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Title: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: steve58 on July 08, 2022, 08:04:13 AM
https://www.foxnews.com/world/shinzo-abe-shot-speech-former-japanese-prime-minister

Our world is getting more f*cked up by the hour....
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 08:32:12 AM
Just reading through this now...wow.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Sir Slash on July 08, 2022, 10:12:27 AM
Yes, terrible. And with a 'home-made' gun apparently.  :o  He should never have been able to get that close to Abe. But, maybe politicians should stay indoors to make speeches and such.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 10:26:34 AM
^Reading on BBC that until now politicians in Japan actually give speeches on street corners in cities amidst huge crowds of people.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: FarAway Sooner on July 08, 2022, 11:07:46 AM
Japan has always prided itself on the physical safety it affords to its citizens.  Their leading politicians have been no different.  Physical security within the borders of Japan has always been pretty minimalist.  This will rock Japanese society.

I've heard the same reports as SirPug.  Initial news reports suggest it was a gun made with a 3D printer, but I don't believe that has been confirmed yet. 

It sure seems like the world is going to Hell.  I wonder if the actual data backs that up, or if that's just the steady diet of fear that our media feeds us to keep us watching ads?  I don't honestly know.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 11:20:10 AM
^A little bit of both. Bad things have always happened but we didn't always have 24 hour instant access to them.

BBC reports that the homemade pistol was made from pipes and that the shooter was a [former] member of the Japanese Navy, so perhaps he had some experience in assembling firearms, etc.

The last political assassination in Japan was in 1960 with, yes, you guessed it...a samurai sword.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: al_infierno on July 08, 2022, 12:58:37 PM
Where there's a will, there's a way, eh?

From what I understand Abe was a bit of a war crimes denier and EOJ nationalist, so it'll be interesting to see how this high-profile assassination affects the Japanese public's views on his platform.  Are they gonna double down on the "Japan did nothing wrong" narrative he was pushing?
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 01:53:46 PM
^Yes he was quite a nationalist - which makes me wonder what the assassin's angle is, what he was thinking, etc., especially as Abe was the former PM and no longer in power.

Makes me wonder if there was some kind of external influence from a certain very large Asian nation with a long-standing historical grudge against the Japanese which also happens to not be India.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: al_infierno on July 08, 2022, 01:57:10 PM
Quote from: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 01:53:46 PM
^Yes he was quite a nationalist - which makes me wonder what the assassin's angle is, what he was thinking, etc., especially as Abe was the former PM and no longer in power.

Makes me wonder if there was some kind of external influence from a certain very large Asian nation with a long-standing historical grudge against the Japanese which also happens to not be India.

From the reports I've seen, the gunman is a former defense force serviceman who disliked Abe's politics.  And Abe apparently was still pretty well liked and influential in Japan.  At this point though it's hard to say for sure.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 02:19:50 PM
^Yes the shooter was in the navy.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Anguille on July 08, 2022, 03:22:46 PM
Terrible
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 08, 2022, 04:13:00 PM
Quote from: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 01:53:46 PM
^Yes he was quite a nationalist - which makes me wonder what the assassin's angle is, what he was thinking, etc., especially as Abe was the former PM and no longer in power.

Makes me wonder if there was some kind of external influence from a certain very large Asian nation with a long-standing historical grudge against the Japanese which also happens to not be India.

Messaging with some Japanese friends this morning.  They're more suspicious of a certain global economic forum than they are of their neighbours.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 04:14:31 PM
^Wow. I didn't think of that.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 08, 2022, 04:21:45 PM
I guess his last speech at Davos calling certain pharmaceuticals into question and touting a strong, independent Japan may not have gone over well.  Seems a bit tinfoily to me but then again, what was tinfoil 2 years ago seems to be true today.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Gusington on July 08, 2022, 04:39:04 PM
Tinfoil hats are so 2019.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 08, 2022, 04:45:52 PM
Faraday cages for everyone!
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Jarhead0331 on July 09, 2022, 09:12:58 AM
Details on the homemade weapon

Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 10, 2022, 10:12:40 PM
Abe was killed because he was a Moonie?  That wouldn't have been my guess.

https://shingetsunewsagency.com/2022/07/10/the-crime-that-killed-shinzo-abe/ (https://shingetsunewsagency.com/2022/07/10/the-crime-that-killed-shinzo-abe/)
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: JasonPratt on July 11, 2022, 08:51:07 AM
Huh. I had heard the shooter didn't really disagree with Abe's politics (per the police report), but that still left a motive up in the air.

