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Digital Gaming => Computer Gaming => Topic started by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 01:01:35 PM

Title: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 01:01:35 PM
As you know, I've written many game reviews over the last 20 years. I don't regret it. What I do regret is not getting good at some I really like such as Dangerous Waters, EU II, Making History, Dawn of War, Combat Mission..the list grows with each thought. Therefore, unless it hits an undiscovered period like the Wars of German and Italian Unification, I'm going to concentrate on the old good games instead of opening up new chapters.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Shelldrake on February 12, 2012, 01:05:20 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 01:01:35 PM
As you know, I've written many game reviews over the last 20 years. I don't regret it. What I do regret is not getting good at some I really like such as Dangerous Waters, EU II, Making History, Dawn of War, Combat Mission..the list grows with each thought. Therefore, unless it hits an undiscovered period like the Wars of German and Italian Unification, I'm going to concentrate on the old good games instead of opening up new chapters.

I admire your resolve Jim! I am weak...oh so weak!
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2012, 01:11:22 PM
Let's see how long this lasts. Shogun 2: Fall of the Samurai releases next month and it isn't that much of a stretch  to see an eventual mod for it on 1860s Italy or Germany!
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 12, 2012, 01:16:53 PM
I can't ever make promises like this, I break and impulse buy way too often in order for anyone to believe me anyway:)
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 01:17:58 PM
Shogun 2 is fine but not a period that pushes my button. As a matter of fact, the whole TW series is nice bargain bin stuff for me - fun but not enough to buy first day. I admit if Western Civ comes out with something, I'll be very tempted.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2012, 01:46:56 PM
The next Shogun installment takes place in the 1860s. If modded I can see versions coming out on the unification of Italy and Germany!
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 02:02:02 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 12, 2012, 01:46:56 PM
The next Shogun installment takes place in the 1860s. If modded I can see versions coming out on the unification of Italy and Germany!

Then they better refine their diplomatic and naval models. I'd really like to see WCS do he period or Paradox do a enhanced add-on to Vicky 2.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2012, 02:14:13 PM
I'm just starting a campaign of the original Shogun 2 now and I can say that both the naval and diplomatic pieces of the game are much better than anything CA have done in the last 5 years.

Take that ;)
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 02:28:18 PM
I'll take another look. I'm open-minded.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2012, 02:43:04 PM
Just wait til the next installment comes out. The combined better AI, better naval model, era and setting will really turn you on I think! SEXYTIME!
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 03:57:36 PM
OK, I just bought Shogun 2 but that doesn't count 'cuz Gus kinda threw down the gauntlet, implying the engine can be modded to mid-19th century Europe,

Gus, which DLCs make the most difference?
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 12, 2012, 04:01:15 PM
Wow...this even beat my time of caving in :)
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 04:07:38 PM
Doesn't count, doesn't count, doesn't count!!!
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 12, 2012, 04:19:34 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 04:07:38 PM
Doesn't count, doesn't count, doesn't count!!!

So just to be clear....we are starting now......so you REALLY, REALLY are not going to purchase anymore games....starting NOW!   :)
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Hartford688 on February 12, 2012, 04:22:39 PM
Surely you are going to get Steam and Iron - a dreadnought buff like yourself?
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 04:24:25 PM
Starting now and I already have S&I.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bison on February 12, 2012, 04:24:45 PM
Don't worry Bis.  I've made this decision on many occassions myself only to break it as well.

Case in point purchased over the last week:
Command Ops: Highway to the Reich
Battle Academy Market Garden
Battle Academy Sealion
Star Wars The Old Republic w/ freaking $20 headset so I could chat with my brother while we play.

I'm so very weak.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Hartford688 on February 12, 2012, 04:28:05 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 04:24:25 PM
Starting now and I already have S&I.

:D
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Martok on February 12, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
Yeah, I just don't make pledges like this; I know myself too well!  I do always resolve to not buy games unless I have a very strong interest in them (and the price is right), but I'll never resolve to stop purchasing new games entirely. 




Quote from: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 04:07:38 PM
Doesn't count, doesn't count, doesn't count!!!
LOL. 

Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: jomni on February 12, 2012, 07:52:03 PM
As for me, I started getting back into buying after a short hiatus.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 12, 2012, 07:56:16 PM
Let it be written, let it be known...I am the man that broke Bismarck himself! Iron chancellor my pale white buttocks.

As far as DLCs, I bought the Ikko Ikki clan pack, the Sengoku Jedai clan pack, the Rise of the Samurai campaign (Gempai War) and got the Hattori clan pack with the limited edition of the game I bought. I did not get the 'blood' pack - I don't think it necessary.

