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Offline Dammit Carl!

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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2021, 09:50:34 AM »
After seeing way too many stories of people doing stupid stuff, could it be a person who didn't want to ship out so they try to do a "little," sabotage which turns out to be much worse?

-I've seen some real dumb ass enlisted types while in the military, so I'd be not surprised if such a thing happened.

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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2021, 09:51:34 AM »
So far if the report is true the US navy has suffered more losses by disgruntled workers than enemy action in the last 10 years.  This seems like the USS Miami story again

https://www.wearethemighty.com/popular/submarine-fire-uss-miami/

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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2021, 09:52:47 AM »
Just reading that it was only one person involved makes me stop for a second. The fire was so devastating that it basically rendered the ship a total loss. One person is capable of doing such damage?

Because it was a yard period, they had only an extremely small crew onboard.  Probably smaller than what they were supposed to have.  Only 160,   Additionally, I believe they had some issues with their firewatches and roving patrols,although I would have to check on that.  Basically, the fire rapidly became too large for such a small crew to contain.  Typically, a ship inport will have, as an absolute minimum, 1/6th of the crew onboard at all times, even in "cold iron" on Christmas Day.    25-33% onboard is typical.  FWIW, fires on ships are not unusual.  They just usually don't get out of control, as USN ships are well equipped, and the crew well trained to handle them.  In the case of the Bonhomme Richard, I think there were significant leadership/management/training/TTP lapses.
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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2021, 10:03:13 AM »
After seeing way too many stories of people doing stupid stuff, could it be a person who didn't want to ship out so they try to do a "little," sabotage which turns out to be much worse?

-I've seen some real dumb ass enlisted types while in the military, so I'd be not surprised if such a thing happened.

Don't get me wrong.  I am not saying the fire wasn't deliberately set by a sailor.  I could absolutely see that as happening.  However, I could see the USN and/or NCIS railroading some enlisted sailor.  After all, they have done it before.  My only point is to look at the evidence before throwing a sailor (or for that matter, the USN) under the bus.
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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2021, 12:25:16 PM »
I don't have the same military experience as many on here (State Guard only) but even I would have got my ass handed to me if I had f'd up on the firewatches I have been on. I never met anyone who did not take firewatch seriously, even in this modern digital age of smoke detectors, fire alarms, etc.
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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2021, 12:26:38 PM »
I thought I read that some of the firecontrol gear/sensors were offline due to the work that was ongoing.  May have been a different vessel though.

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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2021, 12:30:43 PM »
^That...would explain a lot. I wouldn't think that would even be possible in 2021, though.
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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2021, 03:43:20 PM »
^That...would explain a lot. I wouldn't think that would even be possible in 2021, though.

Well the US navy apparently isn't what it used to be according to this report

https://www.westernjournal.com/shocking-report-us-navy-unprepared-war-sailors-forced-undergo-diversity-training-instead-combat-training/

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Re: Explosion Reported in USS Bonhomme Richard
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2021, 03:54:23 PM »
^That...would explain a lot. I wouldn't think that would even be possible in 2021, though.

Well the US navy apparently isn't what it used to be according to this report

https://www.westernjournal.com/shocking-report-us-navy-unprepared-war-sailors-forced-undergo-diversity-training-instead-combat-training/

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