 PM
The obvious music for the Space Force is the Imperial March from Star Wars. Heck, i'd go join today! And if all recruits got a spiffy stormtrooper suit, enrollment would soar!  Eat your heart out Army!
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 23, 2022, 05:02:05 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 23, 2022, 03:40:42 PM
I think the problem the Space Force has is that it hasn't really accomplished anything publicly notable yet. No hard fought battles, no triumphs against great odds, no tremendous sacrifice that won the battle in the last hour. All the other services have this and are generally featured in their songs.

Im pretty sure all of their wins are pretty classified just like they were when it was Space Command.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Sir Slash on September 23, 2022, 10:24:20 PM
"Space Force-- We do more in nine orbits than most people do all day".
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 23, 2022, 10:33:57 PM
joke all you want, these are the people that are running the X-37b program and it's fucking spectacular.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: FarAway Sooner on September 29, 2022, 11:43:27 AM
I thought DS-9 was an awfully well crafted show.  Not nearly as revolutionary as the original series, but the execution was crisp and it offered a much more nuanced, real-life glimpse into that future universe than anything offered in the other series.  The latter seasons were particularly strong, with a well-developed story line and some very carefully grown characters.

That said, my thinking is that this one did NOT make the short list of theme songs for The Space Force.

Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 01:14:00 PM
I've heard a lot of talk regarding how the first few minutes of the next great war will decide the fate of nations such has never been seen before.

The first one to knock out all of the other guys satellites wins.  Mix in a well placed barrage of EMPs and the loser has no chance of ever recovering. 

I'm glad my nation has a space force, never mind the theme song is kind of baby'ish. 
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: FarAway Sooner on September 29, 2022, 01:17:43 PM
I've heard that same talk.  I don't know enough to agree or disagree, but it does sound like the kind of axiomatic Douhet theories that defined major powers' approach to air power leading up to WW II. 

The reality that emerged was a lot more... complicated.  But we obviously still really needed an air force to win that war!
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Pete Dero on September 29, 2022, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 01:14:00 PM
I've heard a lot of talk regarding how the first few minutes of the next great war will decide the fate of nations such has never been seen before.

The first one to knock out all of the other guys satellites wins.  Mix in a well placed barrage of EMPs and the loser has no chance of ever recovering. 

https://www.spacefoundation.org/space_brief/international-space-law/

There is no claim for sovereignty in space; no nation can "own" space, the Moon or any other body. Weapons of mass destruction are forbidden in orbit and beyond, and the Moon, the planets, and other celestial bodies can only be used for peaceful purposes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty#List_of_parties


Another worthless piece of paper.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 02:35:38 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on September 29, 2022, 01:17:43 PM
I've heard that same talk.  I don't know enough to agree or disagree, but it does sound like the kind of axiomatic Douhet theories that defined major powers' approach to air power leading up to WW II. 

The reality that emerged was a lot more... complicated.  But we obviously still really needed an air force to win that war!

I've been thinking sort of the same thing lately.  Blitzkrieg in WW2 when it was introduced to the world seemed unstoppable.  Eventually man adapted and was able to counter it.  Will we have enough time to figure out how to counter space attacks? 

Which leads me to...

Quote from: Pete Dero on September 29, 2022, 01:35:18 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 01:14:00 PM
I've heard a lot of talk regarding how the first few minutes of the next great war will decide the fate of nations such has never been seen before.

The first one to knock out all of the other guys satellites wins.  Mix in a well placed barrage of EMPs and the loser has no chance of ever recovering. 

https://www.spacefoundation.org/space_brief/international-space-law/

There is no claim for sovereignty in space; no nation can "own" space, the Moon or any other body. Weapons of mass destruction are forbidden in orbit and beyond, and the Moon, the planets, and other celestial bodies can only be used for peaceful purposes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outer_Space_Treaty#List_of_parties


Another worthless piece of paper.

Yes you're correct.  I noticed that there are two major powers that acceded to the treaty but not ratified it.  So see even right there they're saying yeah we know we're not supposed to kill people in outer space but whatever. 

Just to check on my own research and understanding, Can anyone explain the legal difference between accession and ratification when it comes to treaties?
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: Pete Dero on September 29, 2022, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 02:35:38 PM

Just to check on my own research and understanding, Can anyone explain the legal difference between accession and ratification when it comes to treaties?

https://ask.un.org/faq/14594

Ratification

Ratification defines the international act whereby a state indicates its consent to be bound to a treaty if the parties intended to show their consent by such an act. In the case of bilateral treaties, ratification is usually accomplished by exchanging the requisite instruments, while in the case of multilateral treaties the usual procedure is for the depositary to collect the ratifications of all states, keeping all parties informed of the situation. The institution of ratification grants states the necessary time-frame to seek the required approval for the treaty on the domestic level and to enact the necessary legislation to give domestic effect to that treaty. 

Accession

"Accession" is the act whereby a state accepts the offer or the opportunity to become a party to a treaty already negotiated and signed by other states. It has the same legal effect as ratification. Accession usually occurs after the treaty has entered into force. The Secretary-General of the United Nations, in his function as depositary, has also accepted accessions to some conventions before their entry into force. The conditions under which accession may occur and the procedure involved depend on the provisions of the treaty. A treaty might provide for the accession of all other states or for a limited and defined number of states. In the absence of such a provision, accession can only occur where the negotiating states were agreed or subsequently agree on it in the case of the state in question.
Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: ArizonaTank on September 29, 2022, 04:42:54 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 29, 2022, 01:14:00 PM
I'm glad my nation has a space force, never mind the theme song is kind of baby'ish.

+1 to that!!!!

I have worked with Space Force on a few things.  Very impressive folks. Some of them are unsung national treasures. The guys I worked with are really just Air Force Space Command guys who came into the office one day and had to change their email addresses to Space Force. So it's not like Space Force is really a "new" thing.

Title: Re: U.S. Space Force
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 29, 2022, 04:58:10 PM
Space Force on Netfilx was really a lot of fun, shame it got cancelled.