I dare you not to cheer. Or cry. Or poo yourself. 8)
https://www.facebook.com/StarWars/videos/935593286492273/
Might just wipe that jar jar blinks taste out of your mouth...looking good so far. O0
Well... my shorts are still clean. One out of three's not bad, eh?
I watched it three times already. The opening shot with the wreck is just unbelievable. Reminds me of the beginning of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
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dammit!
(but that wreck looks freakin' awesome)
Bah. Jar Jar Abrams is a menace to SciFidom. Though I will say he is much more suited to Star Wars.
[edit] And shouldn't Chewie have some gray hairs like Han? :P
Yeah.......
I'm in.
Thsts a lot of cgi getting rid off Harrisons wrinkles.
I'm now thinking that the black guy will turn out to be 'a little short to be a Stormtrooper' (even if he's not actually short).
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on April 16, 2015, 06:16:46 PM
Thsts a lot of cgi getting rid off Harrisons wrinkles.
:2funny:
Ok I have to admit that my eyes did well up a bit when I saw Han and Chewie. Dammit Gus why did you have to say we're gonna cry seeing this preview. ;D
This is gonna be good! That shiny black armored tie fighter pilot made me cream my jeans. O0
^Yes...YES...feel it flow through you!
I thought they CGI'd extra wrinkles onto Ford's face...will have to verify.
And God knows what Mark Hamill will look like. Not as good as the wreck in the opening scene, I'm sure.
Some co-workers went to nerdcon here in Vancouver a few weeks ago and got their photos with Carrie Fisher. She looks like a crazy lady who hangs out in a convenience store all day playing Keno. Did not age well....
I read one of her more recent biographical works, I forget the name. She's pretty funny.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on April 16, 2015, 06:16:46 PM
Thsts a lot of cgi getting rid off Harrisons wrinkles.
Saw an interview with Charlton Heston once. He was asked about how long it took for makeup to may him look older. He said it to a lot more to make him look younger. :2funny:
Quote from: MetalDog on April 16, 2015, 08:30:15 PM
I read one of her more recent biographical works, I forget the name. She's pretty funny.
I caught one of her narrative bio things on cable a few years ago. Got some chuckles. Recall something about how she was high on the Star Wars sets all the time, and other such tidbits.
Wrecked space ship? I thought that was Mark Hamill. How come everybody gets to come back except for Boba Fett? I might as well send them my money now.
Just watched the trailer. Is it Christmas yet?
SAY YES!!!!
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Is that what all the cats at the pool were telling you today?
Quote from: bbmike on April 16, 2015, 05:57:09 PM
And shouldn't Chewie have some gray hairs like Han? :P
only on the back, i guess ...the perfect Leonard, Sheldon, Raj and Howard canteen table discussion theme 'how does wookies age' ;D
Quote from: Sir Slash on April 16, 2015, 10:46:15 PM
Wrecked space ship? I thought that was Mark Hamill. How come everybody gets to come back except for Boba Fett? I might as well send them my money now.
Boba Fett is slowly being digested by the Great Sarlacc of Karkoun. I don't think he's coming home anytime soon. :'(
^^^
Just wait. As soon as it's convenient, Disney will declare those movies didn't happen and recast Boba Fett as a Gungan.
Here's something cool - NFL teams re-imagined as Star Wars teams.
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Worst passing offense in history!
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NFC: https://www.behance.net/gallery/9234099/STAR-WARS-National-Football-League
AFC: https://www.behance.net/gallery/9233923/STAR-WARS-American-Football-League
They didn't do a very good job of warping the logos to follow the contour of the helmet...I only notice that because I did about 1,000 Photoshops of helmet logos a few years back... :D
Also, this trailer pleases me.
Quote from: W8taminute on April 17, 2015, 05:28:29 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on April 16, 2015, 10:46:15 PM
Wrecked space ship? I thought that was Mark Hamill. How come everybody gets to come back except for Boba Fett? I might as well send them my money now.
Boba Fett is slowly being digested by the Great Sarlacc of Karkoun. I don't think he's coming home anytime soon. :'(
Actually...well, he does survive the Sarlacc, but that's in the books somewhere, and therefore being pointedly ignored by Disney et al. I hope they bring this character back, though. I can't imagine they will not.
What's the bet on when the hardcore nerds are going to start camping out in front of theaters for this movie?
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 17, 2015, 05:59:57 AM
What's the bet on when the hardcore nerds are going to start camping out in front of theaters for this movie?
I saw some RV's in the parking lot of the local multi-screen cinema.
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Quote from: MetalDog on April 16, 2015, 08:30:15 PM
I read one of her more recent biographical works, I forget the name. She's pretty funny.
Yeah, I watched her one-woman-show on HBO. I thought that she was great, although she looks like a bingo-bag.
Yes her days of fleshy bikinis are long gone.
That wookie barely looks a day over 30.......how does Chewie do it
Con
She was looking pretty hot up until sometime around Soap Dish. I remember thinking :o ^-^ when I saw her in that movie.
