Combat Mission: Cold War

[Old TImer]

Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.

Apparently you get the 20% off CW if you already have SF2 and BS in your Steam account. Might be worth trying.

I tried both Steam and the Battlefront store and I received no discount.  Have Black Sea and CMSF2 on Steam.

[Sigwolf]

Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.

Apparently you get the 20% off CW if you already have SF2 and BS in your Steam account. Might be worth trying.

I tried both Steam and the Battlefront store and I received no discount.  Have Black Sea and CMSF2 on Steam.

If you have both on Steam, you should have the discount on Steam.  Go to the actual Cold War store page.  The game itself will show full price.  Right below it should be a "Combat Mission Collection" which includes all three CM games that have been released on Steam with a 20% discount.  If you already have the other two, this leaves Cold War at 20% off.  This is on the US page... I don't know if the bundle discount is offered in other countries.

[al_infierno]

Looking right now to finally try a Combat Mission game. I'm interested in Cold War and Black Sea. Anyone have a preference? I only want to pick up one to start and I'm leaning towards Cold War.

Gus, if you have never played CM before, you many want to consider starting off with one of the WWII CM titles.  My reason for this suggestion are as follows:
1) IMHO, CM map sizes work best with WWII-era weapon ranges.  I believe the modern games have too little space for the modern systems. (having said that, I'll be buying CM Cold War.  Its just I wouldn't recommend it for a first-time CM player)
2) There are more WWII scenarios available

My understanding is that Cold War strikes a nice balance between the modern titles and the WWII titles.  The combat and weapons systems portrayed are not quite as hyper precise and ultra deadly as Black Sea, but it's also not quite as fiddly and archaic as the weapons systems portrayed in the WWII titles.  That said I bought the game a while ago and only just now installed it through Steam so I have yet to give it a go.

[Gusington]

^I've wanted a Cold War game like this forever. I'm really interested in the setting and weapons systems of both sides so that would push me through to learn the game's systems and then enjoy the campaigns.

[al_infierno]

You'll probably dig CM:CW then, you can do custom battles where you spend points to build a force out of companies/platoons/squads, vehicles, specialist teams, air/arty support, and so on.  You can spend a ton of time fiddling with their positioning and orders, but the UI is very clean and easy to learn.  There's a good bit of micro, but you can choose to play WEGO turn-based which mitigates that quite a bit.  I would strongly recommend it based on my experience with the previous titles.

Also, I just fired up a battle and am awe-struck at the size of a Medium map.  It's at least as big as the largest maps in the previous titles.

[IICptMillerII]

Gus, I would highly recommend Cold War. Not that I am biased at all...

Anyways, the reason is that Cold War, in my opinion, hits all of the best parts of the CM engine. It features maps that are large enough to maneuver given the weapon ranges and lethality. This was a conscious design decision we went with. The US, NTC, and Soviet campaigns all feature large map with realistic forces for the sides and contexts. There are a bunch of scenarios, a lot of which are great as well.

Arguably the best part is the fact that it covers a pivotal period of technology. You can have M48s going up against T-55s, which essentially features WW2 era tank gunnery. And then at the other extreme, you can roll with the original M1 Abrams going up against the T-80B, with modern fire control computers, laser range finders, and exceptional armor. You quite literally get the best of both worlds, and everything in between. Kinda hard to go wrong with it!

[Old TImer]

Thanks - I'll keep it on my wishlist in hopes of a sale. I have Black Sea and Shockforce from BF, so the bundle isn't a benefit.

Apparently you get the 20% off CW if you already have SF2 and BS in your Steam account. Might be worth trying.

I tried both Steam and the Battlefront store and I received no discount.  Have Black Sea and CMSF2 on Steam.

If you have both on Steam, you should have the discount on Steam.  Go to the actual Cold War store page.  The game itself will show full price.  Right below it should be a "Combat Mission Collection" which includes all three CM games that have been released on Steam with a 20% discount.  If you already have the other two, this leaves Cold War at 20% off.  This is on the US page... I don't know if the bundle discount is offered in other countries.

Yikes thanks for the guidance.  The older I get the dumber I get.  I was told it was going to be the opposite
but since I hit 70 it's been pretty much downhill. 

Anyway since I'm here I'll put my 2 cents into the discussion.  Get the CW game.  If that's the time period you're interested in I'd go for it.  These CM titles are just astonishing as far as I'm concerned.  Nothing else quite like them.

[Gusington]

Thank you CPT and al! I love the idea of older tech vs. newer tech. Especially the tanks.

Are there Hinds? I thought I read that there were Hinds and A-10s.

[Sir Slash]

Does anyone know if there are plans to add other NATO forces or Warsaw Pact allies in later add-ons?

[al_infierno]

A new module has been confirmed which will most likely add some more factions, but no details confirmed as far as I know.

Don't know about hinds as aircrafts are not rendered on the map, but rather act as "off map artillery" unfortunately.

[IICptMillerII]

Thank you CPT and al! I love the idea of older tech vs. newer tech. Especially the tanks.

Are there Hinds? I thought I read that there were Hinds and A-10s.

No problem. Yup, there are Hinds and A-10s. And F-4s, and A-7s, and Mig-27s, etc. But as mentioned, they are not 3D modeled.

Does anyone know if there are plans to add other NATO forces or Warsaw Pact allies in later add-ons?

We are working on the first module now! Can't reveal details yet, but I will say there are new nations coming.

[al_infierno]

Thanks for the update Cap!  O0

[Sir Slash]

So...Luxembourg Capt.?  ;D

[Redwolf]

Don't know about hinds as aircrafts are not rendered on the map, but rather act as "off map artillery" unfortunately.

It is quite a bit more. They will find targets without their designated attack zone on their own (as opposed to artillery that falls randomly in the zone).

And AA units (AAA and missiles) fire back and can shoot down aircraft. I can be a nice battle in a battle. If you brought AA equipment. If not you are screwed.

[Gusington]

 :D