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Title: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Staggerwing on April 18, 2017, 11:44:29 AM
Got an email from Strategy First. Finally left the Eastern Front!

Link to some screenies:

http://trk.cp20.com/click/frpn9-amqiew-97cnaa4/


(https://wonacott.egnyte.com/openpublicdocument.do?thumbNail=true&w=1200&h=1200&type=proportional&forceDownload=false&link_id=i5HEukOSa0&entryId=c08a09c3-d602-4745-b7d3-1302f02230b1&cb=1492537420843)


That's All I got right now. Feel free to add more info.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Skoop on April 18, 2017, 12:26:00 PM
So is this like GT tactics or blaze of war where you actually get to crew the tanks.  Personally I'd be more excited about the latter but I agree it's great they are going to North Africa.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: sandman2575 on April 18, 2017, 02:50:46 PM
Finally left the Eastern Front!

Cool!

(Nothing against the Ostfront - just very interesting they're moving focus to North Africa!)
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 18, 2017, 03:34:46 PM
I couldn't get any info on whether this will be an extension of Mius Front or a completely separate game.  Anyone see anything anywhere on that?
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 18, 2017, 04:22:17 PM
Nice!  I hope the terrain is a little more friendly to infantry than it was in Shield of the Prophet but looking forward to it regardless.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: salazarus on April 18, 2017, 04:41:10 PM
I couldn't get any info on whether this will be an extension of Mius Front or a completely separate game.  Anyone see anything anywhere on that?

Separate game. Tank warfare "will be dedicated to the Allies and the "conventional" Western front". Graviteam Tactics "will continue to develop of the eastern front (and not only EF)". IMO they should release this under Graviteam Tactics IP.
Source:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/312980/discussions/0/133262848300696829/

 
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: jomni on April 18, 2017, 05:31:41 PM
DLC modules would be better if it is the same engine.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Destraex on April 18, 2017, 05:54:51 PM
multi?
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: SirAndrewD on April 18, 2017, 09:15:25 PM
I really wish they'd do a new WW2 armor sim like their previous Steel Fury/Armor games. 

 
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Raied on April 19, 2017, 05:54:23 AM
So excited, according to this article:
http://www.dualshockers.com/2017/04/18/tank-warfare-tunisia-1943-announced-pc-gets-new-screenshots/
Graviteam CEO Vladimir Zayarniy had this to say regarding the upcoming strategy game:
“Set in North Africa during the Tunisian campaign in World War II, one of World War II’s most intense conflicts and offers real-time and turn-based strategy options,"

So this mean turn based option is confirmed, so that means the possibility of adding PBEM :D
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: jomni on April 19, 2017, 06:53:10 AM
Aha!  Then it warrants a standalone title.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: rocketman on April 19, 2017, 09:56:44 AM
Turn based  :bd: - then I'll finally try a game in this series. Just read a book about the North Africa campaign and really want to play a good game dealing with it.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Skoop on April 19, 2017, 10:47:59 AM
I really wish they'd do a new WW2 armor sim like their previous Steel Fury/Armor games.

+1
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: fabius on April 19, 2017, 10:53:02 AM
Turn based ! Do they mean in the tactical part, like CM.
That with the Operational Layer hypes me.  <:-)
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Father Ted on April 19, 2017, 11:37:28 AM
Turn based  :bd: - then I'll finally try a game in this series. Just read a book about the North Africa campaign and really want to play a good game dealing with it.

I've also just read a book about Operation Torch and the subsequent campaign, so am likewise looking for a game.  I'd be very surprised if the gameplay differed from the existing Graviteam model.  I'd interpret that announcement as turn-based strategy and real-time tactical.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: fabius on April 19, 2017, 02:32:39 PM
Alas, I think you're probably right. Still, hope of turn based, and even two player can live until fuller details come.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: sandman2575 on April 19, 2017, 06:42:46 PM
Given how bloody beautiful Graviteam's vehicle models have become in Mius Front -- have to say I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with the M3 Lee/Grant.  Somehow the more hideous WW2 contraptions have always held a special fascination for me.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: -budd- on April 21, 2017, 09:24:46 PM
scroll down the thread for a bunch more screen shots.

http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/4352484/tank-warfare-tunisia-1943
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: acctingman on April 21, 2017, 09:37:18 PM
by turn based do they mean like CMx2 game play where you can pause, issue orders and let er rip?
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 21, 2017, 09:57:50 PM
More like a Total War game.  There's a strategic map overlay where you move units around the map, resupply, rest, add reinforcements, stuff like that.  You then end the turn and wherever your units and the enemy meet on the strat map, a battle occurs.  You click on the battle icon and are dropped into a 3D battle that plays out in real-time.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: acctingman on April 21, 2017, 10:04:51 PM
More like a Total War game.  There's a strategic map overlay where you move units around the map, resupply, rest, add reinforcements, stuff like that.  You then end the turn and wherever your units and the enemy meet on the strat map, a battle occurs.  You click on the battle icon and are dropped into a 3D battle that plays out in real-time.

wow....that sounds pretty slick. This type of game play new for their games? I've never played one of their titles.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: -budd- on April 21, 2017, 10:19:36 PM
More like a Total War game.  There's a strategic map overlay where you move units around the map, resupply, rest, add reinforcements, stuff like that.  You then end the turn and wherever your units and the enemy meet on the strat map, a battle occurs.  You click on the battle icon and are dropped into a 3D battle that plays out in real-time.

wow....that sounds pretty slick. This type of game play new for their games? I've never played one of their titles.
nope, standard for Graviteam games
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: acctingman on April 21, 2017, 10:41:47 PM
Interesting.

Is there a demo for one of their games? Is there a title more suited for beginners?

I'll poke around online.

Thanks
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 21, 2017, 11:32:31 PM
Interesting.

