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besilarius

Have been staying away from this because it could be like stepping into a patch of quicksand.  Once you;re in, there is no escape.
Out of curiousity, can you choose to be a soviet sub commander? 
The SQS-35 VDS sonar (variable depth sonar) is not discussed anymore, but we had some great success with it.  Totally took away the thermal layer by going under it, and was good active or passive.  And the cable was certified for maneuvering up to 28 knots.
In October, or November, 1972, Manley was guided to a Charlie/Victor south of Crete by a P3. 
The sub skipper tried a lot of things, but couldn't shake her.  Kept it up for something like two hours when AFSouth in naples told us to reel it in because there was an Italian sub in the area. 
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Barthheart

Quote from: besilarius on June 11, 2017, 07:51:05 AM
Have been staying away from this because it could be like stepping into a patch of quicksand.  Once you;re in, there is no escape.
Out of curiousity, can you choose to be a soviet sub commander? 
...

Not yet. Future DLC.


Barthheart

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 11, 2017, 06:49:02 AM
Alright, I figured unguided torps are essentially worthless. The mission I'm playing has me in a Sturgeon and the pre mission briefing says I'm loaded with mk16s and mk37s. The 16s are unguided and useless. The 37s should have guidance. The only problem is I only seem able to load 16s and decoys into my tubes. Where the hell are the 37s?

JH, you need to load them on yer sub before the mission starts. In port at start you can change your loadout.

Grim.Reaper

Quote from: Barthheart on June 11, 2017, 08:25:09 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 11, 2017, 06:49:02 AM
Alright, I figured unguided torps are essentially worthless. The mission I'm playing has me in a Sturgeon and the pre mission briefing says I'm loaded with mk16s and mk37s. The 16s are unguided and useless. The 37s should have guidance. The only problem is I only seem able to load 16s and decoys into my tubes. Where the hell are the 37s?

JH, you need to load them on yer sub before the mission starts. In port at start you can change your loadout.

When I start the mission, both types are already on the sub and they can be loaded into the tubes before I leave port as well as during the mission.  Although at port, I can change the quantity of each , which I do so I can have more guided.

One weird thing I am seeing though, probably just something stupid I am doing, but every time I fire a 37, it either blows up as being launched or shortly there after.  Keep sinking myself:(

jomni

How to interpret ownsip and target signal strength numbers?

mikeck

Well, I just saw a YouTube video yesterday where a guy blew up a whale with a Mark 48. So I know what I will be trying to do with the game for the next few days😈😈
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Quote from: mikeck on June 11, 2017, 10:39:06 AM
Well, I just saw a YouTube video yesterday where a guy blew up a whale with a Mark 48. So I know what I will be trying to do with the game for the next few days😈😈
I did that the other day - to the total dismay of my daughter! I don't know if it was a 48 or not - but the whale got it!
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mirth

Quote from: JudgeDredd on June 11, 2017, 10:43:11 AM
Quote from: mikeck on June 11, 2017, 10:39:06 AM
Well, I just saw a YouTube video yesterday where a guy blew up a whale with a Mark 48. So I know what I will be trying to do with the game for the next few days😈😈
I did that the other day - to the total dismay of my daughter! I don't know if it was a 48 or not - but the whale got it!


It was probably a Soviet spy whale. Got what it deserved.

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trek

Just a heads-up: Over at Subsim the Modders have already embraced CW. There are three scenarios posted, also a mod enabling you to play Russian Subs. In addition a Sandbox Mode.

Jarhead0331

Quote from: trek on June 11, 2017, 11:45:35 AM
Just a heads-up: Over at Subsim the Modders have already embraced CW. There are three scenarios posted, also a mod enabling you to play Russian Subs. In addition a Sandbox Mode.

Links?
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Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 11, 2017, 11:54:49 AM
Quote from: trek on June 11, 2017, 11:45:35 AM
Just a heads-up: Over at Subsim the Modders have already embraced CW. There are three scenarios posted, also a mod enabling you to play Russian Subs. In addition a Sandbox Mode.

Links?

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/downloads.php?do=cat&id=103

Must be registered to download any mods or missions.

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There are mods and a few scenarios over on the Steam Modding forum too.
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Toonces

Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 11, 2017, 03:18:35 AM


Does anybody have any feedback on my question about unguided torpedoes?

Unguided torps aren't useless.  Remember, the Belgrano was taken out in the Falkands by unguided torps!

I don't know the optimal range for them, but surely closer is better.  The less running time and warning the target has, the harder it will be for it to avoid the torps.   1000 - 2000 yards is probably a good starting point.

The problem, as you've likely noticed, is that as soon as the enemy changes course or speed, your solution is worthless.  So in my opinion, there's no value in using less than a full spread if you're going to shoot.  Ideally you want to use them against the non-warships first.  In my experience so far, the ASW ships will hear the torps coming and maneuver, and also tell all the other ships as well.  So best bet is to use the unguided torps against the amphibs and save the guided torps for the escorts.

Finally, if the group is zig zagging, you need to take some time to observe the pattern, and try to hit then right after a course change.  I haven't managed to stay alive long enough to see a full zigzag, but I have seen escorts sprint and drift.
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Millipede

Not sure that the sinking of the Belgrano is an apt reference. The Belgrano was a surplus WWII light cruiser (USS Phoenix) and I don't know what, if any, upgrades the Argentinians made to her sensor suite but, I suspect that she was sailing along fat, dumb and happy with no idea that the HMS Conqueror was in the area. 

Nefaro

Quote from: Millipede on June 11, 2017, 04:04:01 PM
Not sure that the sinking of the Belgrano is an apt reference. The Belgrano was a surplus WWII light cruiser (USS Phoenix) and I don't know what, if any, upgrades the Argentinians made to her sensor suite but, I suspect that she was sailing along fat, dumb and happy with no idea that the HMS Conqueror was in the area.


It didn't have much, if any, modern upgrades from what I recall.