Con, I think they used the same CGI effects on Chewie as they did on Harrison.
Quote from: Gusington on April 17, 2015, 07:51:32 AM
Yes her days of fleshy bikinis are long gone.
oh, there would be plenty of flesh if she were in a bikini today
:o ::)
I think Chewie uses "Just For Wookies" to keep the grey out and does a comb-over. A really big comb-over.
Meh. I'm feeling pretty ambivalent at this point.
It's not even Jar-Jar Abrams' fault (this time). I'm admittedly still butt-hurt over all the Expanded Universe novels being thrown out the airlock as being "non-canon"; it's going to be a long time before I'm ready to get over that. >:(
(Like my shirt says, "Zahn wrote first"!!)
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 16, 2015, 07:46:51 PM
Some co-workers went to nerdcon here in Vancouver a few weeks ago and got their photos with Carrie Fisher. She looks like a crazy lady who hangs out in a convenience store all day playing Keno. Did not age well....
I heard she had a stroke several years back. If true, I imagine that affected her in the looks department.
In this film, when Leila says to Han, "I love you", Han says back, "Ehhh. What'd you say? I can't hear a damned thing you're saying. You know you're on my bad side don't you?" And then,"Somebody get those damned kids off the Millenium Falcon" as his dentures slip. Seriously, folks this stuff writes itself. :-X
Quote from: Martok on April 17, 2015, 02:03:24 PM
Meh. I'm feeling pretty ambivalent at this point.
It's not even Jar-Jar Abrams' fault (this time). I'm admittedly still butt-hurt over all the Expanded Universe novels being thrown out the airlock as being "non-canon"; it's going to be a long time before I'm ready to get over that. >:(
(Like my shirt says, "Zahn wrote first"!!)
A thought occurred to me after reading your comment. Zahn was probably thrown out the airlock so that all the profit money from the new movie can go straight into JJ's pocket and he doesn't have to pay Zahn royalties.
It's about the money. Not fan loyalty. Money.
They're still going to have the highest-grossing movie in history when this hits theaters at Christmas, canon or non-canon.
Throwing the novels out is disgusting, as it has shaped the opinion and story of the Star Wars universe for decades. Basically, a reboot, and I can't stand that shite.
Hmm, sounds like what happened to my favorite SF show...
Spongebob?
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 17, 2015, 04:33:34 PM
It's about the money. Not fan loyalty. Money.
They're still going to have the highest-grossing movie in history when this hits theaters at Christmas, canon or non-canon.
Throwing the novels out is disgusting, as it has shaped the opinion and story of the Star Wars universe for decades. Basically, a reboot, and I can't stand that shite.
I get the nerd rage about the books not being considered canon. I worked at a bookstore at the time Zahn's novels first came out and they were instant classics. Having said that, I didn't read any of them, so, the movie is going to do for me what it won't do for you.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on April 17, 2015, 05:18:40 PM
Spongebob?
Yes, Spongebob. When they made his pet snail Gary bark like a dog in the reboot instead of meow like a cat I was devastated. And we all know Spongebob is yellow and not brown! Damn that Jar Jar Abrams! :knuppel2:
Quote from: MetalDog on April 17, 2015, 05:38:27 PM
I worked at a bookstore at the time Zahn's novels first came out and they were instant classics.
You're getting me wrong. There's hundreds of books that have established canon over the years - storylines, intertwined plots, descendants of the original characters, long and well-thought character development...most of which I have not read. I've read the Zahn books and some of the Rogue Squadron books, but otherwise, nothin'. I'm going to see the movie, alright. It just worries me a bit that they're ignoring that canon. That could mean another movie with lots of explosions and action and very little substance. Or it could be the most beautiful thing on the big screen, ever. I'm hoping for the latter.
I worked at Waldenbooks when Zahn's first book came out, so I'm right there. You should read them, even if they're not being considered part of Mortimer Mouse's canon. O0
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Quote from: MetalDog on April 17, 2015, 05:38:27 PM
I worked at a bookstore at the time Zahn's novels first came out and they were instant classics.
...It just worries me a bit that they're ignoring that canon. That could mean another movie with lots of explosions and action and very little substance...
It's Jar Jar Abrams. This is exactly what you're going to get.
What is the first Zahn book? When was it released?
I think I found it:
http://www.amazon.com/Heir-Empire-Star-Wars-Trilogy/dp/0553296124/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1429313359&sr=1-1&keywords=Star+Wars+Zahn
^Yes that's the first one in the trilogy.
Just ran across this on youtube. I suppose it would be even funnier if I had seen Interstellar. Also, sorry if someone posted it already:
http://youtu.be/PYHdQUyOunA
I never got further than the first of the Zahn trilogy but it was a good read. I've always thought there should be a follow-up of the Star Wars story. I want to know what happened to all the characters after the drunken Ewok party.
Quote from: bbmike on April 17, 2015, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 17, 2015, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on April 17, 2015, 05:38:27 PM
I worked at a bookstore at the time Zahn's novels first came out and they were instant classics.