Is there a demo for one of their games? Is there a title more suited for beginners?

I'll poke around online.

Thanks

Sorry, bro...knowing your tastes, I'd say don't even bother with this series. It will only frustrate you.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Richie61 on April 24, 2017, 02:14:07 PM
I have all thier games and the UI drives me nuts. Course others really like it too.

Interesting.

Is there a demo for one of their games? Is there a title more suited for beginners?

I'll poke around online.

Thanks

Sorry, bro...knowing your tastes, I'd say don't even bother with this series. It will only frustrate you.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 24, 2017, 02:21:15 PM
The UI is unquestionably "different", but I don't think it is necessarily bad. Its like anything else, once you learn it, it works and is very functional. It just happens to not always be so intuitive.

Overall, I think these are fantastic games well worth the investment in time.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Rayfer on April 24, 2017, 04:01:32 PM
I didn't read all the posts so my bad if it was already covered, but is this newer game using the same basic engine as Mius Front or is something different?
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Richie61 on April 24, 2017, 05:58:48 PM
My problem is that I have never investmented the time.  :( Family and work slow down my gaming time.

The UI is unquestionably "different", but I don't think it is necessarily bad. Its like anything else, once you learn it, it works and is very functional. It just happens to not always be so intuitive.

Overall, I think these are fantastic games well worth the investment in time.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Ubercat on April 24, 2017, 06:36:32 PM
For those looking for Tunisia games to play after discovering a new found interest in the theater, MMP just released Baptism by Fire: The battle of Kasserine Pass (https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/207568/baptism-fire-battle-kasserine). This is the 2nd in the new BCS (battalion level) series by Dean Essig. I just started soloing the full campaign for Last Blitzkrieg (https://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/178896/last-blitzkrieg), the Bulge game that debuted the series. I own both and will be jumping on game 3, Stalingrad, as soon as it's available for preorder.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 24, 2017, 06:53:44 PM
Aren't those board games?
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Ubercat on April 24, 2017, 09:07:56 PM
Yes, and...?   ;)
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Geezer on April 25, 2017, 04:17:09 AM
The map for that Bulge game reminds me somewhat of SPI's Wacht am Rhein from back in the 70"s I think.  Sadly, the days of setting up those monster games on my pool table and playing them are long gone.

Edit - And FWIW I think Dean Essig is one of the best wargame designers of all time.  Wish I still had the time to play his games.  Sorry for continuing to move this thread off topic.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 25, 2017, 04:45:16 AM
Yes, and...?   ;)

A) This is a computer wargaming forum
B) We are talking about...fancy that...a computer wargame

Boradgamers are the vegans and crossfit of the gaming world.  Always want everyone to know they play boardgames and turn every conversation to crossfit boardgames
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Staggerwing on April 25, 2017, 04:49:48 AM
You do know that the guy who does most of the work running this site is a boardgamer, don't you? 
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 25, 2017, 04:55:40 AM
Not really a concern of mine in regards to this thread in a computer warging forum.  I play boardgames a lot too.  Still have an ASL set up in my basement.  But there are people who are obsessed with boardgaming that are on a crusade to convert computer games to boardgames.  They find every opportunity to come into discussions about computer wargames and try to get people to play boardgames.

If there should be no distinction between board and computer games, merge the forums.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 25, 2017, 05:21:13 AM
'Cause this is the first time someone made an off-topic comment in one of our threads...

Someone made a gaming suggestion and it happens to not be something that interests you, Ryan. Get over it. No reason to pile on the guy and no reason to restructure our forums either.

Move on.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 25, 2017, 05:22:51 AM
You do know that the guy who does most of the work running this site is a boardgamer, don't you?

Excuse me? I resemble that remark.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 25, 2017, 05:26:30 AM
I didn't pile on.  I asked a simple question.  Check the answer and then another comment.  If the answer had been "oh yeah, its a tactical boardgame about Tunisia like ASL", well then OK.  But the answer was basically, yeah, what of it.  I replied to answer what of it.  I didn't just go on some rant.  I responded to a couple responses.

His quote was Yes, and?  I assume he was expecting me to respond.  Is that piling on?
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 25, 2017, 05:35:04 AM
My comment wasn't a solicitation for a response or a debate. It was a invitation for you to shut your mouth, for once.

Thanks. Back on topic.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: mirth on April 25, 2017, 10:46:40 AM
I like turtles.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: FarAway Sooner on April 25, 2017, 11:00:03 AM
I like bagels more than turtles.  But only with cream cheese.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: JudgeDredd on April 25, 2017, 12:22:04 PM
For anyone confused with the interface (which I admit I am though I also admit I probably didn't give it much time to settle in), there's some handy stuff at Dogs of War (link courtesy of Asid)

http://dogsofwarvu.com/forum/index.php/board,143.0.html

You may find it interesting and/or helpful.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: mikeck on April 25, 2017, 12:50:31 PM
 I do love these graviteam  Games and I have been playing them for years. Still haven't figured out the interface completely. Mainly because the manual – such as it is – is about usless

Nevertheless, sit down and invest some time in it and you will be rewarded. I can't go back to CM
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 25, 2017, 01:16:43 PM
I like turtles.

Gamera is a good turtle.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: mirth on April 25, 2017, 01:31:42 PM
I like turtles.

Gamera is a good turtle.

At last, some consensus.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 25, 2017, 01:50:43 PM
Don't push your turtle bias on me.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 25, 2017, 02:17:12 PM
Don't push your turtle bias on me.

