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Title: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: ArizonaTank on June 06, 2022, 02:04:27 PM
Chinese J-16 Flanker fighter being dangerously aggressive toward an Australian P-8 in the South China Sea. The J-16 dumped decoys in front of the P-8, and some of the chaff was ingested and damaged the P-8's engines. This is much more aggressive than what has been happening before.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chinese-fighter-s-decoy-dump-in-front-of-a-p-8-sets-dangerous-new-precedent/ar-AAY99ub?bk=1&ocid=msedgntp&cvid=006cbe54a6594ceaa8ed115cb374dab1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/chinese-fighter-s-decoy-dump-in-front-of-a-p-8-sets-dangerous-new-precedent/ar-AAY99ub?bk=1&ocid=msedgntp&cvid=006cbe54a6594ceaa8ed115cb374dab1) 
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: al_infierno on June 06, 2022, 02:09:49 PM
Does China have much of a history of sabre-rattling against Australia the way they regularly do with Taiwan and other neighbors?  Haven't kept up in that regard
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: W8taminute on June 06, 2022, 02:10:23 PM
I saw that article.  Scary stuff.

That's worse then what they did to Canadian pilots recently.  What's interesting is this event took place on 2022-05-26 and this news is only being released now.

Edit: al they have only recently been sabre rattling against Australia.  There was a big tizzy a few months ago when the Solomon Islands allowed China to setup bases there. 
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on June 06, 2022, 02:15:26 PM
CNN reported this as a 'chaffing' hahaha
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: W8taminute on June 06, 2022, 02:21:36 PM
^Sometimes my bum bum gets chaffed. 
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on June 06, 2022, 02:42:27 PM
 :-[
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Dammit Carl! on June 06, 2022, 03:06:50 PM
Time to whip out the Gold Bond.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on June 06, 2022, 09:55:12 PM
When your P-8 gets chaffed, it can be serious. It makes it hard for them to penetrate very deeply into unwanted airspace. And being Aussie makes it very painful down under. A warm bath would probably help.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: steve58 on June 08, 2022, 08:39:07 AM
...and nearby in the Gulf of Thailand:  China secretly building naval facility in Cambodia (https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2022/jun/07/china-secretly-building-military-facility-in-cambodia-report-2462829.html)
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on June 08, 2022, 09:09:27 AM
^You ruined the 'secret'!!
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: steve58 on June 08, 2022, 10:35:01 AM
 :-[
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on June 08, 2022, 11:38:19 AM
Probably just a new Cruise Ship Terminal for the Chinese people to do a little gambling and sight-seeing after recovering from the Covid pandemic. Nothing to see here...move along, move along.  ::)
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: W8taminute on June 08, 2022, 12:06:54 PM
I wonder how Vietnam is taking this activity by China in Cambodia?  Cambodia has always been (in recent years) Vietnams punching bag for expansion. 

By China building a base there stops Vietnam from getting too strong in the area. 
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on June 10, 2022, 01:24:07 PM
 :cowboy:

Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Staggerwing on June 10, 2022, 09:57:21 PM
^ Been there, saw that live, still have the Holiday Inn: Cambodia pin on my biker jacket, which I can't zip up anymore... :(
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Skoop on June 11, 2022, 10:56:46 AM
Lol....Jello Biafra is my Naval Action character.  Most people have no idea who that is......California Uber Alles.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: ArizonaTank on August 08, 2022, 08:22:07 AM
For the last week, China has held military drills in the waters surrounding Taiwan. This has put a soft blockade on the island since commercial transport generally avoids such areas; commercial flights and ships have apparently been constrained by the drills.

The drills had been scheduled to stop on Sunday.

Now, the drills have been extended. If China really wanted to put the screws to Taiwan and the US now, they could just continue this "stealth" blockade for an indefinite period of time. Anyway, not good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-announces-fresh-military-drills-around-taiwan/ar-AA10pUPN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5edcbf5ca53c4f868f8f75fc87ac41af (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-announces-fresh-military-drills-around-taiwan/ar-AA10pUPN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5edcbf5ca53c4f868f8f75fc87ac41af)
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: ArizonaTank on September 21, 2022, 11:14:25 PM
Some "good" or at least "better" news. China seems to be trying to de-escalate tension a bit.