...It just worries me a bit that they're ignoring that canon. That could mean another movie with lots of explosions and action and very little substance...
It's Jar Jar Abrams. This is exactly what you're going to get.
Let's not retroactively pretend that the original movies were some intergalactic version of War & Peace. They're pretty much simple action flicks at heart, too. Carrying on with that would just make sense.
Quote from: Arctic Blast on April 17, 2015, 11:30:42 PM
Quote from: bbmike on April 17, 2015, 06:01:55 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 17, 2015, 05:59:47 PM
Quote from: MetalDog on April 17, 2015, 05:38:27 PM
I worked at a bookstore at the time Zahn's novels first came out and they were instant classics.
...It just worries me a bit that they're ignoring that canon. That could mean another movie with lots of explosions and action and very little substance...
It's Jar Jar Abrams. This is exactly what you're going to get.
Let's not retroactively pretend that the original movies were some intergalactic version of War & Peace. They're pretty much simple action flicks at heart, too. Carrying on with that would just make sense.
Agreed. That's why I said earlier that Jar Jar Abrams is better suited to Star Wars.
The first 2 Star Wars movies were pretty good - but that is about it. The rest were awful.
Star Wars was released in 1977 - I was 15 years old. Every one of those actors is at least in their very late 50s to 1960s. Carrie Fisher is 59 in October. Expecting Ms. Fisher to look physically like she is 21 when she is 59 is silly.
I never got how wonderful people thought the Star Wars movies were.
You can now flame on!
well that trailer is worth about $2 billion....
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/star-wars-trailer-adds-2-billion-to-disney-stock-value-10184088.html
Jesus, should have bought a few shares.
Quote from: airboy on April 18, 2015, 08:19:55 AM
The first 2 Star Wars movies were pretty good - but that is about it. The rest were awful.
Star Wars was released in 1977 - I was 15 years old. Every one of those actors is at least in their very late 50s to 1960s. Carrie Fisher is 59 in October. Expecting Ms. Fisher to look physically like she is 21 when she is 59 is silly.
I never got how wonderful people thought the Star Wars movies were.
You can now flame on!
I was a little younger than you when Star Wars hit. I was enthralled. I couldn't WAIT for Empire, and having seen that, couldn't wait for Jedi. Each release was bigger than the last and at my age, I truly thought they were the best ever.
Now, as a grown man, I am a little afraid of going back to watch them again. I already know that Jedi is a horrible mess that should have been nuked from orbit for including Ewoks. And New Hope and Empire can't be nearly the thrill ride I found them as a youth if for no other reason than I am more cynical.
I was 8 when the first one hit theaters. I didn't like Empire at the time but it grew on me greatly. I don't understand the hate for Return of the Jedi...sure it had annoying teddy bears but it wasn't that bad a flick.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 18, 2015, 09:53:50 AM
I was 8 when the first one hit theaters. I didn't like Empire at the time but it grew on me greatly. I don't understand the hate for Return of the Jedi...sure it had annoying teddy bears but it wasn't that bad a flick.
The Empire Strikes Back had a hippie dippie Muppet. Jedi had a sea of Muppets. Then we got Jar Jar. Sort of speaks for itself.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 18, 2015, 09:53:50 AM
I was 8 when the first one hit theaters. I didn't like Empire at the time but it grew on me greatly. I don't understand the hate for Return of the Jedi...sure it had annoying teddy bears but it wasn't that bad a flick.
I was all of 2 years old when my mother took me to see the first Star Wars.
Actually she was taking herself. Being a pregnant sci-fi fan, taking a 2-year old to the movie theater only stopped her for about two weeks because she was afraid I would be a little asshole and piss other people off. But I was reportedly locked in and staring at the screen the whole time - not a peep. :)
It's in my blood. That's my excuse.
^We're really close in age. I was three when Star Wars was released to theaters. My Grandma took me to see it (she loved sci-fi) but apparently I spent the whole two hours staring at the woman behind me instead of watching the movie :)
Geez I feel old. I was already paying alimony when Star Wars came out. And Child Support too. We had one little rincky-dink theatre in town and I had to wait so long to see it that Vader had time to father 3 more kids. :o I didn't even see a zipper in that suit he wore. Those were great times back in '70's.
Quote from: Gusington on April 19, 2015, 03:18:24 PM
^We're really close in age. I was three when Star Wars was released to theaters. My Grandma took me to see it (she loved sci-fi) but apparently I spent the whole two hours staring at the woman behind me instead of watching the movie :)
Sooooo. You were one of
those kids.
I've regularly had young children stare at me in public places (restaraunts, etc) almost the whole time I was there. Hopefully because I'm tall and rather loud, and not because I seem like a nutjob. :D
I remember my mom and I went to take my grandma to see the original Star Wars, but the line was around the frigging block, so mom was all "noooope" that night. She and my dad loved it and I think we saw it four or five times in theaters.