#turtlelivesmatter
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Raied on April 26, 2017, 12:48:43 AM
steam page is up: http://store.steampowered.com/app/549080
Release date is 1st May. also there are many details about the game including the manual in dogs of war forums.
Day one purchase for me :)
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: jomni on April 26, 2017, 01:24:42 AM
Well it looks like GT to me.  Why call it a different name?
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 26, 2017, 06:10:09 AM
I still like the topic, but the features listed seem to be straight out of the Mius Front page.  If that's the case, wouldn't this be better as a DLC?  I might have missed some key new feature though.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 26, 2017, 06:14:11 AM
I still like the topic, but the features listed seem to be straight out of the Mius Front page.  If that's the case, wouldn't this be better as a DLC?  I might have missed some key new feature though.

Possibly...then again, totally new maps and terrain, totally different OOB and new beligerants. I can see the logic for either approach.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 26, 2017, 06:31:15 AM
Its not the approach they took with GTOS.  All the maps, regardless of terrain, were under the one engine.  All the OOBs were mixed in.  I very much like that approach better.  The current approach seems to be more like BFC's CM2 approach of multiple game engines and modules for each engine.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: jomni on April 26, 2017, 06:48:22 AM
Its not the approach they took with GTOS.  All the maps, regardless of terrain, were under the one engine.  All the OOBs were mixed in.  I very much like that approach better.  The current approach seems to be more like BFC's CM2 approach of multiple game engines and modules for each engine.

That's right.  They even stuffed varied Cold War theatres in GT.  Anyway.  They can do whatever floats their boat...
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 26, 2017, 07:05:05 AM
Its not the approach they took with GTOS.  All the maps, regardless of terrain, were under the one engine.  All the OOBs were mixed in.  I very much like that approach better.  The current approach seems to be more like BFC's CM2 approach of multiple game engines and modules for each engine.

Yeah. True.

Being that this is being published by SF, I wonder if that has something to do with the decision.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 26, 2017, 07:20:51 AM
I suspected that as well.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: acctingman on April 26, 2017, 07:45:50 AM
Man, that's a gorgeous looking game. Too bad I have ADD  :crazy2:
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Hofstadter on April 27, 2017, 05:32:09 AM
Im gonna stream this bad boy as soon as it releases, will post the details in the forum when I get an idea of an exact time
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: jomni on April 27, 2017, 06:18:13 AM
Its not the approach they took with GTOS.  All the maps, regardless of terrain, were under the one engine.  All the OOBs were mixed in.  I very much like that approach better.  The current approach seems to be more like BFC's CM2 approach of multiple game engines and modules for each engine.

Yeah. True.

Being that this is being published by SF, I wonder if that has something to do with the decision.

Ah maybe you'r right.  Can't have Graviteam in the title I guess.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Rayfer on April 27, 2017, 06:19:18 AM
Im gonna stream this bad boy as soon as it releases, will post the details in the forum when I get an idea of an exact time

Please do Hof, I look forward to it.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Thomasew on April 30, 2017, 07:41:15 AM
Hi,

Just a word of caution to anyone wishing to purchase this game .. Windows 7 is NOT supported.  :(

.. either Windows 8.1  :o .. or Windows 10.

Strange decision on Graviteam's part, .. given that Windows 7 is still the pre-dominant OS .. at this time.

I don't have Windows 10 installed on anything powerful enough to run a Graviteam game, ..

.. so, I guess I wont be playing tomorrow, when it releases ..  :(

Disappointed, .. I am ..  :tickedoff:

Cheers
Tom
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Hofstadter on April 30, 2017, 08:19:16 AM
Oh stfu graviteam. If I hear it doesn't work on seven im gonna be pissed.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: sandman2575 on April 30, 2017, 08:24:17 AM
I don't think 'not supported' necessarily means 'will not work with' -- on the Steam forum Andrey confirms this.   I'd be amazed if the game simply doesn't run on win 7.  Guess we'll see.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Pete Dero on April 30, 2017, 09:46:25 AM
andrey12345 v2.0  [developer] 28 apr om 14:15

Windows 7 is no longer supported by Microsoft from 2015.                          ? ? ?
Now it's already 2017. The game is also not supported this OS.
This does not mean that it will not work there. Simply means that it is not supported (we do not check on this system) and nothing more.

Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 30, 2017, 11:15:00 AM
Graviteam sees the writing on the wall...

According to StarCounter (market sizing org uses web traffic as its main data source)

Win7 - 39% with a fairly rapid decline in the last two years as corporate IT moves to Win10 and consumer PCs come preloaed with Win10.
Win10 - 30% with a predictable steady increase
Win 8/8.1 - 10% with a rapid decrease feeding Win10 increase
Win XP - 4.5 will be less than 1% in two years
Vista - less than 1%

So Win10/8 has a slight edge over Win7 and in a couple years, the gap will be double digits

Add to that MS's sunsetting of Win7 support, not sure it is a bad thing for a dev to not bother paying for the tools and licenses for Win7.

I made the change to Win10 when it first came out and did benchmarking on Il2 against Win7.  Win10 gave me 1-2 FPS on avergae on the same machine.  Of course the Win10 install cleaned up a lot of crap on my machine, so it could have been that.  In fact, if you watched me use my main laptop, you wouldn't even know it was Win10.  I have it configured to look  and feel just like Win7.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 30, 2017, 01:11:31 PM
Graviteam sees the writing on the wall...

According to StarCounter (market sizing org uses web traffic as its main data source)

Win7 - 39% with a fairly rapid decline in the last two years as corporate IT moves to Win10 and consumer PCs come preloaed with Win10.
Win10 - 30% with a predictable steady increase
Win 8/8.1 - 10% with a rapid decrease feeding Win10 increase
Win XP - 4.5 will be less than 1% in two years
Vista - less than 1%

So Win10/8 has a slight edge over Win7 and in a couple years, the gap will be double digits

Add to that MS's sunsetting of Win7 support, not sure it is a bad thing for a dev to not bother paying for the tools and licenses for Win7.

