Russia's War Against Ukraine

[GDS_Starfury]

ummmm....

[Windigo]

wut?

[bobarossa]

Looks ki d of like a TOW launcher.  Otherwise no idea.

[GDS_Starfury]

oh ffs, THE 40s era truck in the backround.

[Gusington]

Where'd that pic come from?

[GDS_Starfury]

somewhere in Donetsk

[ArizonaTank]

oh ffs, THE 40s era truck in the backround.

US M3 Scout car. A bunch were sent to USSR as lend lease, and stayed in service past the war. So I am guessing that is how it got there.

[SirAndrewD]

Yeah, I don't get why this is so odd.  They have old lend lease junk to shoot at.


The Russians and Ukrainians didn't throw anything away.  It's obviously flagged as a target.  It's probably something dug up from a 70 year old stockpile.

[Sir Slash]

Right. Seventy in Russian Years comes to about 10.

[GDS_Starfury]

range target makes sense.  maybe even a local history event.  it was presented as something being used currently.

[Windigo]

oh ffs, THE 40s era truck in the backround.

I thought you were wondering where the third brake light was on that bad boy.   

[DetCord]

I think we did sit down, listen, and discuss. A lot of the criticism thrown out about the current situation, is that we not only wanted but expected the post-Soviet kleptocracy to stop being a kleptocracy (somewhat how we always not only wanted but expected the CCP to stop being communist and start being more truly democratic), if we just played ball with them more.

What happened was that playing nice-ball with them more, made it easier for them to be more successful tyrants at home, over their own people -- and to infiltrate and subvert the governments who were trying to play nice with them.

Nope, never happened. G.W. initiated a policy of NATO expansion continually seeking to isolate Russia while Putin sought closer ties to China. Obama, Trump, and Biden have continuously expanded upon this policy. The West never 'played ball' with Russia post-Soviet-collapse, ever. Not even remotely. When it came to discussions of including Russia within NATO and the EU sphere they were all tossed into the shitter. Putin was willing to make incredible concessions so as long as Russia was admitted to the EU and granted provisional NATO status. None of this ever took place, ever.

Now Russia is a capitalist wet-dream, circle-jerk, shot to the mouth dystopia. Your IP means nothing, your CP means nothing, your RTD means nothing, everything can be stolen. The initial reforms of the early days of the Putin admin are long gone. Right to assemble, right to protest, freedom of the press, and the early days of the 'Putin Bill' which closely resembled the American First Amendment, all gone.

Nixon predicted it:

     

   

[GDS_Starfury]

breech training?

https://twitter.com/i/status/1661622444845678593

[GDS_Starfury]

this doesnt seem like the right way to do this.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1659933879803736067

[FarAway Sooner]

Detcord, my friend, I don't disagree with your notion of what Western foreign policy has mostly been, but I think what you're proposing above is what my father used to call "an unfalsifiable hypothesis".  Russian politics has always been an unpredictable animal at best, which makes it even harder to predict what might have followed from any false hypothesis.

You may be right.

I may be crazy.

But it just may be a lunatic you're arguing with!     Peace to you and yours tonight, my man.