You knew it was coming...
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QuoteSelling a slightly used Imperial II–class Star Destroyer.
Previously (slightly) owned by a navigator of a spice freighter, this vessel has been sitting on my moisture farm and needs to be removed before next year's harvest. I just haven't had time to give this classic the attention it deserves and my loss is someone else's gain!
1600 meters in length this bad boy has a maximum atmospheric speed of 975 km/h and an acceleration of >2,300 g. It's got a Class 2 hyperdrive system still in working order with a backup Class 8. SFS I-a2b solar ionization reactor is in good to excellent shape. KDY Destroyer-I ion engine turns over on the first try but may need a new serpentine belt.
As you can see by the picture provided, the deflector shield generator domes are intact. That is a state of the art ISD-72x.
Fully equipped with LeGrange targeting computers, heavy ion cannons, Phylon Q7 tractor beam projectors, leather bucket seats, and a 15-disc CD changer.
36,000 tons of cargo capacity, this beauty was ran with a crew of 37,085 but you can pull it off with a minimum of 5000 leaving you plenty of room to pack in a few extra AT-AT walkers, TIE starfighters, prefabricated garrison bases, Lambda-class shuttles, yards of soil, spool after spool of pipe, and jet skis.
This superstructure is perfect for long road trips with the family, discovering new galaxies, picking up girls for dates, and general destruction of your enemies. Have you ever seen what a Star Destroyer can do to the surface of an unshielded planet? Stones run like water and sand turns to glass. With just a little TLC, this baby can be good as new.
Brand new, this beauty of the skies runs at about 145,670,000 credits, but due to some carbon scoring I can be flexible on the price. Realistically, I just need it removed from my property, so all offers or trades will be considered. Make me an offer, no mind tricks.
First come, first serve basis. You are responsible for towing.
Quotethis bad boy has a maximum atmospheric speed of 975 km/h
Impossible! It should be capped at 950!
15 disc changer, though.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 21, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
Quotethis bad boy has a maximum atmospheric speed of 975 km/h
Impossible! It should be capped at 950!
lol - theyll be back if you keep prodding
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Quote from: Banzai_Cat on April 21, 2015, 01:08:53 PM
Quotethis bad boy has a maximum atmospheric speed of 975 km/h
Impossible! It should be capped at 950!
lol - theyll be back if you keep prodding
Still, 975km/h is only about 525 knots, therefore their argument is already invalid before it's made. :))
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Mark looks like he could play the Emperor.
Who are those old people? Star Wars characters are supposed to never age. Something about the Mydrocondrens I think.
LOL!
Midichlorians ?
Yeah. That.
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 22, 2015, 11:44:25 AM
Midichlorians ?
I believe that is German for "f&ck you and your treasured childhood memories."
Oy vey
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Had never heard much about Marcia Lucas. This makes it seem like they made better films while working as a team. Explains why the later films are all good stories with little heart.
She was a big part of George's early success for sure.
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Had never heard much about Marcia Lucas. This makes it seem like they made better films while working as a team. Explains why the later films are all good stories with little heart.
I did not know this! I hope that she got a significant pay day when she left George.
I think she got a decent settlement from the divorce (somewhere around $200 million), but George shafted her on her movie work. She didn't get points or any real payoff for her contributions.
There's a reason why most people have never heard of her.
I could be blissfully ignored for $200 million!
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Had never heard much about Marcia Lucas. This makes it seem like they made better films while working as a team. Explains why the later films are all good stories with little heart.
Fascinating story; thanks for sharing
bes.
I confess I knew virtually nothing about Marcia beyond her existence. A pity her contributions aren't more widely known.
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George Lucas had other ideas for the new Star Wars movies:
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/george-lucas-vanity-fair-star-wars-118450918192.html?soc_src=mail&soc_trk=ma
Wasn't Kathleen Kennedy married to Spielberg? And in Temple of Doom? Or am I thinking of somebody else?
You're thinking of Kate Capshaw
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001009/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm
RIP Jar Jar
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/jar-jar-binks-in-memoriam-video-since-1999-s-the-118217410202.html
please, please, please, please be true
http://screenrant.com/star-wars-movie-joss-whedon/
Maybe there'll be a Firefly flying next to the Millenium Falcon?
my boner would break through my pants, pierce the seat back in front of me, sever the spinal column of its occupant if that happened and then break through like an alien chest burster.
There's not much grosser than popping a boner and running out of skin.
MAJOR Note to Self: NEVER sit in front of Star. 8)
that was pretty much already a given
Quote from: bayonetbrant on May 11, 2015, 07:48:27 AM
that was pretty much already a given
Yeah, apart from above you like some deadly ninja pervert, sat in front is the last place to be
The saga of Biggs Darklighter
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George Lucas had a short movie made for the UK release of Empire Strikes Back.
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The best year ever?
In case you were wondering, Revenge of the Sith still sucks
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/revenge-of-the-sith-ten-years-later-is-it-119389020752.html
Quote"I shouldn't have done that. It's not the Jedi way," Anakin says afterwards, with as much emotion as if he'd ordered he wrong sandwich.
