Looks like galactic civilizations iv on the way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cP9sfHt4BU&t=79s
Because you can never have too many 4X games! :)
Edit - Gameplay details: https://www.galciv4.com/gameplay
Not really sure what to expect (Crusader Kings in space mixed with GalCiv?) but it's going to be fun.
There is something about the GalCiv series that always leaves me cold. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but they never grab me and they just seem dull, stale and hallow. I'm not expecting much here, but I'll follow development and certainly give it a chance.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 11, 2021, 08:11:57 AM
There is something about the GalCiv series that always leaves me cold. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but they never grab me and they just seem dull, stale and hallow. I'm not expecting much here, but I'll follow development and certainly give it a chance.
I only played the first one a lot. Didn't manage to really get into 2 or 3.
Quote from: Geezer on May 11, 2021, 05:25:00 AM
Because you can never have too many 4X games! :)
Edit - Gameplay details: https://www.galciv4.com/gameplay
Looks...interesting.
I have Gal Civ2, and I have played Gal Civ 3 when they did the freebie weekend, it wasn't bad. The newer one had some interesting mechanics.
but let's see what 4 is going to be like. Trailer looked interesting indeed.
Sounds like an Alpha build will be available as early as this summer.
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Is there going to be a Founder's Program?
No. Because we are making such big changes to the game design, we are going to make an "Alpha" version available as early access this Spring. Note: This won't be like a normal "early access" game where it's basically done. We expect to throw out features and add new features based on feedback and it will intentionally not be feature complete to give us room to incorporate player feedback.
https://www.galciv4.com/faq
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 11, 2021, 08:11:57 AM
There is something about the GalCiv series that always leaves me cold. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but they never grab me and they just seem dull, stale and hallow. I'm not expecting much here, but I'll follow development and certainly give it a chance.
+1
I spent more time with the first one than any of the others. The follow-ons seemed to be more of the same that just looked better. If it was a great game, then that would be fine, but they all just seem to have no soul. and they play more like land based games than games set in space.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 11, 2021, 08:11:57 AM
There is something about the GalCiv series that always leaves me cold. I'm not sure exactly what it is, but they never grab me and they just seem dull, stale and hallow. I'm not expecting much here, but I'll follow development and certainly give it a chance.
Same. I was hoping for a new Fallen Enchantress over this.
Stardock even admits that GC3 didn't turn out to be a high flyer.
Many of the crew on the first two games weren't even involved at first. And where GC2 was praised for its 'human-like AI' and its extensive stats to drool over, making theory crafting and strategic guide writing a fairly common thing for that title, GC3 was an attempt to make it 'main stream'. An error many studios have made.
GC3 is not a *bad* game, especially not in its latest incarnation, but its not great either. A fairly classic 4x, which took a turn for the better once Wardell retook control over the project.
It seems that for GC4 all the GalCiv vets of the studio have once again gathered to make it and in a dev diary Wardell specifically states that GC4 will be a game for their more hardcore/classic audience of GC2 fame rather than them expecting GC4 to be a mainstream game again. That's an interesting statement at least.
No founders program, which is a bit a of a bummer, but I understand why they can't do it anymore. There is talk about some kind of 'lifetime' deal however, for those who'd like to splash down a bigger chunk of cash upfront but are then going to get all content for free during the game's lifecycle.
It also reads a little like GC4 might very well be the final GalCiv for a good while.
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 18, 2021, 08:56:14 AM
Stardock even admits that GC3 didn't turn out to be a high flyer.
Many of the crew on the first two games weren't even involved at first. And where GC2 was praised for its 'human-like AI' and its extensive stats to drool over, making theory crafting and strategic guide writing a fairly common thing for that title, GC3 was an attempt to make it 'main stream'. An error many studios have made.
GC3 is not a *bad* game, especially not in its latest incarnation, but its not great either. A fairly classic 4x, which took a turn for the better once Wardell retook control over the project.
It seems that for GC4 all the GalCiv vets of the studio have once again gathered to make it and in a dev diary Wardell specifically states that GC4 will be a game for their more hardcore/classic audience of GC2 fame rather than them expecting GC4 to be a mainstream game again. That's an interesting statement at least.
No founders program, which is a bit a of a bummer, but I understand why they can't do it anymore. There is talk about some kind of 'lifetime' deal however, for those who'd like to splash down a bigger chunk of cash upfront but are then going to get all content for free during the game's lifecycle.
It also reads a little like GC4 might very well be the final GalCiv for a good while.
I like how they are going to use characters too, plus the sector system. They seem to be looking at what Stellaris did and taking it and giving a better spin.
Released for early access, appears to be an epic release....
https://www.epicgames.com/store/en-US/p/galactic-civilizations-iv
Against all of my better judgment, I'm tempted.
I am tempted as well but think i'll wait for now. I am still learning GalCiv3 right now :-"
eXplorminate (Rob) has already made 2 videos and it looks already very solid for an alpha release.
Anyone know if the $10 Epic coupon (expires June 17) will work on this one?
Quote from: steve58 on June 11, 2021, 10:36:19 AM
Anyone know if the $10 Epic coupon (expires June 17) will work on this one?
Yes, It works. I know from personal experience. :'(
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 11, 2021, 11:05:39 AM
Quote from: steve58 on June 11, 2021, 10:36:19 AM
Anyone know if the $10 Epic coupon (expires June 17) will work on this one?
Yes, It works. I know from personal experience. :'(
Seems you've been weak? Don't worry, it's your B'day. <:-)
Please, do share your experience.
