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Title: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 26, 2021, 03:41:22 PM
Having just sold my secondary rig, which was a modest 9th generation i7 with a 2080 Ti, and eager to get my hands on intel's new 12th generation of processors, I just built this monster from CyberPowerPC:

CAS: [RAZER EDITION] LIAN LI PC-O11 Dynamic ATX Mid-Tower Dual chamber Gaming Case w/ USB 3.1 Type-C, Tempered glass on the front & side
CPU: Intel® Core™ Processor i9-12900K 8P/16 + 8E 3.20GHz [Turbo 5.2GHz] 30MB Cache
FAN: CyberPowerPC DEEPCOOL Castle 240EX ARGB 240mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooling System w/ Copper Cold Plate (2 x Standard 120MM Fans)
FREEBIE_MB: Dual Band 802.11ac AC600 Wireless USB Network Adapter [+0]
HDD: 2TB SAMSUNG 980 PRO PCIe 4.0 NVMe M.2 SSD - Seq R/W: Up to 7000/5100 MB/s, Rnd R/W up to 1000/1000k [+314] (Single Drive)
HDD2: 4TB (4TBx1) SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64MB Cache 5400RPM HDD [-1] (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB Ports (Based on motherboard and case selection)
KEYBOARD: CyberPowerPC Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard
MEMORY: 64GB (16GBx4) DDR4/3200MHz Dual Channel Memory [+300] (Performance Memory by Major Brands)
MOTHERBOARD: MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 ATX ARGB 2.5GbE LAN 3 PCIE X16, 1PCIE X1 6 SATA3 3X M.2 SATA/PCIE
OS: Windows 11 Home
OVERCLOCK: Pro OC (Performance Overclock 10% or more) [+19]
POWERSUPPLY: 1,000 Watts - Standard 80 Plus Gold Power Supply
PROMOSALE1: CyberPowerPC FPS Gaming Mouse Pad [+0] (Large 14x12 Inches)
RUSH: Standard processing time: Guaranteed Delivery Before Christmas or Earlier.
SERVICE: 3 Years FREE Service Plan (INCLUDES LABOR AND LIFETIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
VIDEO: GeForce RTX™ 3080 Ti 12GB GDDR6X (Ampere) [VR Ready] (Single Card)

I'll bet you DCS in VR will still struggle, but nothing else on the planet better!
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: bobarossa on November 26, 2021, 05:08:28 PM
Do you own stock in your local electric company?   :)
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Father Ted on November 26, 2021, 05:12:33 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 26, 2021, 03:41:22 PM
Having just sold my secondary rig, which was a modest 9th generation i7 with a 2080 Ti

That is the basis of my NEW rig - how the other half live, eh?
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: steve58 on November 26, 2021, 05:35:51 PM
Very nice, but Windows 11 already? 
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 26, 2021, 05:41:33 PM
Quote from: bobarossa on November 26, 2021, 05:08:28 PM
Do you own stock in your local electric company?   :)

All part of my evil plan.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 26, 2021, 05:42:07 PM
Quote from: steve58 on November 26, 2021, 05:35:51 PM
Very nice, but Windows 11 already?

It's going to happen eventually anyway. Meanwhile, none of my other rigs will be updated to win11.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 26, 2021, 06:01:14 PM
Been on windows 11 since release day, no issues for me, not really a drastic difference from windows 10.  all games and software work with no issues.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: W8taminute on November 26, 2021, 07:03:47 PM
Nice specs on the new system JH.  Let us know how this beast performs once you put it through the paces.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 26, 2021, 07:10:40 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on November 26, 2021, 07:03:47 PM
Nice specs on the new system JH.  Let us know how this beast performs once you put it through the paces.

It's got like a 4 week lead time, so it'll be awhile!
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: W8taminute on November 28, 2021, 04:58:22 PM
Oh wow.  Well hopefully it will arrive sooner.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 07, 2021, 03:34:04 AM
Shockingly, this shipped today! Should have it by next Monday.

I'll be honest. I sort of bought this on impulse on Black Friday and after looking a little deeper at reviews for CyberPowerPC, I started to get pretty nervous. A lot of killer negativity out there. Shit being DOA out of the box, bad quality assembly, careless packaging, extremely poor customer service and warranty policies, etc. I was considering canceling. But, they assembled and shipped so quickly despite the holidays and I had no trouble reaching someone on the phone with a couple of questions so I figured give them a chance. I guess it's like anything else...the people who are pissed are the loudest and the ones who are happy are too busy playing. I had no issues with my CyberPowerPC pre-built, which I beat up for two years.

I've got 30-days for a full refund if it gives me any aggravation. Still, my fingers are crossed.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Gusington on December 07, 2021, 07:38:27 AM
The CyberPower PC I bought 10+ years ago is still running without issue.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 07, 2021, 07:44:47 AM
I bought one years ago and didn't have good luck with it.  Not well put together and had nothing but issues with it where it locked up a d had errors, even after clean installs.  Had to return it and they didn't make it easy. From that point on I have always built my own, which I have never had a major issue since.  I understand people not enjoying that, but I do and nice to pick the components I want and usually only takes a few hours.

With that said, it was long ago and certainly could have just a bad unit which every brand could have. 

Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 07, 2021, 07:57:54 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 07, 2021, 07:44:47 AM
I bought one years ago and didn't have good luck with it.  Not well put together and had nothing but issues with it where it locked up a d had errors, even after clean installs.  Had to return it and they didn't make it easy. From that point on I have always built my own, which I have never had a major issue since.  I understand people not enjoying that, but I do and nice to pick the components I want and usually only takes a few hours.