Pretty much. Hayden sucks and has zero ability to make an audience have any empathy for him. Natalie Portman was exactly the same. They were both truly awful as the centerpieces of these films.
To be fair, I think any of the prequel movies could have been a thousand times better, if they had actors worthy of the craft. Their choice to go with established actors, I knew would be a bad, bad choice, back even before the first prequel came out. (That said, I think Ewan McGregor did a great job, and was probably the only 'actor' among a sea of gobshite in all three films.)
That's not to say that would make them
good movies. It would just make them light-years
better than the Bantha pudu they are. Maybe upgraded to unwashed Jawa.
It's "Bantha poodoo".
Quote from: mirth on May 21, 2015, 09:41:16 AM
It's "Bantha poodoo".
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Dude, you were the one who used it in a sentence and spelled it wrong.
At least you got Jawa right. O0
I'm not nearly nerd enough for this thread.
Though I did Google it to confirm that you are correct. :-[
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
Though I did Google it to confirm that you are correct. :-[
You Googled the correct spelling of Jawa?
<smh>
No, nerfherder. "Bantha poodoo."
BTW, don't Google that.
That's scruffy-looking nerfherder to you.
totally worth re-posting at this point
I know I can't think straight when my loins burn with passion.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 08:25:11 AM
To be fair, I think any of the prequel movies could have been a thousand times better, if they had actors worthy of the craft.
I disagree. I think the biggest problem with the prequels is that everyone knew how they were going to end. There wasn't much guess work. Heck, go back and compare the six movies. The story telling in all six was about the same. The only thing that set the original one up was its great effects, uniqueness, and the space battles.
This thread may be nerdier than the Star Trek thread.
Quote from: OJsDad on May 21, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 08:25:11 AM
To be fair, I think any of the prequel movies could have been a thousand times better, if they had actors worthy of the craft.
I disagree. I think the biggest problem with the prequels is that everyone knew how they were going to end. There wasn't much guess work. Heck, go back and compare the six movies. The story telling in all six was about the same. The only thing that set the original one up was its great effects, uniqueness, and the space battles.
That was kinda the point I made. If the actors had been better, they would have conveyed a much more interesting story, even though the people know how it's going to end.
Trying to put tension into a prequel that everyone has seen and knows is a pointless endeavour. What's not pointless is (a) having engaging dialogue, which none of the prequels had (though as I said, MacGregor did do a commendable job at times, especially in III, at least IMO); and (b) having engaging actors that give you some emotional buy-in. Even if they only had (b), that would have made it much more enjoyable. For me, anyway.
And,
Star Destroyer > USS Enterprise
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Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on May 21, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 08:25:11 AM
To be fair, I think any of the prequel movies could have been a thousand times better, if they had actors worthy of the craft.
I disagree. I think the biggest problem with the prequels is that everyone knew how they were going to end. There wasn't much guess work. Heck, go back and compare the six movies. The story telling in all six was about the same. The only thing that set the original one up was its great effects, uniqueness, and the space battles.
That was kinda the point I made. If the actors had been better, they would have conveyed a much more interesting story, even though the people know how it's going to end.
Trying to put tension into a prequel that everyone has seen and knows is a pointless endeavour. What's not pointless is (a) having engaging dialogue, which none of the prequels had (though as I said, MacGregor did do a commendable job at times, especially in III, at least IMO); and (b) having engaging actors that give you some emotional buy-in. Even if they only had (b), that would have made it much more enjoyable. For me, anyway.
I don't think that any cast could have made that awful plot, and that horrific dialogue, work. They were doomed from the beginning. Hayden Christensen is one of the worst 'actors' that I've ever seen, but nobody could have made those scenes work.
I haven't read anything that has come before. But I'm honestly surprised I haven't participated in this thread. Especially considering that my avatar is an artist friend of ours deception of my wife and I.
I'm sure it's because I've had The Force Awakens trailer on repeat for the better part of the last month, watching it Clockwork Orange Alex DeLarge style.
Quote from: mirth on May 21, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
Though I did Google it to confirm that you are correct. :-[
You Googled the correct spelling of Jawa?
<smh>
;D. What about R2D2!?
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on May 21, 2015, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 21, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
Though I did Google it to confirm that you are correct. :-[
You Googled the correct spelling of Jawa?
<smh>
;D. What about R2D2!?
I think you mean Artoo Detoo
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^And there's See-Threepio ;D
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 21, 2015, 10:11:35 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 07:10:06 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on May 21, 2015, 02:01:46 PM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 08:25:11 AM
To be fair, I think any of the prequel movies could have been a thousand times better, if they had actors worthy of the craft.
I disagree. I think the biggest problem with the prequels is that everyone knew how they were going to end. There wasn't much guess work. Heck, go back and compare the six movies. The story telling in all six was about the same. The only thing that set the original one up was its great effects, uniqueness, and the space battles.