Quote from: Anguille on June 11, 2021, 11:20:15 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 11, 2021, 11:05:39 AM
Quote from: steve58 on June 11, 2021, 10:36:19 AM
Anyone know if the $10 Epic coupon (expires June 17) will work on this one?
Yes, It works. I know from personal experience. :'(
Seems you've been weak? Don't worry, it's your B'day. <:-)
Please, do share your experience.
Thx JH....gives me a few days to ponder whether to jump in or wait...
Its an Alpha, so if you're just a casual GalCiv player there really is no choice; just wait.
The game will change much, especially until beta starts.
Stardock has stated on their forums that only people who like to be part of the development cycle need apply.
This just slipped from alpha into beta. I'm going to have to take a close look at it again. Could be a contender with DW2 for top space 4x.
Brad and crew are listening to tester input very actively. They seem to be on track to deliver a quality product. But so does DW2!
Turn based vs real time.
They both will have a place on my harddisk I presume. :)
I picked up GCIV last June on Epic and ended up returning it since it had that same ol, same ol vibe to it (for me). I will definitely take another look at it in the future to see if its changed much.
Pretty informative review on the state of the game...not all very positive.
Being an Epic exclusive, the game was totally off my radar.
Wow. I find this completely offensive. The game ended up being overall pretty dull (like all other Gal Civ titles in my opinion). Reviews were generally negative and Brad Wardell even acknowledged that it had major problems, and was being worked on to be fixed. Instead of releasing a patch...or even a paid DLC, they are just re-releasing the game, adding "Supernova" to the title and charging full price for it, except if you already bought it on Epic during early access, the purchase is discounted to $16.99. Talk about screwing over the people who supported this game over two years of early access.
I have no idea whether the updates actually fix the game or make it enjoyable and I am not willing to pay nearly $20 to find out.
Wardell is crazy. I will most likely never buy another Stardock title again.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 28, 2023, 10:37:49 AMWow. I find this completely offensive. The game ended up being overall pretty dull (like all other Gal Civ titles in my opinion). Reviews were generally negative and Brad Wardell even acknowledged that it had major problems, and was being worked on to be fixed. Instead of releasing a patch...or even a paid DLC, they are just re-releasing the game, adding "Supernova" to the title and charging full price for it, except if you already bought it on Epic during early access, the purchase is discounted to $16.99. Talk about screwing over the people who supported this game over two years of early access.
I have no idea whether the updates actually fix the game or make it enjoyable and I am not willing to pay nearly $20 to find out.
Wardell is crazy. I will most likely never buy another Stardock title again.
Ok so there is a Gal Civ 4 and a Gal Civ 4 Supernova both for sale on Epic and they are exactly the same thing? Wow.
Yeah no way this competes with DW2. I have tried to get into the Gal Civ games but yes boring the Gal Civ games just don't do it for me. And the AI seems to cheat terribly as it heads straight to everything and does not have to explore.
So the Steam release is now Supernova it seems. Here is a review:
I thought the original GalCiv did a lot to expand the frontiers of 4x TBS beyond the initial frontiers explored by MoO. The multiple types of victories, the different race-based play styles, and a few other more modest tweaks all did a lot to expand the genre beyond the basic framework laid out by MoO. These are staples of the genre today.
Brad Wardell was about the only designer out there in the open world, engaging customers on internet forums and clearly articulating his vision for a game. Combine that with the financial independence they enjoyed, and he promised to be a great future game designer.
There were a few other titles that tried and did some really interesting things (e.g., Pax Imperia) but none were very fun to play besides MoO2. GalCiv 2 introduced some additional, interesting dynamics (more explicit rock-pager-scissors dynamics for attack and defense systems, introducing a map on your planet) that have also become a core of most space 4x games. But the game play wasn't very different from the original.
I think that's been the core challenge of the subsequent games in the series. They add some bells and whistles, but they just aren't that different.
Brad was clearly a creative guy, but I think ultimately he lost people close to him who could give constructive feeback on his game ("Dude, the writing style for Fallen Enchantress is good and you clearly have a vision, but the content is rambling and lacks focus or clear themes."). Most of his subsequent titles had interesting ideas, but they just weren't very impressive game play experiences.
Quote from: Tanaka on April 28, 2023, 07:53:34 PMI have tried to get into the Gal Civ games but yes boring the Gal Civ games just don't do it for me. And the AI seems to cheat terribly as it heads straight to everything and does not have to explore.
Yeah, this is it. I have GalCiv1, 2 and 3. I feel that way about all of them. And none of them have a "space" feel to them. They all seem like land games with big gaps between cities. I like some of Stardock's other games, but the Space Empires series just does not hit it for me.
Here's a recent funny scene where DasTactic used the game's AI to generate an alien species based on his input of "reptilian desert dwellers strong military." The game created a reasonable alien civilization description, but produced a selection of images for the species that all literally resembled pieces of crap.
(Oof!) That was bad. The first pic was the only one remotely representative of the description used to generate the race. I did not realize all the races were locked except humans.
FYI: "Customers who purchased Galactic Civilizations IV or Galactic Civilizations IV: Supernova through the Epic Games Store are eligible to receive a Steam key for Galactic Civilizations IV: Supernova.
If you purchased Galactic Civilizations IV on Epic Games, you can upgrade to a Steam key for Galactic Civilizations IV: Supernova for $15.99.
If you purchased Galactic Civilizations IV: Supernova on Epic Games, you're eligible to receive a Steam key for Galactic Civilizations IV: Supernova for free."
https://www.galciv4.com/keytransport (https://www.galciv4.com/keytransport)