Russia's War Against Ukraine

[Gusington]

An oversized Scotty pumped up full of helium.

[bobarossa]

An oversized Scotty pumped up full of helium.

more likely methane.

[Sir Slash]

As opposed to Scotch by the real Mr. Scott? 

[FarAway Sooner]

No comments about the 12 or 14 Challenger tanks the British have provided?  It's curious to me that everybody is giving penny packets of equipment to the Ukrainians at this point (OK, maybe the British just promised a mechanized battalion's worth of total equipment, of which 12 Challengers are only a part?).  Hypothetical example:  Surely the Ukrainians would be better off getting 150 Bradleys, versus: 50 Bradleys, 50 Marders, and 50 AMX-10 RCs?

Is that borne out of monetary stinginess, fear of depleting their own inventories too far, fear of provoking Russia further, a desire to see which the Ukrainians like the most, or a perceived inability for the Ukrainians to use any more of them right now?

[GDS_Starfury]

there arent that many Challenger 2s to give away in the first place.  I think the total production run was less then 250.  it was more of a break the ice move so that other countries would transfer tanks.
the number of Bradleys seems to be more about available training then available numbers.  so it could be 50 now, 50 next month, 50 after that.
with the way the swiss are being total cunts about the Leo2s it wouldnt surprise me if the Ukraine started getting M1s by summer time.

[Windigo]

maybe an old diesel electric sub?

[Boggit]

You might find this article on the Russia-Ukraine propaganda war, and the strategic nuclear rhetoric risks of interest...

http://freenations.net/the-extreme-dangers-of-ukraine-war-myths-and-propaganda/

http://freenations.net/ukraine-crisis-nuclear-weapons-and-mad-rhetoric/

[JasonPratt]

Word is that Wagner leader Andrei Medvedev has fled to NATO through Norway claiming that he will begin to release all sorts of information about the unit's legacy in Ukraine and the variety of crimes that they have committed on Ukraine and Russia itself.

Two links so far, will be out of pocket the rest of tonight and tomorrow, but others here will doubtless find more, and/or may be able to critique these as bunk:

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/10ecmk9/former_wagner_pmc_mercenary_andrey_medvedev_asks/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/10ejbfo/andrej_medvedev_wagner_comander_flees_from_russia/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

Credit to The Enforcer and his news digest for the day.

[GDS_Starfury]

the soviets propaganda square in the middle of Mariupol.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1615479580671844352

[Crossroads]

You know things are not going to plans when a business magazine is able to point out your failings.

There may be worse ways to lose a tank, but the destruction of another T-90M 'Breakthrough' gives Russian leadership a lot to worry about. Because it was the victim of tactical incompetence which put the tank in an impossible position, as well as an embarrassing failure of its much-hyped defensive systems.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidhambling/2023/01/17/why-losing-this-ultramodern-tank-is-such-an-embarrassment-for-russia/

Or, if that's too long a read, here's a summary of it:



https://twitter.com/CrimsonJGlory1/status/1614932379759513602

[Crossroads]

Oh, the new forum now shows twitter content, too. Neat.

[GDS_Starfury]

US arty ammo, stored in Israel, now being sent to the Ukraine.

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/17/us/politics/ukraine-israel-weapons.html

[GDS_Starfury]

it would also seem that a decision about Leos for the Ukraine might be reached by this Friday.

[Windigo]

it would also seem that a decision about Leos for the Ukraine might be reached by this Friday.

Jeebus... just tell Switzerland to fuck off and do it.

[Pete Dero]

it would also seem that a decision about Leos for the Ukraine might be reached by this Friday.

Jeebus... just tell Switzerland to fuck off and do it.

I think this is blocked by Germany, not Switzerland.