That was kinda the point I made. If the actors had been better, they would have conveyed a much more interesting story, even though the people know how it's going to end.
Trying to put tension into a prequel that everyone has seen and knows is a pointless endeavour. What's not pointless is (a) having engaging dialogue, which none of the prequels had (though as I said, MacGregor did do a commendable job at times, especially in III, at least IMO); and (b) having engaging actors that give you some emotional buy-in. Even if they only had (b), that would have made it much more enjoyable. For me, anyway.
I don't think that any cast could have made that awful plot, and that horrific dialogue, work. They were doomed from the beginning. Hayden Christensen is one of the worst 'actors' that I've ever seen, but nobody could have made those scenes work.
That's what I was also trying to say AB.
Quote from: mirth on May 22, 2015, 06:37:39 AM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on May 21, 2015, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 21, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
Though I did Google it to confirm that you are correct. :-[
You Googled the correct spelling of Jawa?
<smh>
;D. What about R2D2!?
I think you mean Artoo Detoo
You sure? It could be Are too deiye too. Some secret password.
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on May 22, 2015, 03:52:29 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 22, 2015, 06:37:39 AM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on May 21, 2015, 11:38:13 PM
Quote from: mirth on May 21, 2015, 11:51:19 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on May 21, 2015, 11:49:38 AM
Though I did Google it to confirm that you are correct. :-[
You Googled the correct spelling of Jawa?
<smh>
;D. What about R2D2!?
I think you mean Artoo Detoo
You sure? It could be Are too deiye too. Some secret password.
That's the Ewok translation.
Luke's a badass now
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http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2015/06/first-look-at-mark-hamills-luke-skywalker-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens.html (http://www.flickeringmyth.com/2015/06/first-look-at-mark-hamills-luke-skywalker-in-star-wars-the-force-awakens.html)
He'll always be a whiny bitch to me.
And you'll always be Jar Jargyle Binks to me.
and thats why when we first meet I'm going to give you a hug and punch you in the mouth. O:-)
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^Pure awesomeness!
Going back a bit, that Secret History of Star Wars book is amazing in itself: kind of a modern folk anthropology study tracing how Lucas (and others like his ex-wife) developed the story of the six movies over time, and how Lucas especially developed the 'story of the story' over time, with many reference to primary sources. Anyone interested in writing epic fiction and/or film production and/or the story of Star Wars (and the story of the story, so to speak ;) ), should look into it.
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His hairstyle has changed but hers hasn't. ;D
That's because their faces and the lightsword blade were 'shopped into the original pic.
Damn, he looks like Charlie Manson.
He's probably going for that look.
Quote from: mirth on June 19, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Luke's a badass now
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He looks like a homeless dude.
Hence his allure to the fan base.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 06, 2015, 07:03:43 PM
Quote from: mirth on June 19, 2015, 12:56:39 PM
Luke's a badass now
He looks like a homeless dude.
Quote from: mirth on July 06, 2015, 07:37:06 PM
Hence his allure to the fan base.
The fan base, however, is not homeless, ever since mom and pop had the basement remodeled...
*ducks quickly*
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on July 06, 2015, 07:03:43 PM\
He looks like a homeless dude.
.. or the beard guy with the t-shirt that said, "I'm A Motherfucker", punching somebody on the bus.
Let this be a lesson kids, unless you want to be living in a Sandcrawler down by the Dune Sea
Quote from: mirth on July 06, 2015, 10:33:42 PM
Let this be a lesson kids, unless you want to be living in a Sandcrawler down by the Dune Sea
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A Sandcrawler would be a mansion compared to a van. And the Dune Sea implies desert views that will only drive the housing market up, so it's doubtful a palatial (if somewhat odorous) estate such as that would do anything but incur astronomical property taxes from the local gub'mint.
Jawas are notorious for not paying taxes. They live in fear of the IRS (Imperial Revenue Service).
What the hell is that thing at the 3 minute mark? I really hope that thing doesn't make it into the movie as some Ewokian toy tie-in.
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New design Walkers behind the TIE fighters.
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They're really going for that Nuremburg rally circa 1939 look, aren't they?
They weren't before? :))
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Quote from: Gusington on August 11, 2015, 07:14:10 PM
They're really going for that Nuremburg rally circa 1939 look, aren't they?
Well, they ARE the "First Order". Smacks of the Third Reich.
I think that's the directions the Force Awakens is going. The Empire has broken apart, and whatever that is rising to take its place has threads of Nazi Germany replacing Imperial Germany woven in.
Even the First Order's Leader, "Supreme Leader" Snoke. They're absolutely drawing parallels to the chaos following WW1 and the resulting situation that led to WW2.
The red banners in the new image lift it up and above the look from the older movies, I think, in terms of the fascist look.
And I dunno - I always thought of the British Empire before Nazi Germany when looking at the the 'old Empire.' Maybe it was the accents and huge navy :)
Quote from: Gusington on August 11, 2015, 07:38:35 PM
The red banners in the new image lift it up and above the look from the older movies, I think, in terms of the fascist look.
