Too Star Trek-y?

[Huw the Poo]

OK let's right some wrongs in this thread. :P

First and foremost: The reboots are very much Star Trek.  "Moralising" is what makes Star Trek superior to, say, Star Wars which is essentially a kids' film.  Any idiot can film a giant starship battle.  Star Trek portrays a utopian future in which considerations such as race and money have long been cast aside, and Humanity is finally exploring space properly.  It's Trek because it lives up to the ideals.  In the first reboot, two captains go aboard the Romulan vessel without a second thought for personal safety.  Both know they're unlikely to return.  Both give their second officers plans to ensure the losses aren't in vain.  On both occasions, the crews jump into action and carry out the plans to the best of their abilities.  And it's all done under fantastic direction from JJ Abrams via a cast who for the most part absolutely nail the roles they're effectively reprising.

I think the reboots are fantastic, and I say this as a lifelong Trek fan.  They're exciting, dramatic, expertly directed, amazingly well cast and acted, and they superbly walk the fine line between fan service and making a generally good film.

[BanzaiCat]

Let's take it a step further.

I think we can all agree that Flash Gordon > Star Trek and Star Wars.

[Martok]

If we're going to devolve into making absurd statements, then I'm going to add my own and say that Kanye West is a better performer than Bob Dylan.  ::) 

[BanzaiCat]

zOMG ABSURD?!?!?!?!11  >:(

[bbmike]

OK let's right some wrongs in this thread. :P

First and foremost: The reboots are very much Star Trek.  "Moralising" is what makes Star Trek superior to, say, Star Wars which is essentially a kids' film.  Any idiot can film a giant starship battle.  Star Trek portrays a utopian future in which considerations such as race and money have long been cast aside, and Humanity is finally exploring space properly.  It's Trek because it lives up to the ideals.  In the first reboot, two captains go aboard the Romulan vessel without a second thought for personal safety.  Both know they're unlikely to return.  Both give their second officers plans to ensure the losses aren't in vain.  On both occasions, the crews jump into action and carry out the plans to the best of their abilities.  And it's all done under fantastic direction from JJ Abrams via a cast who for the most part absolutely nail the roles they're effectively reprising.

I think the reboots are fantastic, and I say this as a lifelong Trek fan.  They're exciting, dramatic, expertly directed, amazingly well cast and acted, and they superbly walk the fine line between fan service and making a generally good film.

Huw the Poo, I say this with the utmost respect- put down the crack pipe. 
Brant, if he doesn't put down the crack pipe....did we add the 'ignore user' option yet?  :P

[Nefaro]

I still want a Star Trek war movie. 

I can't be bargained with.  I can't be reasoned with.  And I absolutely will not stop, ever, until that is done.

:))


I'd even settle for one with the Klingons as the main focus of the film.  ^-^

[Centurion40]

I still want a Star Trek war movie. 

I can't be bargained with.  I can't be reasoned with.  And I absolutely will not stop, ever, until that is done.

:))


I'd even settle for one with the Klingons as the main focus of the film.  ^-^

YES!!!

[mirth]

+1 on a Klingon focused movie, though I think the time to that was when TNG films were still going and Worf was a popular and known character.

[Centurion40]

I want the next film to have Klingons as the prime adversaries.  Just please knock-off the lens flare!

[mirth]

Interestingly, Michael Dorn is still pushing for a "Captain Worf" show

http://screenrant.com/captain-worf-star-trek-tv-show-michael-dorn-interview/

[Martok]

+1 on a Klingon focused movie, though I think the time to that was when TNG films were still going and Worf was a popular and known character.

Agreed, on both counts. 

[bbmike]

I wouldn't mind a dark, gritty movie on the first Romulan war (with the caveat that non of that TV show Enterprise stuff is included).

[mirth]

As Martok mentioned, this is our great hope for a '"classic" Trek movie. And it'll be a war movie too!

[JasonPratt]

Don't care what kind of Star Trek story is done, assuming it's "in the milieu", so long as:

1a.) they either make a good case for the Starfleet Ethic (which TOS did the best on, in my opinion, though still somewhat shakily);

or

1b.) they critique the Starfleet Ethic while still respecting the general ideal (best done in my opinion on DS9);

and

2.) they don't stoop to aggressively stupid plot contrivances or things that merely look nifty but make no sense -- which has haunted the series, whether TV or films, from day one, up to the current day;

while

3.) a cast of interesting and entertaining characters work out aspects of personal interrelationships while solving problems scientifically (which is pretty standard for sci-fi ensemble shows, but the point is that ST probably should be a sci-fi ensemble show).

Other than that I don't really care, aside from some attachment to pre-established characters (including the original TOS-era Enterprise).

[Nefaro]

Other than that I don't really care, aside from some attachment to pre-established characters (including the original TOS-era Enterprise).

Original movie series Enterprise sexiest Enterprise.




Not too antique sci-fi looking, with the nutty kaleidoscope engine cowls, but still resembles original.  Also doesn't look like a half-melted Salvadore Dali slug like the later ones.  :P  Nearly all the ships from that period looked awesome (Reliant, Excelsior, Birds of Prey, etc).




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