I made the change to Win10 when it first came out and did benchmarking on Il2 against Win7.  Win10 gave me 1-2 FPS on avergae on the same machine.  Of course the Win10 install cleaned up a lot of crap on my machine, so it could have been that.  In fact, if you watched me use my main laptop, you wouldn't even know it was Win10.  I have it configured to look  and feel just like Win7.

How many people play Graviteam games? Of the relatively niche group of those that do, how many do you think run their wargames on machines with an older OS?  My hunch would be most of them. Wargamers also, I suspect, tend to not play on systems pre-loaded with OEM software. The point I'm making is that there is probably a lot of nuance when it comes to these kinds of games and the people that play them since they tend to not be the standard consumer.

Makes no difference to me...I have systems running everything from WinXP to Win10 and everything in between...because, hey, you never know. 
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 30, 2017, 01:31:22 PM
I understand, but I see wargamers playing on Vista still.  At some point, you have to cut it off.  I find completely reasonable to stop developing specifically for Win7.  I would also bet that Graviteam knows their market fairly well.  I suspect their main market is also not people who frequent this board.  Their Russian language board on their site used to be a lot more active than the English language side.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 30, 2017, 01:43:20 PM
I understand, but I see wargamers playing on Vista still.  At some point, you have to cut it off.  I find completely reasonable to stop developing specifically for Win7.  I would also bet that Graviteam knows their market fairly well.  I suspect their main market is also not people who frequent this board.  Their Russian language board on their site used to be a lot more active than the English language side.

Yeah...I agree. I don't blame them for not supporting an OS that is a few generations old at this point either.  Andrey seems to be a pretty interesting guy. I'm not sure he develops games his fans necessarily want to play. I think he makes the games he wants to play. lol. 

Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: -budd- on April 30, 2017, 02:12:53 PM
I'd be shocked if it didnt run on Win7, i'm betting it does. Win8 is a different animal, more touch screen related. A lot seems to be lost in translation when communicating with Andre, any question about the UI or how to do things or documentation it pretty much comes across like your an idiot. The documentation is better but still seems like stuff is missing or explained badly. Still looking forward to the desert warfare, i'll probably buy next weekend.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on April 30, 2017, 04:59:07 PM
I am curious if the dev and the documentation comes across better in the native language.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Hofstadter on May 01, 2017, 12:21:58 AM
If it works, the stream will commence at 10:30 AM AEST. Which corresponds to 5:30 california time. I'm going to be using youtube for the stream

Why california, its the only state I could think of. Hopefully this windows 7 thing wont screw me over. 

Unless theres a different time I should do it. I kinda suck with the zones
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Pete Dero on May 01, 2017, 03:55:47 AM
Hopefully this windows 7 thing wont screw me over. 

Bismarck (James Cobb) seems to have early access and posted this on the steam forums after playing some 4 hours : It runs fine on Win 7-64 bit.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197985455133

PS. release in about 9 hours
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Hofstadter on May 01, 2017, 04:28:14 AM
Oh yes I was so nervous. Good. XD
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Raied on May 01, 2017, 10:52:27 AM
The game has been released on steam with 15% discount.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: WallysWorld on May 01, 2017, 11:26:48 AM
James Allen playing the game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUVhDbeu0co (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUVhDbeu0co)
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: RyanE on May 01, 2017, 01:47:49 PM
I saw in the video the LOS tool.  Steel Beasts has one too.  I have never understood BFC's claim that a LOS tool would be too CPU-intensive for CM players.  How is it that other games, with what looks like just as high fidelity as CM, can have those tools.  That is a great feature of Graviteam.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: PanzersEast on May 01, 2017, 02:25:06 PM
The terrain makes for some interesting encounters and a treacherous one at that......


PE
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Hofstadter on May 01, 2017, 07:00:48 PM
Had to cancel my stream

My internet is how you say....a gestating pile of herpes. I tried to do it but there was just all the buffering
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 01, 2017, 08:14:11 PM
This series remains a total treat for the senses. The visual experience of combat is unlike anything else available on a computer. Graviteam is total king here putting everything else to utter shame. Truly captivating.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 02, 2017, 08:41:50 AM
I just had time to fiddle with the first couple of tutorials.


I kept hearing a loud pinging noise, almost like an old typewriter makes when the carriage return is pushed.  At first I thought it might be the sound of an M1 Garand's magazine running dry but I'd hear it very clearly even when zoomed away from any US troops.  Not sure what it's supposed to be.

I haven't had a chance to look through the options but I hope there's a way to turn off the chatter from the infantry.  It's pretty repetitive.


Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Barthheart on May 02, 2017, 09:06:40 AM
The terrain makes for some interesting encounters and a treacherous one at that......


PE

All the terrain I've seen so far looks bowling alley flat! Is there other types of terrain? I know it's the desert but there should be at least dunes to hide behind....
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 02, 2017, 09:20:36 AM
The terrain makes for some interesting encounters and a treacherous one at that......


PE

All the terrain I've seen so far looks bowling alley flat! Is there other types of terrain? I know it's the desert but there should be at least dunes to hide behind....

Dunes? The game covers the Battle of Sidi Bouzid in central Tunisia. Its more mountainous than traditional desert. If you put dunes, you might as well put jungles too. The game is an authentic recreation of an actual battle. The geography is limited by history.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Barthheart on May 02, 2017, 09:26:29 AM
The terrain makes for some interesting encounters and a treacherous one at that......


PE

All the terrain I've seen so far looks bowling alley flat! Is there other types of terrain? I know it's the desert but there should be at least dunes to hide behind....

Dunes? The game covers the Battle of Sidi Bouzid in central Tunisia. Its more mountainous than traditional desert. If you put dunes, you might as well put jungles too. The game is an authentic recreation of an actual battle. The geography is limited by history.