They are now saying that while Taiwan reunification is "inevitable" it can happen peacefully. Taiwan of course is having none of that.

Of course nothing says that the Chinese can't quickly change their minds again.

https://apnews.com/article/taiwan-canada-china-government-and-politics-f1b5f86cc8985c40e4c9c2f4f51cda05 (https://apnews.com/article/taiwan-canada-china-government-and-politics-f1b5f86cc8985c40e4c9c2f4f51cda05)
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
the chinese know that they'll have lots of free territory up north to take in about a years time.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: jamus34 on September 22, 2022, 10:05:30 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
the chinese know that they'll have lots of free territory up north to take in about a years time.

Been saying that since Ukraine started beating the shit out of Russia. China is claiming to stand with their socialist friends but they are using the as a barometer for a number of options.

World's response if they make a move on Taiwan
Potential socioeconomic impact of said invasion
If Russia performed poorly, can they realistically make a move north.

Russia has land and resources that China desperately needs. I also seriously doubt anyone would come to Russia's aid.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Windigo on September 22, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
the chinese know that they'll have lots of free territory up north to take in about a years time.

I have always thought that if nukes were going to fly it'd be started between Russia/SU and China. Arrogance and xenophobia.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: MengJiao on September 22, 2022, 10:45:47 AM
Quote from: jamus34 on September 22, 2022, 10:05:30 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
the chinese know that they'll have lots of free territory up north to take in about a years time.

Been saying that since Ukraine started beating the shit out of Russia. China is claiming to stand with their socialist friends but they are using the as a barometer for a number of options.

World's response if they make a move on Taiwan
Potential socioeconomic impact of said invasion
If Russia performed poorly, can they realistically make a move north.

Russia has land and resources that China desperately needs. I also seriously doubt anyone would come to Russia's aid.

  I don't think China has to move explicitly against Russia -- maybe just support Khazakstan or some other (former) Russian "allies" in the (more or less former)
Russian Federation.  China can
move economically like some 19th century Imperialist (like Russia used to be) into Central Asia and is definitely already at work along those lines.
Taiwan is small potatoes compared to big chunks of Central Asia.

https://eurasianet.org/perspectives-china-cements-its-dominance-in-central-asia
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 10:58:10 AM
china will 100% use its African strategy with break away russian territories.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on September 22, 2022, 12:46:48 PM
In conflict between China and what is left of Russia, does North Korea just sit on its hands?
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 01:00:55 PM
yes
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on September 23, 2022, 10:48:42 AM
And which way does Iran swing? Or do they just keep their heads down until it's over?
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on September 23, 2022, 12:29:48 PM
^Iran has a bit of a problem with open revolt right now.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Windigo on September 23, 2022, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 10:58:10 AM
china will 100% use its African strategy with break away russian territories.

That strategy is very very effective for getting the foot in the door and short term, but China being China is quickly turning the nations against them. When I was down in South Africa, I heard stories from miners coming south to trade with us from bordering countries.

Their cheating ways are pissing everyone off. And it's turning governments against them. Big caveat is the nations that have given them land for agriculture have armed Chinese presence in them so the presence of this intimidationg factor may allow them to hold past a 10-20 year period.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on September 23, 2022, 02:57:08 PM
Another problem is that some of the nations China was collecting land from (like the port controlling access to the Red Sea from Djibouti), have started to collapse (like Sri Lanka), leaving China holding the bag for irreplaceable defaults.

That most likely includes Russia, China's biggest nearby trading partner.

This is why China will be looking to focus on solving its own internal economic problems and nibbling off land in Asia for a while, rather than pressing on bullying Taiwan and playing tiger-games with the US and our allies (if they take the advice of a position paper presented to the Politburo last week).
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on September 23, 2022, 03:00:46 PM
The President of Brazil has tried to curtail their influence in his country. It remains to be seen how effective he will be.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Windigo on September 23, 2022, 05:35:38 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on September 23, 2022, 03:00:46 PM
The President of Brazil has tried to curtail their influence in his country. It remains to be seen how effective he will be.