Which smacked to me of Yakuza politics, so to speak.

The idea that Yamagami wanted to shoot a Moonie leader (for scamming his mother and thus his family into bankruptcy) but couldn't because that was too difficult, so shot Abe instead, seems ludicrous by Western standards of security, but as noted above maybe he really did have more of a shot.

The (anonymous?) twitter feed with that ShingetsuNews article is interesting, with suggestions that the new PM had plenty of motive to encourage someone to take out Abe.
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: ArizonaTank on July 11, 2022, 12:29:39 PM
I am pretty certain Abe was not a Moonie. However, Abe did cultivate Moonies as a reliable voting block, and was therefore friendly toward them. Moonies being pretty tightly connected to South Korea, are generally pretty anti-North and anti-Chinese communist. So they would have gravitated toward Abe's hawkish tendencies. 

I got the impression from one news report that Abe's campaign stop that day had only been inserted into the schedule the previous day. So not a bunch of time for pre-planning on the assassin's part. 
Title: Re: Former Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe assassinated
Post by: Boggit on July 13, 2022, 12:11:21 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 08, 2022, 04:21:45 PM
I guess his last speech at Davos calling certain pharmaceuticals into question and touting a strong, independent Japan may not have gone over well.  Seems a bit tinfoily to me but then again, what was tinfoil 2 years ago seems to be true today.
Given what is going on with "The Great Reset", the Green agenda, and Agenda 2030 you may be right. Abe was very pro Japan, an internationalist, but not a globalist. Was he removed as an obstacle to WEF plans? Who knows? Maybe? It's not as though such things have never happened in the past  when the stakes were high enough.

During the Covid thing ordinary people with dissenting or questioning views were shut down by government and big tech. National leaders are harder to censor. A few African leaders who opposed Big Pharma conveniently died at this time. I don't know if there was foul play or not, but the timing of the deaths is very convenient for the Davos agenda's.
https://newsrescue.com/five-presidents-who-opposed-covid-vaccines-have-conveniently-died-been-replaced-by-pro-vaxxers/

Now there's a lot of weird shit going on with government policy and farming in Europe and the UK that defy logic given global food shortages and supply chain issues that were going on well before Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Odd too that Bill Gates is BTW now the largest owner of farmland in the USA. I wasn't aware he was really into agriculture, but his "Beyond Meat" products fit very nicely into the Davos Green agenda. Enjoy your Bug Burgers! :o

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/07/good-grub-why-we-might-be-eating-insects-soon/
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/publication/supply-chains
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/dec/18/global-supply-chain-crisis-could-last-another-two-years-warn-experts
https://geopolitics.co/2022/02/03/global-elites-kill-and-control-agenda-destroying-our-food-security/
https://www.europereloaded.com/farm-to-fork-how-the-eu-and-the-davos-cabal-plan-to-control-agriculture/
https://unitynewsnetwork.co.uk/nothing-to-see-in-hollandapparently/
https://www.nutritruth.org/single-post/bill-gates-says-he-will-force-you-to-eat-fake-meat

This is all speculation, but as we now know by now the difference between a conspiracy theory and a fact seems to be about six months! ^-^
https://bgr.com/science/coronavirus-usa-dr-fauci-says-covid-19-doesnt-come-from-a-lab/
https://nypost.com/2021/06/03/fauci-rejects-claims-he-was-told-covid-may-have-been-engineered/