Ok, not dunes, but it all wasn't that flat.... hills, rocky outcroppings, etc...?
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 02, 2017, 09:33:51 AM
The terrain makes for some interesting encounters and a treacherous one at that......


PE

All the terrain I've seen so far looks bowling alley flat! Is there other types of terrain? I know it's the desert but there should be at least dunes to hide behind....

Dunes? The game covers the Battle of Sidi Bouzid in central Tunisia. Its more mountainous than traditional desert. If you put dunes, you might as well put jungles too. The game is an authentic recreation of an actual battle. The geography is limited by history.

Ok, not dunes, but it all wasn't that flat.... hills, rocky outcroppings, etc...?

Gullies, rocks, plants, settlements/villages, etc. I have seen it all. Its not all THAT flat. Its pretty diverse in a lot of ways.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Barthheart on May 02, 2017, 09:42:11 AM
Thanks.  O0
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: mikeck on May 02, 2017, 06:45:58 PM
I just watched a documentary on the campaign in North Africa and Tunisia and the terrain looks identical to me. Small rises breaking up a general flat terrain
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: trek on May 02, 2017, 07:13:52 PM
Anyone else here running the game in Win 7? I've got the game running and can play the Campaign and Quick Battles. However I cannot get the Battle Editor to work. Just watched James Allen's review and in his video of him setting up the  Battle Editor his shows on the left side of the screen icon list the next to the bottom icon is a clock symbol in black and white. On my map screen it shows an icon of a guy in a semi-recline position sitting on a half circle. The icon is red and white. When I click on it a text says unable to execute etc. I'm thinking this may be a problem because I'm running Win 7. Since the main reason I play Graviteam's games is because I like to do custom battles. If this function doesn't work for me I will get a refund before my two hour return window is up on Steam.

BTW the Battle Editor works perfectly for me on Mius Front in Win 7 but since this new one is not setup for my OS I'm thinking it's the problem.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: -budd- on May 02, 2017, 09:16:40 PM
I made a battle. German AI attack, defend with your Shermans.  File attached. If you play let me know how you fair. Dusk, clear weather.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: PanzersEast on May 03, 2017, 07:03:57 AM
The terrain makes for some interesting encounters and a treacherous one at that......


PE

All the terrain I've seen so far looks bowling alley flat! Is there other types of terrain? I know it's the desert but there should be at least dunes to hide behind....

Dunes? The game covers the Battle of Sidi Bouzid in central Tunisia. Its more mountainous than traditional desert. If you put dunes, you might as well put jungles too. The game is an authentic recreation of an actual battle. The geography is limited by history.

I was referencing more of us who have played the previous versions will find that the terrain can be a little more arduous when maneuvering.  Using your line of site becomes paramount because although it may look like flat terrain, can actually provide adequate cover and not everything is so pronounced.  So far on several engagements I have found that to be the case.  Scouting the territory to me is a much more of a detailed and up close task than before.

I have to disagree with James Allen on the review... although I do understand his point of view.  But a thumbs down on the review is not warranted.  The game provides great visuals, an entirely new country and equipment to play with, as well as some pretty well designed maps.  Overall I think the price is warranted and would have no problem recommending it to new players or those who have previous versions.  I think it is much more than just a DLC, but that is just my opinion... 2 Thumbs up for me

Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Barthheart on May 03, 2017, 07:27:39 AM
Thanks!  O0
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Sir Slash on May 03, 2017, 09:15:21 AM
Ditto. O0
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: -budd- on May 03, 2017, 12:51:22 PM
Anyone else here running the game in Win 7? I've got the game running and can play the Campaign and Quick Battles. However I cannot get the Battle Editor to work. Just watched James Allen's review and in his video of him setting up the  Battle Editor his shows on the left side of the screen icon list the next to the bottom icon is a clock symbol in black and white. On my map screen it shows an icon of a guy in a semi-recline position sitting on a half circle. The icon is red and white. When I click on it a text says unable to execute etc. I'm thinking this may be a problem because I'm running Win 7. Since the main reason I play Graviteam's games is because I like to do custom battles. If this function doesn't work for me I will get a refund before my two hour return window is up on Steam.

BTW the Battle Editor works perfectly for me on Mius Front in Win 7 but since this new one is not setup for my OS I'm thinking it's the problem.

Someone  mentioned on the steam forums to make a new profile.
http://steamcommunity.com/app/549080/discussions/0/1327844097106694816

Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: trek on May 04, 2017, 08:31:23 AM
Thanks Budd. Yeah the new profile is the fix for it. I forgot that I had the same problem when I got GT Mius Front. I'd even made a note about it but forgot to look it up in my documentation.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: jomni on May 26, 2017, 08:11:59 AM
The Birtish are coming
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1470464673012802.1073741858.590904460968832&type=3
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: sandman2575 on May 26, 2017, 08:46:55 AM
The Birtish are coming
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1470464673012802.1073741858.590904460968832&type=3

Churchills!!  Now if they would only add the M3 Lee...

Instabuy.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Thomasew on July 18, 2017, 11:13:23 AM
Hi,

The British have arrived in Tunisia ..  :)

New patch/update (with Brits for Battle Editor), .. plus new DLC with British Campaign.

http://steamcommunity.com/games/549080/announcements/detail/2809534800118427648


Cheers
Tom
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Destraex on July 18, 2017, 03:48:48 PM
Damn I wish this was multiplayer coop.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on July 18, 2017, 11:03:45 PM
Installation was somewhat problematic.  I kept getting error messages when I tried to start until I finally went in and manually ran the installer and pointed out the .g3ext file like the old pre-Steam Graviteam tactics system.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Hofstadter on July 18, 2017, 11:45:33 PM
Oh my god the DLC trailer music on the steam page....
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Raied on July 19, 2017, 03:09:11 AM
Oh my god the DLC trailer music on the steam page....

