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Title: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 28, 2022, 11:50:47 PM
I would like to think that all of us here have been or can be behind the women and youth of Iran.  I'm impressed at how they're not giving in!
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: MengJiao on October 29, 2022, 09:44:00 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 28, 2022, 11:50:47 PM
I would like to think that all of us here have been or can be behind the women and youth of Iran.  I'm impressed at how they're not giving in!

  Well, if they are going to beat you to death for wearing your scarf wrong, why not get beaten to death for burning a few morality policemen?  I guess
the morality police finally pushed women into a corner and they feel they might as well fight since they get beaten to death for showing their faces anyway.

  I have no idea what the social dynamics are of the insurrection -- for example how much of the population is actually in the uprising, but it would be nice
if the morality police stopped beating girls to death.  I guess one can always hope for such basic improvements in morality police behavior -- but who's to say how
likely that is?
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 29, 2022, 09:45:59 AM
its seems to be a sizable percentage of their population which also happens to be mostly under the age of 35.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: FarAway Sooner on October 30, 2022, 02:00:45 PM
There was an interesting feature on NPR this morning that traced the evolution of Islamic law relating to women and the unique aspects of Iranian feminism since the Revolution this morning.   I wasn't able to listen to it consistently enough to get a sense for where the news story was heading, but there was more history and nuance to the history of the last 40 years there than I had realized.

Clearly, Mahsa Amini's death served as a spark that in a powder keg.  One thing that's particularly interesting here is how united Iranian women seem to have been.  I'm not sure how prominently Iranian females have been in previous protests against Iran's Revolutionary government, but there are now millions of them defying the hardline regime every day.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 30, 2022, 02:18:41 PM
there are also a lot of young men that are supporting them which is awesome!
its not like the youth of Iran has been happy with the regime.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 30, 2022, 03:35:55 PM
still going strong!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1586689711644545025
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Gusington on October 30, 2022, 04:08:37 PM
I wish them the best. I hope this doesn't end with a Tiananmen style crack down.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: jamus34 on October 30, 2022, 04:48:52 PM
Quote from: Gusington on October 30, 2022, 04:08:37 PM
I wish them the best. I hope this doesn't end with a Tiananmen style crack down.

Unfortunately revolutions usually end badly for someone.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Sir Slash on October 30, 2022, 10:38:12 PM
The regime won't go down easy. There will be blood in the streets, first the protesters and then maybe the police as well. Look for the Revolutionary Guard to start cracking heads if the police can't handle things soon.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Skoop on October 31, 2022, 01:06:08 PM
Quote from: Sir Slash on October 30, 2022, 10:38:12 PM
The regime won't go down easy. There will be blood in the streets, first the protesters and then maybe the police as well. Look for the Revolutionary Guard to start cracking heads if the police can't handle things soon.

Why not arm them like mujahedeen style.  Iran certainly deserves it for decades of treachery around the globe and for meddling in Ukraine.  Just like Putin, the only thing those douche bag rulers in iran understand is armed force.  Imagine the statement those protesters would make when they are fighting back with javelins, stingers, and switchblade drones. 

I feel like javelins have become the symbol of democracy by force in 2022 versus the AK47's symbol of communist revolutions in the 70's.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 31, 2022, 02:10:51 PM
I think thats a great way for the whole thing to fail in this case.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Sir Slash on October 31, 2022, 09:50:07 PM
I would love for the people of Iran to rise-up and overthrow this evil bunch but I don't believe they stand a chance unless they're willing to lose a lot of lives in the process. The Govt. there has no conscious, but they're own survival.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: FarAway Sooner on November 02, 2022, 05:40:57 PM
Yeah.  My sense is that widespread passive resistance is more likely to bring about change there than any degree of armed militant resistance.  But the only way to drive regime change is to make the current regime kill so many innocents that the army finally decides they've had it. 

I think the hardliners have used this as a chance to crack down on opposition leaders (journalists, academics, etc.).  Iran continues to stew in its own crap.  Until somebody in the country can get better organized than the hardliners, I'm not sure how to bring about relatively peaceful change.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 21, 2022, 10:42:43 AM
more defiant protests from the Iranian soccer team with crowd support.
I really hope the youth of Iran has had enough and so far it seems they have.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: W8taminute on November 21, 2022, 01:54:04 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on November 21, 2022, 10:42:43 AM
more defiant protests from the Iranian soccer team with crowd support.
I really hope the youth of Iran has had enough and so far it seems they have.

I saw that on Twitter I think.  Yeah they are getting defiant. 

To date the IRCG has killed over 400 protesters across 155 cities in Iran. 
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Pete Dero on November 21, 2022, 02:09:29 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on November 21, 2022, 10:42:43 AM
more defiant protests from the Iranian soccer team with crowd support.
I really hope the youth of Iran has had enough and so far it seems they have.

Iranian state television interrupted the broadcast during the hymn  :o.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: FarAway Sooner on November 26, 2022, 02:08:03 PM
The Iranian team sang the second game around (reportedly after being booed by their own fans for not singing), and they also beat Wales 2-0 with two goals in injury time.  Team USA takes on the Iranians early next week, and needs to deliver a win, else Iran advances out of pool play with England.

Team USA undoubtedly has the higher-ranked side, but the Iranians will be playing for a tie and the US side has had trouble breaking packed-in defenses forever. 

None of which matters a lick to the Iranian young people protesting and dying on a daily basis in the streets of Iran.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on November 28, 2023, 05:52:29 PM
hmmmmm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1729527767966859585
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Windigo on November 28, 2023, 06:06:29 PM
Ooof, that's a little too close.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Tripoli on November 29, 2023, 02:16:01 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on November 28, 2023, 05:52:29 PMhmmmmm

https://twitter.com/i/status/1729527767966859585

Reason #3476 why we never put a carrier in the Gulf prior to Gulf War I, but stayed outside the gulf on Gonzo Station.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Uberhaus on November 29, 2023, 03:19:10 PM
Iran is also populating the disputed islands in this choke point to strengthen its claims.  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/11/29/iran-strait-hormuz-islands-gulf-entrance-us-carrier-ike-csg/

Also, pro-Iranian hackers are behind the shutdown of automated water pumping systems in Pennsylvania.  https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/federal-officials-investigating-after-pro-iran-group-claims-to-have-hacked-water-authority-in-pennsylvania/ar-AA1kFdP1
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Windigo on November 29, 2023, 03:21:31 PM
Sooner or later we will have to take seriously internet enabled acts of sabotage. This should include all the troll farms and scams crossing international boundaries.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Gusington on November 29, 2023, 03:32:49 PM
^My employer takes the risk very seriously. The above link about the water authority is their worst nightmare.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 30, 2023, 04:20:56 PM
Was waiting for this...

Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Windigo on November 30, 2023, 05:02:47 PM
You can only poke the eagle so much... before you have it's attention in a bad way.
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 02, 2023, 03:34:37 PM
QuoteAircraft from Dwight D Eisenhower Carrier Air Wing intercepts an Iranian UAV operating in an unsafe and unprofessional manner during aircraft carrier flight operations in the Arabian Gulf. The U.S. Navy will continue to fly and sail where international law allows.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GAXmFYDaAAAeFji?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: Gusington on December 02, 2023, 04:09:51 PM
Was the drone shot down?
Title: Re: Iran
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 02, 2023, 04:58:02 PM
not that I know of.