If I misled you on the upcoming stand alone expansion, I apologize...but it will cost you another 30.00 dollars and does not require any other game. But the original Shogun 2 is well worth getting. It may be my favorite TW game. Definitely better than ETW and NTW...IMHO of course.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 12, 2012, 08:05:36 PM
Gus, no problems.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bison on February 12, 2012, 08:33:03 PM
I'd make Gus re-emburse you for pain and suffering. 
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Arctic Blast on February 13, 2012, 01:17:51 AM
I feel your pain, Bismarck. So many times I've tried to take a break from buying...and so many times I've bitterly failed after a short while.

Of course, I usually make it at least a full 24 hours before collapsing.  ;D
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 13, 2012, 03:49:50 PM
(Head down, looking at feet) I pre-ordered the new Shogun.

I tried, guys, really.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Hartford688 on February 13, 2012, 04:06:19 PM
But I have absolute confidence that tomorrow, you won't buy a new game.

Probably.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 13, 2012, 06:53:40 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on February 13, 2012, 03:49:50 PM
(Head down, looking at feet) I pre-ordered the new Shogun.

I tried, guys, really.

Wow....even on a pre-order you have caved...you are surpassing my impulse habits now:)
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 13, 2012, 08:02:45 PM


What did it was the pic on the email ad. I love "The Last Samurai". I had a Tom Cruise moment.

http://www.totalwar.com/shogun2/fall-of-the-samurai/ (http://www.totalwar.com/shogun2/fall-of-the-samurai/)




Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 13, 2012, 08:25:41 PM
Quote from: Bismarck on February 13, 2012, 08:02:45 PM
What did it was the pic on the email ad. I love "The Last Samurai". I had a Tom Cruise moment.  See attached

I can't blame you, I'll likely be placing my order soon as well:)
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 13, 2012, 08:30:11 PM
HAHAHA YES!!!! Even I haven't preordered Fall of the Samurai yet! Take that again Bismarck.

Where did you preorder from?
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bison on February 13, 2012, 08:32:13 PM
Why wouldn't you just order from Steam since it's required anyway?
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 13, 2012, 08:33:31 PM
There are three different pre-orders with three different clans that come with each.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 13, 2012, 08:35:21 PM
I'll pick it up from Gamersgate since I have that handy-dandy lifetime 15% off code:) 
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bison on February 13, 2012, 08:37:30 PM
You be able to buy all three the week it's released anyway.  It's the way of the DLC world. 
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 13, 2012, 08:38:58 PM
^That's why I am holding out, even though it may be my favorite game ever.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bison on February 13, 2012, 08:40:59 PM
I haven't looked at it yet.  What's the deal with the clans?  Special units or just a re-skin?
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 13, 2012, 08:45:15 PM
Both, I think. Just the tip of the iceberg with this release though.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 13, 2012, 08:45:31 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 13, 2012, 08:38:58 PM
^That's why I am holding out, even though it may be my favorite game ever.

Gus,

Do you have a listing of what pre-order specials are available from the various vendors?  I couldn't see anything mentioned on Gamersgate so not sure if that means no specials there.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bison on February 13, 2012, 08:47:04 PM
Yeah I just looked on Steam and I think you are correct Gus.  I don't get the need to make this a stand alone game however. 
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 13, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
Same as Napoleon: Total War. Except more gooder. There is a lot of new late 19th century military tech involved in this game. Which makes me salivate.

Grim.Reaper go here to see the differences in pre-orders: http://www.totalwar.com/shogun2/fots_preorder/

Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bismarck on February 13, 2012, 08:52:38 PM
Steam for the free DLC.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 13, 2012, 08:55:04 PM
Quote from: Gusington on February 13, 2012, 08:51:17 PM
Same as Napoleon: Total War. Except more gooder. There is a lot of new late 19th century military tech involved in this game. Which makes me salivate.

Grim.Reaper go here to see the differences in pre-orders: http://www.totalwar.com/shogun2/fots_preorder/

Thanks Gus...just having a hard time matching to Gamersgate since none of those version names are used on the Gamersgate site.  I am guessing it might be the limited version, but it doesn't say that.  Likely won't impact my buying decision, but was more curious than anything.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Bison on February 13, 2012, 08:55:53 PM
Well I hope it lives up to your expectations.  I still mantain that TW game design is best suited for melee based combat over long range black powder.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: Gusington on February 13, 2012, 09:00:26 PM
^The beauty of that is that there is both in the upcoming title.

Grim.Reaper I got the Limited Edition for the original Shogun and it had an additional clan as well as some MP stuff that I never use...no big whup.

And Bison is right if we can all just hold out everything will be available as DLC in  few weeks after release.
Title: Re: Hiatus on New Game Buying
Post by: JasonPratt on February 14, 2012, 03:28:50 PM
Hiten Mitsuryugi Style, Bismarck!

(I look forward to the mods putting characters from Rurouni Kenshin into the game...)