Nork Nukes Nearing Nuisance?

[Airborne Rifles]

The Chains of War DLC for CMANO is really interesting in how it portrays a Chinese and Nork ballistic missile vs. US ABM systems. It's just a simulation, but our ABM capabilities seem pretty robust if it's accurate, especially with the THAAD and SM-3 systems.

[GDS_Starfury]

wheres that 747 with the nose mounted laser?

[bayonetbrant]

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/09/18/the-risk-of-nuclear-war-with-north-korea

Evan Osnos of The New Yorker joins and a conversation with Marly Rivera of ESPN and Luis Miguel Echegaray of SI
SI Media Podcast With Richard Deitsch

https://art19.com/shows/si-media-podcast/episodes/c50bb0e1-465f-4f89-bd10-587338f73c12

Episode 137 of the Sports Illustrated Media podcast features Evan Osnos, a staff writer for the New Yorker, whose latest piece from the Sept. 18, 2017 Issue is the titled "The Risk of Nuclear War with North Korea."

In this podcast, Osnos discusses his reporting inside Pyongyang; how he was able to get permission from the North Korean government to travel for his reporting; the real and perceived tension between North Korea and the United States; how Americans should view the North Korean diplomats who work in New York City; how forthcoming his North Korean minders were to him; whether he worked under the assumption that he was being filmed and his phone was tapped; how much anxiety he had on the assignment; how to report on U.S. intelligence's data on the progress of North Korea's weapons development; what North Koreans thought of Donald Trump; meeting children at the Pyongyang Orphans' Secondary School; what it was like to wake up in Pyongyang to a Donald Trump tweet on North Korea; how far he was able to extend outside the capital; whether Kim Jong-Un knew he was there; what his first 48 hours were like in North Korea, and much more.

[mirth]

The Chains of War DLC for CMANO is really interesting in how it portrays a Chinese and Nork ballistic missile vs. US ABM systems. It's just a simulation, but our ABM capabilities seem pretty robust if it's accurate, especially with the THAAD and SM-3 systems.

We've made a lot of progress in the last 25 years. Aegis/SM-3, in particular, seems like a very capable system. I'd give at least even money that we could knock down a Nork ballistic missile.

[JasonPratt]

US Ambassador Haley: the United Nations has gone as far as it can with NK.

http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/news/story/0002/20170917/KCN1BS0IN_2


Going to be a fun General Security Council this year... http://webcenters.netscape.compuserve.com/news/us/story/0002/20170917/KCN1BS0EH_2

(By 'fun' I do not mean fun.  :( )

[GDS_Starfury]

the problem isn't defeating north korea.
the problem is South Korea having to pay for a reunified Korea.

[Gusington]

Meh - Germany did it (over the course of 25 years), Korea can do it.

[Jarhead0331]

Meh - Germany did it (over the course of 25 years), Korea can do it.

Correction. The US tax payer did it. Germany was rebuilt with American money, So too will be the case with South Korea...at least, whatever is left of it.

[mirth]

Yeah, we'd foot most of the bill for a unified Korea.

[bayonetbrant]

Germany was rebuilt with American money

West Germany was.  But post-reunification, West Germany spent a lot of their own money on 'catching up' the Osties, with massive investments in infrastructure (roads & electric grids especially), education, and technology, as well as cleaning up a lot of post-Soviet environmental messes around military bases.

[Gusington]

^Yeah what I was referring to was post-1990 in Germany. That said, rebuilding/integrating North Korea with South Korea may be more difficult and more expensive. Hard to gauge which disparity was greater - the one between East and West Germany and the one between North and South Korea.

[Jarhead0331]

Germany was rebuilt with American money

West Germany was.  But post-reunification, West Germany spent a lot of their own money on 'catching up' the Osties, with massive investments in infrastructure (roads & electric grids especially), education, and technology, as well as cleaning up a lot of post-Soviet environmental messes around military bases.

I presume you mean EAST Germany spent a lot of their own money after re-unification. That's not really a good comparison since that effort was not directly after a destructive war. The Post-WWII effort to rebuild West Germany is much more synonymous to what would likely occur on the Korean Peninsula when and if we destroy much of it. 

[Jarhead0331]

^Yeah what I was referring to was post-1990 in Germany. That said, rebuilding/integrating North Korea with South Korea may be more difficult and more expensive. Hard to gauge which disparity was greater - the one between East and West Germany and the one between North and South Korea.

Then you too are using an example that in my opinion is not as compatible to what we will see in Korea in the event of a modern war.

[Gusington]

^The effort after another Korean War would be both, a combination of the Marshall Plan and the reunification plan in Germany. And probably cost trillions. But it could be done.

[Jarhead0331]

^The effort after another Korean War would be both, a combination of the Marshall Plan and the reunification plan in Germany. And probably cost trillions. But it could be done.

Can definitely be done. I'm just saying, we will be paying for it mostly.