Planes!

[Centurion40]

Whoa!  :o

[Staggerwing]

^SAAB Draken. Got to be.

[GDS_Starfury]

sweet ride aint it!

[Staggerwing]

The Draken is a lot like the F-16XL 'Cranked Arrow', except 20 years earlier. Benefits of a steep swept wing with those of a shallower one without complicated swing-wing mechanisms.

[GDS_Starfury]

they couldnt build cars for shit, I owned one, but they made some damn fine airplanes.

[Staggerwing]

Might as well be two different companies.

Oh, wait...

[Barthheart]

[GDS_Starfury]

slow day of atom smashing Bart?  :)

[Barthheart]

slow day of atom smashing Bart?  :)

Yeah.... someone lodged a proton in the electron gun......  >:(

[BanzaiCat]

slow day of atom smashing Bart?  :)

Yeah.... someone lodged a proton in the electron gun......  >:(

Are you...positive about that?

;D

[GDS_Starfury]

dont be discouraged, get up and atom.

[mirth]

[mirth]

[Barthheart]

^^Nice... but is real?

[mirth]

High bank refueling of B-52s, done as a training maneuver:

During Instructor training, pilots were shown the full envelope of the aircraft including what was not in the manual and what could be accomplished. In this particular maneuver, the aircraft would perform refueling and accomplish a whifferdill in formation

To perform a whifferdill (because Wikipedia's description is pitiful) basically, you pull up to vertical while in level flight and as airspeed bleeds off, you kick in a little rudder, and your nose drops to that side; it should be noted that . As you approach the top of the maneuver, your vertical velocity drops off and the nose drops to the side of you put in rudder with that side's wing pointing at the ground. From the point you go vertical, the wings are not producing lift and you are being held in the air by momentum. The rudder movement redirects that momentum into an arc that allows the airplane to fall ballistically until airspeed picks up and the control surfaces are fully effective. The airplane then pulls up from a nose-low dive going 180 degrees from the starting heading and with the same energy/airspeed as before (an energy neutral maneuver)

    Since, at the top, they are falling ballistically at the same rate (weight and lift are not a factor), it's relatively easy to stay in formation and continue refueling without spoilers. I think the flaw in your logic is assuming they are doing this in a level turn (which they aren't).

    Again, this was a demonstration maneuver to show student instructor pilots on the KC-135 and B-52 the full limitations of their respective airframes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_talk:USAF_B-52_refueling_with_a_KC-135.jpg