I love it  ::)
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: ComradeP on July 19, 2017, 04:30:50 AM
I had three issues, two major and one minor with the Graviteam Tactics games that made me put them away and I wonder if there have been improvements in those areas.

1) The operation game was somewhat silly, as it depended on you moving fast units into the enemy rear to capture flags in order to "win" a fight. Killing enemy soldiers was usually not enough to win or even get a draw, as the result would depend on an increase in controlled territory.

Whilst you could optimize your deployment to take objectives close to the setup area, the AI deployment often made little sense as even when most of the AI troops were properly placed, there were troops bunched up in woods somewhere for no clear reason. Essentially, the AI couldn't handle larger maps with limited units.

2) The infantry tactics shown in the game didn't feel accurate because they didn't take terrain into account. Squads would spread out, not covering eachother, or simply move in a line even though that would mean half the squad would expose themselves in a way the other half couldn't cover. Having to micromanage the infantry so they didn't end up dead because of poor pathing choices was a chore.

Those two things killed most of the immersion for me. The "feel" of the game was indeed more or less the best I've experienced in a tactical wargame, as mentioned by others, but it all broke down rather quickly when you started playing. You have to keep pushing which, as in most tactical wargames, means the pace of operations is quicker than was historically the case, resulting in high losses and the immersion-breaking "control the flags" requirement for victory described above.

The minor issue was that squads went through their ammo rather quickly, and many scenarios resupply options were limited. It felt a bit strange that a regiment wouldn't have sufficient rifle-calibre munitions for the limited operations you would stage in the game. As you're required to use the same units over and over because capturing territory is required to win, you should get the ammunition to operate in such a manner if there were no historical supply shortages.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: ComradeP on July 19, 2017, 06:56:57 AM
Sokolove, Kharkov Oblast, early March 1943.

After weeks of moving around by train and truck, followed by fierce battles around Krasnograd, the Panzergrenadiers of II/SS Panzergrenadier Regiment 1 are finally getting closer to Kharkov, their strategic objective for this campaign.

Today, they've assembled in some frozen fields just outside the village of Sokolove and have been tasked with removing the Soviet defenders.

Remarkably, they have been able to move into position without attracting any Soviet fire, although some of the men wonder why the colour of the ground changed to green as they were deploying. They were not able to move outside the coloured area, as if held back by an invisible force.

They can see flags floating in the sky, by now the men know they should be moving towards the areas with a Soviet flag. Yesterday, Erich Mayer was answering nature's call in the woods during a break in the advance when suddenly a Soviet flag nearby switched to a German flag! He was quite startled by the event, but at least he has a good story to tell when he gets home.

At the edge of the coloured area, Hans Hoffmann, in charge of the battalion radio and field telephone halftrack, knows what he must do even before he receives orders. Before the war, he was told he would need to get out of his vehicle to link command elements through a field telephone cable, but during the war he mostly has a different and even more important job. He is tasked with trying to get into the Soviet rear area as soon as possible and to drive close to the floating flags until they switch to a German flag. He has been doing that during the entire campaign so far and hasn't really encountered any resistance yet.

The rest of the battalion, carefully lined up and supported by MG fire from halftracks, Marders and StuGs, begins its advance.

The driver of StuG "Klabautermann" is called Markus the Mannequin by the rest of the crew, because he doesn't really have to do much driving and just sits still most of the time. The StuG twists and turns as if following certain points in the terrain, due to using the new technology Kraut Control. That's good, because he can't see a thing outside aside from a very white world with a bit of brown from the mud the tracks are churning up. The StuG carefully moves around difficult terrain that he couldn't possibly have spotted from the inside. He is allowed to drive on roads, but is told to let the StuG drive itself off-road.

The StuGs gunner, Dieter Müller, like everybody else involved in the attack, is happy that the enemy is not just physically present, but also indicated by coloured symbols. As soon as the symbol turns grey, he's out of the fight so they can stop firing at him, even though they can't actually see him to judge if he's really out of the fight. This is particularly helpful for buildings, where symbols tend to gather outside of visual range. When Dieter told his father, he wished they could've had these clever floating symbols in 1914. It would've made everything much less confusing.

The infantry is getting close to the outer buildings of the village. They can hear bullets flying around, and can see floating symbols popping up in the buildings, but those quickly change colour after a 75mm shell or MG burst hits the building.

As the leading squad prepares to pass the first house, the point man suddenly turns around, slaps the man behind him on the shoulder and says "you're it!" The men look at eachother for a moment, laugh and then proceed to have a merry game of tag with the rest of the squad, as the men run around the building in every direction for a few minutes. Whenever any kind of obstacle that prevents them moving in a line is encountered, they try to think of something original to do and move around as individuals for a while. After everybody gets to the other side of the house, they form up in a neat line again and move on.

The village is almost captured, but there's one house with a slight increase in elevation in front of it, and a tree as well. The men know this will be a very difficult position to take, as they find it very difficult to move in mutually supporting bounds or as fireteams when they encounter a slight rise or drop or an obstacle.

In that house, Ivan Gorkov sits in his favourite chair. He has lived in the village all his life and he's in a good mood. He went to the Marx Mart yesterday and could sign up for a box of apples in summer 1945! Such luxury with a war going on almost feels decadent. He can't actually see the Guards squad in his house, firing out of the windows, but if he tilts his head upwards he can see the symbols indicating their presence. He's used to men moving into his house becoming invisible. In fact, he's invisible himself, just like all the other villagers.

