USN in the Persian Gulf

[Jack Nastyface]

see graphic of March 14 courtesty of Stratfor

http://www.stratfor.com/image/us-naval-update-map-march-14-2012

[Martok]

Well this could get interesting. 

[LongBlade]

I voted for a massive tailgate party.

[Smuckatelli]

I voted for a massive tailgate party.

They don't do tailgate partys....

Da squids call it a 'Steel Beach' party.

Honestly, I don't see too much of a difference between deployments now and during the 90's.

[LongBlade]

I voted for a massive tailgate party.

They don't do tailgate partys....

Da squids call it a 'Steel Beach' party.

Honestly, I don't see too much of a difference between deployments now and during the 90's.

These deployments seem to put some teeth behind Obama's message to the Iranians that our patience is wearing thin with regard to diplomacy.

Obama has proven he will use a small level of force to achieve results. The question is whether he'll pull the trigger on a large scale use of force.

I think he'll be reluctant to do so because it will trigger $5/gallon gas at a minimum.

But the real reason he won't do it is because I don't think he wants to make the case for yet another war. Surgical strikes he likes. But I don't see him standing before the Congress telling them we need to go to war with Iran. I just don't.

I hope I'm wrong, because only the credible threat of war will give diplomacy the slightest chance of success. But I don't believe the Iranians will give up their designs for a moment - making war the only option.

Much more likely is an Israeli strike on Iran.

Now the question becomes are those carriers there to intimidate Iran? Or perhaps to complicate an Israeli strike?

[Centurion40]

I guess that time will tell.

[bayonetbrant]

http://grognews.blogspot.com/2012/03/inaccurate-debate-about-iran.html

[Jack Nastyface]

Honestly, I don't see too much of a difference between deployments now and during the 90's.

During the 90's wouldn't US carriers have been on station over Iraq to enforce the no-fly zone over Saddam's Iraq.  Since he's and the no-fly zone restrictions are no longer there, why the carriers?

The Stratfor naval deployment maps showed a VERY different picture during the Arab spring.  Most of the CV's on station were hanging out much closer to Egypt, or were in the Mediterranean proper.   Point being...the USN appears to send its carriers closer to where there may be some flare-ups.

Most humble regards,

Jack Nastyface

[LongBlade]

Honestly, I don't see too much of a difference between deployments now and during the 90's.

During the 90's wouldn't US carriers have been on station over Iraq to enforce the no-fly zone over Saddam's Iraq.  Since he's and the no-fly zone restrictions are no longer there, why the carriers?

The Stratfor naval deployment maps showed a VERY different picture during the Arab spring.  Most of the CV's on station were hanging out much closer to Egypt, or were in the Mediterranean proper.   Point being...the USN appears to send its carriers closer to where there may be some flare-ups.

Most humble regards,

Jack Nastyface

I could be mistaken, but in my latest chapter of ESP For Dummies I tried a new technique and I think I know what Smuck is thinking.

Wasn't there a bit of a dust-up in the 90's with the Iranians where they shut down the Straight for about 12 hours?

[Smuckatelli]

Wasn't there a bit of a dust-up in the 90's with the Iranians where they shut down the Straight for about 12 hours?

@ Jack, you are correct...and for the 90's we no longer had the traditional West Pac...we would finish certifications in Hawaii & Okinawa...visit Singapore, Panang, and a few other places and then hang out in the Gulf for the rest of the deployment.

@ LB, without using my goole-fu...I remember our workups for Oman in 88. We started to convoy ships out of the gulf in the 87-88 time frame. They did attempt to close the Straits...we took down some Iranian  go-plats and they resorted to mines but after it was all done and over with...the Straits stayed open for business.

[Windigo]

Its about Syria....


oh waitaminute that wouldn't be about oil - only ethical and moral reasons.

[LongBlade]

Its about Syria....


oh waitaminute that wouldn't be about oil - only ethical and moral reasons.

If ya gotta pick yer battles which ones are ya gonna choose: ones where you benefit or ones where ya don't?

[LongBlade]

Oh, wait. Canada can't project any force because they spend all their cash on health care.

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

I have to rebut with the best line in the article linked by Brant.


"And while we're on the subject of Iranian "rationality," it is perhaps worth noting that its leaders weren't goofy enough to invade Iraq on a pretext and then spend trillions of dollars fighting an unnecessary war there."
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[/size]lol, I didnt read the rest of the article, it would only go down hill from that.
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[/size]So yeah, our taxes suck but there is a good chance we will actually get some benefit from paying in. Your benefit is you get to say how cool some hardware other people get to play with is. Wow, I really do understand why our neighbours are always bitching about paying for government! ;D
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[Windigo]

Oh, wait. Canada can't project any force because they spend all their cash on health care.

heh....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDdlHmzIdn8&feature=related