They got cash so that is hard to counter.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on September 23, 2022, 10:18:22 PM
Sure is. Somehow Chairman Xi and Brazilian conjures an ugly image in my mind.  :hide:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on October 23, 2022, 03:06:06 PM
An interesting analysis of economic brinksmanship the Biden administration just took against China: either play nice and get trade reinstated, or they'd better hope any war they kick off ends quickly...



At the moment, I'm leaning toward being in favor of this move.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on February 14, 2023, 04:14:52 PM
China -- if you can't really stop the Phillippines bringing supplies to beached ships guarding the Spratleys, troll them with frickin' laser beams!

https://www.state.gov/u-s-support-for-the-philippines-in-the-south-china-sea-3/

Further information via the Epoch Times:

QuoteThe Armed Forces of the Philippines issued a terse response to the event.

"The deliberate blocking of the Philippine government ships to deliver food and supplies to our military personnel ... is a blatant disregard for, and a clear violation of, Philippine sovereign rights," a Coast Guard spokesperson said in an official statement.

In response to the "increasing frequency and intensity of actions" of China against the PCG, Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos Jr. summoned Beijing's Ambassador Huang Xilian to discuss the incident on Feb. 14.

Marcos expressed "serious concern" over the laser event, according to spokeswoman Cheloy Velicaria-Garafil.

China's embassy in the Philippines said the officials talked about how to "properly manage maritime differences between China and the Philippines."

Before the Feb. 14 meeting between the Philippine head of state and Xilian, China's foreign ministry said that the actions of its coast guard were in accordance with the law. Beijing has neither specifically confirmed nor denied using lasers against the PCG vessel.

However, images captured during the event show a green and red light emanating from a Chinese ship with the number 5205 on its bow.

This isn't the first time in recent years China has reportedly used lasers against sovereign nations in the Indo-Pacific region. In February 2022, Australian officials reported an "act of intimidation" after a Chinese naval ship shot a laser beam at a military surveillance aircraft.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on February 14, 2023, 11:46:20 PM
Red and green? They were probably just celebrating Christmas.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on April 12, 2023, 04:36:41 PM

The current Chinese game of bluff in the sea between its coast and Taiwan.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on April 12, 2023, 05:11:59 PM
if they try they'll get only one shot at it and the global response will be way worse then whats happened with russia.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on April 12, 2023, 10:18:56 PM
The Chi-Comms are betting on their, 'Useful Idiots' in Taiwan getting them their desires without war. If this strategy fails, then force becomes the alternate resort. They won't go that route if they think, or imagine, they can, 'reunify' on the cheap.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on May 04, 2023, 10:14:54 AM
https://warontherocks.com/2023/05/xi-jinpings-worst-nightmare-a-potemkin-peoples-liberation-army/
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on May 04, 2023, 07:41:04 PM
^2027 eh? Good article...even a failed Chinese invasion of Taiwan would be worse for the rest of the world than the failed invasion of Ukraine. That makes total sense to me.

I also like how the author called the 2020s the 'decade of living dangerously.' Definitely feels like that, even sitting here in the US.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Windigo on May 05, 2023, 09:43:51 AM
Meh, the world will play its geopolitical games.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on May 05, 2023, 10:41:54 AM
I'm sure when you watched Napoleon march across Europe you said the same thing.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on May 05, 2023, 12:06:05 PM
Yes, but it was in French.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on May 05, 2023, 12:34:42 PM
French Canadian.

(Because "Wendigo".)
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on May 05, 2023, 01:16:49 PM
 :Nerd:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Windigo on May 05, 2023, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 05, 2023, 10:41:54 AMI'm sure when you watched Napoleon march across Europe you said the same thing.

Fortress North America Baby!
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on May 05, 2023, 02:54:26 PM
French Canadian confirmed.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: FarAway Sooner on May 05, 2023, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Windigo on May 05, 2023, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 05, 2023, 10:41:54 AMI'm sure when you watched Napoleon march across Europe you said the same thing.

Fortress North America Baby!