And I dunno - I always thought of the British Empire before Nazi Germany when looking at the the 'old Empire.' Maybe it was the accents and huge navy :)
I would agree about shades of the British Empire.
But I think Abrams and Kasdan are going in a different direction. The Empire, the one we saw in the Original Trilogy, was in some ways tragic. It was a legitimate government that was usurped, without its knowledge by the Sith. Likely there were many a loyal Imperial that never knew or understood the ideological concepts behind the "religion" of their ruler and his heir apparent.
Now we get the "First Order". What is the First Order? Perhaps it refers to the Sith. This is a leaner, cleaner Empire that is made up of the hardcores that survived the death of the Empire. They follow a "Supreme Leader" who has as his second a clearly Sith inspired enforcer. These are soldiers and men that are fully understanding of what they're following. Perhaps the First Order is the Sith, a more pure use of the force, without the silly, monastic controls of the corrupt Jedi. It's a Third Reich, a faction that is willing to sell its soul to achieve the glory it once had.
Of course that's just my theory. I'm probably wrong and overthinking it.
Quote from: Staggerwing on August 11, 2015, 07:16:39 PM
They weren't before? :))
yeah, right?!
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
That terrible Starship Troopers also promoted fascist displays and values.
Theater copies itself endlessly.
The Starship Troopers novel goes into a lot more detail (of course) about the society itself.
At first I hated the movie, but then learned to accept it for what it is - essentially a dumbed-down comic-book tongue-in-cheek version of the novel itself. Which for me is borderline blasphemy, as ST is one of my favorite novels.
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on August 12, 2015, 06:51:39 AMAt first I hated the movie, but then learned to accept it for what it is - essentially a dumbed-down comic-book tongue-in-cheek version of the novel itself. Which for me is borderline blasphemy, as ST is one of my favorite novels.
you do know that the movie was pretty much completely written, and partially filmed, when they realized that the ST rights were available, and they bought the rights and slapped them on an already-existing movie, right? They just changed some of the character names and tweaked a few scenes to get Buenos Aries in there, and then called it an ST movie. Several of the team on that movie (writers, producers, etc) even openly admitted to having never read the book, or heard of it before they got the rights to the title.
Yeah, I know all that. I didn't know all that when it was at the theaters, though, and neither did the friends I went to see it with. They were all, "WTH" as much as I was.
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/new-star-wars-the-force-awakens-revelations-126507891242.html
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 12, 2015, 07:03:13 AM
Quote from: Banzai_Cat on August 12, 2015, 06:51:39 AMAt first I hated the movie, but then learned to accept it for what it is - essentially a dumbed-down comic-book tongue-in-cheek version of the novel itself. Which for me is borderline blasphemy, as ST is one of my favorite novels.
you do know that the movie was pretty much completely written, and partially filmed, when they realized that the ST rights were available, and they bought the rights and slapped them on an already-existing movie, right? They just changed some of the character names and tweaked a few scenes to get Buenos Aries in there, and then called it an ST movie. Several of the team on that movie (writers, producers, etc) even openly admitted to having never read the book, or heard of it before they got the rights to the title.
It was also directed by Paul Verhoeven, who was familiar with the source material and hated it. Verhoeven grew up in occupied Europe near a V1-V2 site, and endured constant bombings. He despised the Nazis and considered the novel an endorsement of Fascisim. It was Verhoeven that wove in the German like uniforms and over the top, satirical tone. He also was responsible for the undertones that the humans were actually the aggressors.
A quote from Verhoeven from a conversation he had while casting Michael Ironside ""If I tell the world that a right-wing, fascist way of doing things doesn't work, no one will listen to me. So I'm going to make a perfect fascist world: everyone is beautiful, everything is shiny, everything has big guns and fancy ships, but it's only good for killing f'ing bugs!"
Verhoeven set out to make exactly the movie that was produced. A bombastic satire of space war movies that is as intentionally insulting to the source material as it can be. He's been pretty candid and open about this. He did the same thing with Robocop, satirizing 80's Reagan America and Capitalism.
If you view it on those terms, it becomes a more interesting film. I've actually got a buddy that's a film Professor at FSU that teaches an entire class on Verhoeven.
I like Verhoeven's satirical style and I liked his take on Starship Troopers. It's a very funny movie (so was Robocop). I didn't go into it expecting a faithful recreation of the novel.
Quote from: mirth on August 12, 2015, 01:51:59 PM
I like Verhoeven's satirical style and I liked his take on Starship Troopers. It's a very funny movie (so was Robocop). I didn't go into it expecting a faithful recreation of the novel.
That was the mistake I (and my friends at the time) made going into that flick. Like I said, I learned to appreciate it for what it was later.
It would be nice to see a movie more faithful to the book, though. I mean, personal nuclear wrist-launchers...
I have to admit, I wasn't a huge fan of the book. Not that I disliked it, but I enjoyed some of Heinlein's other works more.