You'd think nobody lives in their houses if you'd just walk past them. He knows he can't die because he doesn't have a symbol. There are no civilian casualties in this war, even though the men that die on his doorstep sometimes look horrific. He also knows weapons won't really damage his home, it's as if the soldier are throwing pebbles at the walls. Once, an Il-2 crashed into his neighbour Vasily Bogovich's home and it didn't even wake the dog! He thought war would be horrible for him, but in the end it doesn't really interfere with his way of life. He ponders that thought as the SS change the colour of the last Soviet symbols in the village and the Soviet flag turns into a German flag. Would he still be able to get his apples? Marx was a German, so maybe the Germans won't close the Marx Mart. Who knows.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Hofstadter on July 19, 2017, 08:51:07 AM
It's not the best video. But I desperately to put something out there since I hadn't uploaded in a week

Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: JasonPratt on July 19, 2017, 09:09:38 AM
Sokolove, Kharkov Oblast, early March 1943.

Forgot the over-expense of ammo, but otherwise accurate.  >:D My favorite was the radio/phone halftrack racing around the backfield capping points.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: ComradeP on July 19, 2017, 10:35:13 AM
Ammo consumption is an issue during the campaign, but not during a single battle in most cases. After a few battles, your units will tend to start to run dry. For obvious reasons, high rate-of-fire weapons like MG's will show shortages first. The negative effect of having MG's on overwatch is that they tend to fire bursts at everybody and will run out fairly soon.

At first you can counter this by selecting a different platoon/company to lead the attack, but after a few battles they too will start to lose effectiveness due to ammunition shortages.

As in the real war, firefights tend to be fairly short, with lots of moving to and from contact in between.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Pete Dero on October 09, 2017, 12:26:42 PM
Part of deal of the weeklong deals on Steam 

http://store.steampowered.com/app/549080/Tank_Warfare_Tunisia_1943/

Game and DLC are 75% off.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Rayfer on October 09, 2017, 01:29:25 PM
Thanks for the heads up PD.  I've had this and Mius Front on my Steam wish list for awhile now.  How do  they compare? Better to hold out for a Mius Front sale or grab Tunisia now?  My game buying budget has its limitations.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Grim.Reaper on October 09, 2017, 02:17:32 PM
wow, that is a good deal..thinking about it myself even though I find it hard to grasp these games....
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Moreb on October 09, 2017, 05:09:33 PM
Thanks for the heads up PD.  I've had this and Mius Front on my Steam wish list for awhile now.  How do  they compare? Better to hold out for a Mius Front sale or grab Tunisia now?  My game buying budget has its limitations.

That all depends on which theater you like? Both games function the exact same. One is East Front Soviets vs. Germans and the other is desert warfare that is anything but flat and barren featuring Germans vs. Green Americans. The DLC to Tank Warfare features the British.

$10 is a STEAL for how much gaming time this game delivers.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: demjansk1942 on December 31, 2018, 05:50:20 PM
I bought the game, looks good
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Grim.Reaper on August 16, 2019, 05:06:43 PM
If you don't own the game, or want to complete your DLC....you can get the game and all DLC for only $4.99...pretty good deal.

https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/tank-warfare-bundle
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: 88mmkwk on August 24, 2019, 12:11:35 PM
Thanks for the alert - one helluva bargain!  Picked it up today and even got an additional summer sale 10% discount (fifty cents - YAY!), so total cost was $4.49...WOW!

This is my first Graviteam game beyond GTOS, so I've got some UI difference to learn....Fun stuff!
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: -budd- on August 24, 2019, 03:01:08 PM
Thanks for the alert - one helluva bargain!  Picked it up today and even got an additional summer sale 10% discount (fifty cents - YAY!), so total cost was $4.49...WOW!

This is my first Graviteam game beyond GTOS, so I've got some UI difference to learn....Fun stuff!
Here's a link to a learners guide for TWT   https://www.thefewgoodmen.com/thefgmforum/threads/tank-warfare-tunisia-1943-fgm-learners-guide.29897/

You have to sign up to download.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: smittyohio on August 24, 2019, 06:56:18 PM
My biggest issues when trying any of the Graviteam games, outside of just coming to grips with the interface, is that so many of the battles seem to be in twilight or night.   Is that just me being unlucky, or is it common? 
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Moreb on August 26, 2019, 07:57:36 PM
My biggest issues when trying any of the Graviteam games, outside of just coming to grips with the interface, is that so many of the battles seem to be in twilight or night.   Is that just me being unlucky, or is it common?

You can change that setting. Certain battles had more night engagements and the system models this.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Pete Dero on August 27, 2019, 01:46:05 AM
Most Graviteam games and DLC are on sale for the week.

https://store.steampowered.com/developer/graviteam/#browse
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: al_infierno on August 29, 2019, 01:58:23 PM
If only I didn't already own every Graviteam game and DLC... oh well... looks like now I need to find the time to play them...
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: MengJiao on February 02, 2021, 04:48:32 AM
If only I didn't already own every Graviteam game and DLC... oh well... looks like now I need to find the time to play them...

  Did some Tank Warfare:

Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Sir Slash on February 02, 2021, 08:10:53 AM
Pretty Meng.  :clap:
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: jamus34 on February 02, 2021, 08:20:02 AM
God I really need to spend the time to learn this system.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: CJReich46 on February 02, 2021, 11:20:58 AM
It's also on GOG.com - on sale too

https://www.gog.com/game/tank_warfare_tunisia_1943

and 4.99 too!
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: 88mmkwk on February 02, 2021, 11:01:55 PM
I am a Graviteam Mius Front and Tunisa fanatic....and I have never played it once!  But via the power of YouTube, I am able to watch and get my fill of the game vicariously through the videos posted by others. 