Weren't the Redcoats burning Washington, D.C. to the ground around the same time that Napoleon was marching across Europe?
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Windigo on May 05, 2023, 05:02:47 PM
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on May 05, 2023, 03:06:53 PM
Quote from: Windigo on May 05, 2023, 02:16:15 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 05, 2023, 10:41:54 AMI'm sure when you watched Napoleon march across Europe you said the same thing.

Fortress North America Baby!

Weren't the Redcoats burning Washington, D.C. to the ground around the same time that Napoleon was marching across Europe?

T'was a mere bush party that got out of hand.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on May 05, 2023, 09:25:02 PM
^That's...what she said  :Party:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on May 05, 2023, 10:09:03 PM
If Dolly Madison had broken-out a keg or two of ale and a set of Cricket Sticks, the Brits would've never struck a match.  :coolsmiley:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: FarAway Sooner on May 06, 2023, 11:37:57 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on May 04, 2023, 10:14:54 AMhttps://warontherocks.com/2023/05/xi-jinpings-worst-nightmare-a-potemkin-peoples-liberation-army/

I know I gave a response to this, but I forgot to say what a well thought-out article this was.  Lots of good material in here, and a clear indication that, if missiles ever start flying around Taiwan, it'll be a lose-lose for everybody involved.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Windigo on May 08, 2023, 11:20:36 AM
Chinese leadership is so vested into their positions and lifestyle, they won't give that up for the sake of a minor territory.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on May 08, 2023, 08:43:36 PM
What I've been calling the Silk Road project (which is also its informal name), formally known in English translation as the Belt and Road Initiative, has a bit of an update on its janky collapse.

Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on May 08, 2023, 10:50:48 PM
whats the tldr of it?

the irony of asking you of all ppl.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on May 09, 2023, 09:14:05 AM
Economic force
needs a path to follow west
owned by Chinese arms.

Make bad loans and then
take their land with ports and things
building out the path.

Bad loans eat up cash,
never coming back, but hey! --
now more Chinese land!

Land gets worthless fast,
if nations suck so bad they
cannot pay back loans.

Then the plan implodes!
Holy bleep we need Taiwan!
How to get that done?!?

****************

The TSDU (too short didn't understand) version:

China has been loan sharking nations with bad chances of paying off, in order to gain land with resource and/or logistic facilities (like ports or diamond mines) when the loans default. The goal was to create Chinese-owned logistic resource and transfer paths westward across Asia and Africa into Europe.

They've done so much of this, that the necessary loss in their working capital (ironically) has had a significant impact on their own stumbling economy contributing to a coming crash; while the facilities (with territory) they're getting in return are increasingly handicapped by the local surrounding governments crashing even harder. (To pull a random example, a port facility or diamond mine isn't much good if you can't get enough fresh water or electricity to it.) Sri Lanka's nearly total collapse is a particularly damaging example. The video is catching up on some details since the channel's prior report a few months ago.

The pressures and goals involved in the BRI have radically variable effects on China's intentions toward Taiwan: they need Taiwan in itself more than ever (and not only as an important staging area for their BNI plans, but that, too); but China is increasingly handicapped, partly thanks to the BNI plan's implosion, about being able to support a takeover of Taiwan (or even stage an attempt to begin with).

There has also been some strategic speculation (not in this video as I recall) that with China's economic implosion on the way, Xi may be gearing up to try to take Taiwan even though he knows he's 100% sure to fail spectacularly, so that he can blame China's coming economic collapse on Western military action, which would be preferable in several ways than the CCP having to acknowledge its own responsibility for the collapse. The CCP is well aware, from its ideology if nothing else, that the destruction of a society's stability leads to revolution which a nation will be unable to effectively resist; so being able to point to a definite external threat would at least shift the apparent blame to someone else and allow for a call to circle the wagons for defensive cultural solidarity.

Edited to add: the BNI plan has a lot of relation to the Ukraine war, too, since China wants an overland staging area to the Black Sea.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Windigo on May 09, 2023, 10:21:23 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on May 08, 2023, 10:50:48 PMwhats the tldr of it?

the irony of asking you of all ppl.