With that said, it was long ago and certainly could have just a bad unit which every brand could have.

I did pick most of the parts that were put into the build, so none of them are really cheap low quality or after market parts. Intel processor, msi motherboard, gigabyte gpu, Samsung ssd, etc. The only major component that I did not specifically select by brand is the ram, but it is described as "performance memory by major brands". The build is so expensive, I needed to try to save money somewhere. Hopefully that won't be my downfall.

Honestly, I'm most concerned about quality at the manufacturing level given the impact of COVID, labor and materials shortages. QA has dropped drastically. In my last CLX build, two different GPUs arrived pretty much DOA. That had nothing to do with the retailer. Apparently, it is extremely common these days.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 07, 2021, 08:11:18 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on December 07, 2021, 07:57:54 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 07, 2021, 07:44:47 AM
I bought one years ago and didn't have good luck with it.  Not well put together and had nothing but issues with it where it locked up a d had errors, even after clean installs.  Had to return it and they didn't make it easy. From that point on I have always built my own, which I have never had a major issue since.  I understand people not enjoying that, but I do and nice to pick the components I want and usually only takes a few hours.

With that said, it was long ago and certainly could have just a bad unit which every brand could have.

I did pick most of the parts that were put into the build, so none of them are really cheap low quality or after market parts. Intel processor, msi motherboard, gigabyte gpu, Samsung ssd, etc. The only major component that I did not specifically select by brand is the ram, but it is described as "performance memory by major brands". The build is so expensive, I needed to try to save money somewhere. Hopefully that won't be my downfall.

Honestly, I'm most concerned about quality at the manufacturing level given the impact of COVID, labor and materials shortages. QA has dropped drastically. In my last CLX build, two different GPUs arrived pretty much DOA. That had nothing to do with the retailer. Apparently, it is extremely common these days.

It's funny, the main issue seemed relaed to the memory in my case:)  I bet you will be fine, this was 10+ years ago anyways.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: MengJiao on December 07, 2021, 09:09:12 AM
Quote from: Gusington on December 07, 2021, 07:38:27 AM
The CyberPower PC I bought 10+ years ago is still running without issue.

  Two good CyberPowers running here too (one at 2 years and one at almost 1 year).
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Gusington on December 07, 2021, 10:19:58 AM
10 years is double the lifetime I expect for my machines so I have no complaints, but of course the machine was built 10 years before COVID or supply chain woes, as JH posted.

That said the HP Omen machine and Alienware supermonitor I upgraded to last December, at the height of COVID but before supply chain woes, have given me nothing but joy and squeals of delight. The only issue is one single, solitary dead pixel on the monitor screen that is off in the wilderness of the viewable area and barely noticeable 99% of the time.

Perhaps I'm lucky.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 13, 2021, 04:40:04 PM
New rig arrived today from CyberPowerPC. I was impressed overall with the packaging and materials included inside the box. The tower looked good and everything inside appeared secure. On setup I had some artifacting on the screen that scared the shit out of me. This was reminiscent of the issues I had with my AMD CLX rig, wherein two consecutive GPUs shit the bed and had to be replaced.  Thankfully, on reboot it went away and has been purring since. My fingers are crossed.

I've checked system details and everything I ordered appears to be on board. I've only installed mozilla, steam and some other game client software, so have not actually run anything yet.  So far, without jinxing it, I am pleased.

I'm nervous, but cautiously optimistic as I wade into deeper waters.  Wish me luck.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Gusington on December 13, 2021, 04:45:27 PM
Curious to hear how quiet it is once you run some games.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 13, 2021, 06:52:31 PM
Quote from: Gusington on December 13, 2021, 04:45:27 PM
Curious to hear how quiet it is once you run some games.

Ran Ghost Recon: Breakpoint. Purrs like a kitten. Literally did not make a sound. My old 2080Ti rig sounded like a lawnmower.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: W8taminute on December 13, 2021, 06:54:09 PM
Sweet.  Congrats man and game on!
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Gusington on December 13, 2021, 08:16:18 PM
Nice. My older machines were also very loud. My new machine (well one year old now) is touted as super quiet but it still hums every so often on more intensive games...which slightly disappoints me.
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 13, 2021, 09:01:20 PM
Installed Cyberpunk 2077 and now working on Arma 3, which is a beast at over 100 gb. Probably won't be able to play anything tonight.  Tomorrow, DCS, IL-2 BoX, MSFS, Elite Dangerous and Star Citizen. Will also set up VR and then use these to benchmark before moving on to anything else. 
Title: Re: New Rig, part deux
Post by: Jarhead0331 on December 22, 2021, 09:53:23 AM
We're a little past the one week mark and so far I have been nothing but impressed. The rig runs flawlessly and chews up anything I throw at it. The frame rates I'm getting in DCS are the best I have ever managed and that is without a major struggle to tweak settings. I've installed a wide range of games and it seems to run everything very well and it is silent across the board. GPU temps never exceed 65-68 degrees Celsius under the heaviest of loads. So my concerns over cooling have thus far not been proven to be grounds for worry.

I actually feel bad that my CLX rig, which is a beast in its own right, is now totally under utilized. Because of my setup, its just easier to fire this new rig up, rather than climb into my simpit where the CLX rig is set up. Also, with better performance and less hassle, I find myself preferring to run DCS on the new rig, even though I'm not using my Pimax VR headset or any of my fancy sim peripherals.

In any event, no CyberPowerPC complaints from me yet. I remain cautiously optimistic.