So why don't I instead spend my time actually PLAYING it?  I spent a long time thinking about this a while back and came to realize that what I enjoyed most was the cinematic experience of being able to build a "mind movie" (if that term makes sense) and playing the game requires concentration and bouncing around that detract from that experience.  This situation could be addressed if Graviteam added a scenario record feature - the one feature I envy about Battlefront's Combat Mission series.  This would allow me to play the game and then later go back and replay it to see what things happened that I was not aware of.  Maybe good players of the game maintain better overall situational awareness, but I find it frustrating to find that an enemy force did something to cause me to lose and I can't go back and replay the events to learn what I should have known/done.

That said, I greatly admire what Graviteam has put together with this product line and the graphics and realism are unmatched.....
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: MengJiao on February 09, 2021, 08:18:47 AM
  Shermans in Africa:


Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: JasonPratt on February 09, 2021, 08:25:03 AM
I am a Graviteam Mius Front and Tunisa fanatic....and I have never played it once!

Yep, own them all, and I'm not even disappointed that I've never played them once, I'm just glad to support their existence, which is arguably insane and/or a form of benign patronage!
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: solops on February 09, 2021, 10:07:18 AM
I am a Graviteam Mius Front and Tunisa fanatic....and I have never played it once!

Yep, own them all, and I'm not even disappointed that I've never played them once, I'm just glad to support their existence, which is arguably insane and/or a form of benign patronage!
+1
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Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Toonces on February 09, 2021, 11:27:23 AM
You're not alone, 88mm.  I've felt the same way about many games.

There are times when I'm playing Total War series when I just wish I could simply sit back and watch the fight.  I get done fighting this huge battle and don't even know what the heck happened sometimes.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: SlagDog on February 09, 2021, 01:30:05 PM
+1 as well

I feel that way about DCS. I envy the folks who have put in the the time and effort to learn how to fly in that game. I just enjoy watching how well they fly and fight. It's a lot of fun to see.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: ArizonaTank on February 09, 2021, 01:35:04 PM
Yep, own them all, and I'm not even disappointed that I've never played them once, I'm just glad to support their existence, which is arguably insane and/or a form of benign patronage!

Kind of like me and JTS games....
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: MengJiao on February 09, 2021, 05:54:25 PM
  Shermans in Africa:

   Vehicle burning in Gaviteam's version of Angola in 1980 (DLC for Mius-Front):

Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Hofstadter on February 10, 2021, 02:56:32 AM
+1 as well

I feel that way about DCS. I envy the folks who have put in the the time and effort to learn how to fly in that game. I just enjoy watching how well they fly and fight. It's a lot of fun to see.

If youre scared of this game dont even look at steel armor blaze of war...
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: hellfish6 on February 10, 2021, 06:02:39 AM
Funny. I have most of the games too, and I hardly ever play them. Steel Armor included, even though it's a brilliant tank sim. I'm not totally sure why that is - the graphics are great (battlefields in Graviteam games look like battlefields). Maybe it is that UI? It's the the kind of UI that when I figure it out, it makes total sense, but when I come back to the game I've forgotten where everything is. And the sometimes awkward translations don't help.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: z1812 on February 10, 2021, 08:44:15 AM
I have a couple of the games, but like many above, I don't play them.

I find the scale to be much too large. If it was turn based, and supported smaller engagements, I would play it.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 10, 2021, 09:05:19 AM
I agree that these games are hard to get into, but the little details that you observe across the battlefield make all the effort worth it. Tank crews bailing out on fire, signal flares coloring the sky, all the little brush fires triggered by tracer rounds, etc. I really just move my troops to contact and let the events unfold as they will. Truly immersive and nail-biting stuff. 
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: mikeck on February 10, 2021, 07:16:23 PM
+1 as well

I feel that way about DCS. I envy the folks who have put in the the time and effort to learn how to fly in that game. I just enjoy watching how well they fly and fight. It's a lot of fun to see.

Absolutely. I play nothing but DCS yet I still enjoy just watching Grim Reaper campaign missions and he’ll reigns videos of him just whacking people out of the sky
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 10, 2021, 07:22:27 PM
I like the Graviteam games a lot.  It took me a while to figure out how to play the Achtung Panzer series but once it clicked, it became second nature.  I think I'm in the minority but I actually prefer the Achtung Panzer control scheme over the newer one in Mius Front and Tunisia.  (I still struggle with air strikes and assigning reinforcements/replacements in the new series).
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: JasonPratt on February 13, 2021, 10:13:21 AM
That reminds me, I've been meaning to ask, will the two Achtung Panzer games be ported over to the new engine sometimes?

....asking for a wallet.  :-[
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 14, 2021, 09:37:04 AM
They've been porting over some of the DLC expansions from AP to Mius Front.  You can get the South African one (Operation Hooper) and the Chinese border incident one (Tielieketi for Mius Front, Zhalanashol 1969 for Actung Panzer).  I like the South African one a lot.  The Chinese border one is a little too small of an operation to be of much interest.  Doesn't help that the map is basically just a hill that's devoid of almost all tree cover.  Just a big shooting gallery.

I hope they hire a better translator.  They seem to be regressing when it comes to their "wevy stronk is best translating of an Russian into the Englishes, da?".  The latest DLC for Mius Front is called Grim of Death.


Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: hellfish6 on February 14, 2021, 05:44:22 PM
Yeah, the South African ones are most interesting to me. I'm perpetually exhausted of WWII, so anything from a lesser known theater is keen for me. When I last tried it, though, I was fighting the UI more than I was fighting the Cubans.
Title: Re: Graviteam's TANK WARFARE: Tunisa 1943 due out on STEAM in May 2017
Post by: Manassassas on February 15, 2021, 08:53:31 AM
The "complete edition" of this is currently available in the Steam sale for just over £10 (it would normally be £50+ for base game and all DLC) and I'm seriously tempted to take the plunge. I played Operation Star quite a bit but I've skipped Mius Front as the mountain of DLC puts me off.