Quote from: mirth on August 12, 2015, 03:27:36 PMbut I enjoyed some of Heinlein's other works more.
well, there's plenty to choose from... O0
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 12, 2015, 04:15:00 PM
Quote from: mirth on August 12, 2015, 03:27:36 PMbut I enjoyed some of Heinlein's other works more.
well, there's plenty to choose from... O0
Yeah. I should re-read many of them. It's been 20-30 years.
Heinlein discussion moved to it's own thread so we can get back onto Star Wars here
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 12, 2015, 06:47:55 PM
Heinlein discussion moved to it's own thread so we can get back onto Star Wars here
Dictator :P
You'll do well in the First Order.
That's "Mr Dictator" to you.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 12, 2015, 07:08:09 PM
That's "Mr Dictator" to you.
We like abbreviations in the First Order.
You'll be "Mr. Dic".
Yes, but if I'm the Head Dictator, then the proper abbreviation is "Mr 'Tator-Head"
Come now. You know it would be Dic Head.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 12, 2015, 07:43:26 PM
Yes, but if I'm the Head Dictator, then the proper abbreviation is "Mr 'Tator-Head"
I can work with that.
Was Brant saying something about getting this thread back on topic?
Quote from: MetalDog on August 12, 2015, 07:46:53 PM
Come now. You know it would be Dic Head.
That works too.
Quote from: MetalDog on August 12, 2015, 07:46:53 PM
Come now. You know it would be Dic Head.
you're making puns again
You people are imagining things.
http://www.hitfix.com/galleries/8-fascinating-new-star-wars-the-force-awakens-photos-hint-about-state-of-the-galaxy#5
So, there was a new trailer posted to instagram yesterday. About 10 seconds long. The highlight showed Finn at night, in the snow, getting ready to fight with a light saber in his hands. Presume that he is getting ready to fight with Kylo Ren.
Thanks for posting the above...Kylo Ren looks totally bad ass, as does Phasma...even if Phasma is a chick.
That just makes Phasma more gooder.
I think you're right it's just that having a female Star Wars badass throws off my dork bellweather.
Maybe she's wearing a chrome bikini under that armor.
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2015, 10:32:55 AM
I think you're right it's just that having a female Star Wars badass throws off my dork bellweather.
Why, all guys know that females are the root of all evil. :P
I fully support the above two posts.
They own half the money and all the cooch. I mean, it's no wonder you guys get into Red Rocker diddlin' discussions around here sometimes.
Oh dear. I haven't really been keeping up too much with the news but are you telling me that the chrome stormtrooper is a girl and so is Kylo Ren?
Just the chrome stormtrooper afaik.
I see. I have to go and try to wrap my head around this. Call me old fashioned, but I thought the elite of the stormtroopers were always men.
By default, when they were still clonetroopers they would have to have been.
Unless one of them mutated into a woman, Jurassic Park style, to propagate the species.
Aren't you a little boobie for a Stormtrooper?
Fan-made trailer for Boba Fett movie
Quote from: W8taminute on August 29, 2015, 01:44:48 PM
Oh dear. I haven't really been keeping up too much with the news but are you telling me that the chrome stormtrooper is a girl and so is Kylo Ren?
They call her "Chromer". Why? Because it is said that she can suck the chrome off a bumper.
Quote from: Centurion40 on September 02, 2015, 11:36:55 AM
Quote from: W8taminute on August 29, 2015, 01:44:48 PM
Oh dear. I haven't really been keeping up too much with the news but are you telling me that the chrome stormtrooper is a girl and so is Kylo Ren?
They call her "Chromer". Why? Because it is said that she can suck the chrome off a bumper.
In less than 12 parsecs.
Quote from: W8taminute on August 29, 2015, 01:44:48 PM
Oh dear. I haven't really been keeping up too much with the news but are you telling me that the chrome stormtrooper is a girl and so is Kylo Ren?
According to IMDB, Kylo Ren is being played by Adam Driver, and Captain "Chromer" Phasma is being played by Gwendoline Christie, better know as Brienne of Tarth.
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^O snap.
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http://news.yahoo.com/hayden-christensen-rumoured-for-star-wars-8-114220042.html
^ Aaaaand congratulations, movie makers...you've succeeded in turning Episode VIII into crap, if this happens.
I expect shitty dialogue, a shoddy story, great special effects and a good music score.
thats it.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2015, 09:52:49 AM
I expect shitty dialogue, a shoddy story, great special effects and a good music score.
thats it.
The JJ Treatment
nah, just typical star wars format.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2015, 09:52:49 AM
I expect shitty dialogue, a shoddy story, great special effects and a good music score.
thats it.
and a $500mil opening weekend
Quote from: bayonetbrant on September 22, 2015, 11:14:32 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2015, 09:52:49 AM
I expect shitty dialogue, a shoddy story, great special effects and a good music score.
thats it.
and a $500mil opening weekend
I think it'll break that.
Classic!