 :ROFL:  :ROFL:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: FarAway Sooner on May 11, 2023, 09:43:56 AM
Jason, is that haiku composition above original, or did ChatGPT write it for you?

 :police:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on May 11, 2023, 11:10:32 AM
I don't even know
how to ChatGPT
as far as you know.

 :evil:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on May 11, 2023, 11:50:47 AM
I tried to chat with ChatGPT and it told me to go away and stop bothering it. But it keeps sending me pics of Retirement Homes. Seems kind of cheeky to me.  :shocked:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on May 11, 2023, 12:05:15 PM
At least it isn't going Fatal Attraction on you! -- there are reports of that actually happening. (By 'actually' I mean 'by text', though it may still count as psychological ops.)
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on May 30, 2023, 03:48:39 PM
seems pretty dickish

https://twitter.com/i/status/1663645716458217483
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Tripoli on May 30, 2023, 03:54:04 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on May 30, 2023, 03:48:39 PMseems pretty dickish

https://twitter.com/i/status/1663645716458217483

The PRC can also be jerks at sea
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-65750908
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: ArizonaTank on August 31, 2023, 08:39:27 AM
The latest official Chinese map for 2023.

They are pretty much claiming the entire South China Sea down to Brunei, Sarawak and Vietnam (old news I know, but still shocking to see it on an official map).

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1696104724691570945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1696104724691570945%7Ctwgr%5E1cbfeef54dc4bf5ddc3f876685f4418fdf456326%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fputin-powerless-complain-about-china-claiming-russia-territory-1823513 (https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1696104724691570945?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1696104724691570945%7Ctwgr%5E1cbfeef54dc4bf5ddc3f876685f4418fdf456326%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fputin-powerless-complain-about-china-claiming-russia-territory-1823513)

Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Sir Slash on September 01, 2023, 10:32:18 AM
And, they plan to rename it, "Ping's Pond". Or, "The South China Sea--FOREVER".
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: JasonPratt on September 01, 2023, 03:30:48 PM
Didn't that map also claim some Russian territory? Those two river islands?
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Gusington on September 01, 2023, 03:51:44 PM
Hopefully.
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: ArizonaTank on October 29, 2023, 09:59:55 PM
The strange tale of the BRP Sierra Madre, a rusting hulk that is a China-Philippines flash point.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-the-rusting-wreck-of-a-second-world-war-ship-is-so-important-to-china/ar-AA1j3EUp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=NMTS&cvid=ef70316d2d014b629a188e5748110f1e&ei=212 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/why-the-rusting-wreck-of-a-second-world-war-ship-is-so-important-to-china/ar-AA1j3EUp?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=NMTS&cvid=ef70316d2d014b629a188e5748110f1e&ei=212)
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: ArizonaTank on March 12, 2024, 03:47:50 PM
Nice Wall Street Journal explainer on how a Chinese invasion of Taiwan might play out using a board based wargame. 

The scary part (besides the fact that US forces are engaged), is that China decides to attack US bases in Japan.


Interesting stuff, makes me want to pull out my copy of GMT's "Next War: Taiwan."
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on March 12, 2024, 07:41:38 PM
it would be kind of funny to watch the combined US and Japanese navies wreck the PLAN.  :pirate:
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: nelmsm on March 12, 2024, 08:07:03 PM
Quote from: ArizonaTank on March 12, 2024, 03:47:50 PMNice Wall Street Journal explainer on how a Chinese invasion of Taiwan might play out using a board based wargame. 

The scary part (besides the fact that US forces are engaged), is that China decides to attack US bases in Japan.


Interesting stuff, makes me want to pull out my copy of GMT's "Next War: Taiwan."

I'll be happy when they have the reprint of that available and I can get a copy. 
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: Skoop on March 13, 2024, 05:56:13 PM
I saw a clip months back where part of force 2030 rebuild has the marines launching land based tomahawks from atolls in the south China sea.  Marines lose their tanks, but gain batteries of tomahawks.  Seems like China's worse nightmare. 
Title: Re: South China Sea Heats Up
Post by: GDS_Starfury on March 13, 2024, 06:43:12 PM
what I told you those Tomahawks use Marines as cluster munitions....