Russia's War Against Ukraine

[JasonPratt]

Maybe in its own way even more revolutionary than the first combat aircraft in WW1! -- due to actual and potential lethality + flexibility.

Once the sun EMPs the planet, though, we'll be back to cavalry, swords, pikes, and shot. Like the previously infamous Crimean War! 

[Sir Slash]

Not me. I could NEVER figure-out how far, 'Half-a-League' is.

[GDS_Starfury]

its 50% of a league.   

[FarAway Sooner]

its 50% of a league.   

Give or take...     

[SirAndrewD]

Maybe in its own way even more revolutionary than the first combat aircraft in WW1! -- due to actual and potential lethality + flexibility.

Once the sun EMPs the planet, though, we'll be back to cavalry, swords, pikes, and shot. Like the previously infamous Crimean War! 

I am well prepared for such an eventuality.

As to the war at hand, good news is that geolocated footage has now confirmed the UAF has advanced to the outskirts of Verbove, as I'd heard and suspected two days ago.

They have done an operational pause, which I speculate with some info is at this point them deciding if they should bring the heavy brigades up now, or continue trying pin the increasingly poorly supplied Russians in Robotyne with a hook around the southwest, which would widen the breach and potentially give them better fire control of the Verbove valley with control of the heights on the western reach. 

Either way, the attacks on logistics are telling as they're making sure that the increasingly strung out Russian forces in the valley and heights are stuck in their trenches with limited supply.  The Russians switch to static vs. active defense and the inflexibility of Russian forces to respond on the operational level are doing them no favors right now.  They're essentially just waiting to be overrun.

[FarAway Sooner]

If I remember an article posted here some months ago correctly, Russia has a very stand-offish "control" in the air, but still way ahead of what the Uks can currently do. Which is why they're desperate for better fighter platforms.

Yeah, I think it's really "mutual denial of air superiority" due to the lethality of anti-aircraft platforms in theater, with the Russians having a more decisive denial of air superiority than the Ukrainians (due in part to their fighters' ability to shoot down Ukrainian planes from a long ways off).  Both sides get shots in occasionally (the Russians get more), but they're typically using stand-off munitions with high cost and/or limited accuracy.

Worth remembering that our epic destruction of a Wagner-flushed BTG back during the Syrian Operation, was a very fully combined arms exercise, Apaches included.

I think somebody here posted a very detailed review of that combat a few months ago.  As I recall, the Wagner group's heavy units weren't obliterated by the airborne forces until AFTER the Russians (who had been denying that they had troops on the ground there) provided reassurance that Russian anti-air assets would not be used. 

Those airborne units were really the modern cavalry charging to the rescue of the heavily outgunned US forces, but they were only released after it was confirmed that nobody would shoot their horses.

I'm not dissing on choppers.  I think they've just proven themselves less useful when the enemy has an abundance of unsuppressed SAMs.

[Windigo]

I am well prepared for such an eventuality.

As to the war at hand, good news is that geolocated footage has now confirmed the UAF has advanced to the outskirts of Verbove, as I'd heard and suspected two days ago.

They have done an operational pause, which I speculate with some info is at this point them deciding if they should bring the heavy brigades up now, or continue trying pin the increasingly poorly supplied Russians in Robotyne with a hook around the southwest, which would widen the breach and potentially give them better fire control of the Verbove valley with control of the heights on the western reach. 

Either way, the attacks on logistics are telling as they're making sure that the increasingly strung out Russian forces in the valley and heights are stuck in their trenches with limited supply.  The Russians switch to static vs. active defense and the inflexibility of Russian forces to respond on the operational level are doing them no favors right now.  They're essentially just waiting to be overrun.

On one hand the answer is always going to be the one that favours artillery deployment and effectiveness. On the other hand, doing anything that starves the ruskkies logistics is good too.

I muse what Russia's move is if their land supply routes are totally severed. I anticipate they'll just let them starve.... but what would/could they do in response to this?

[Con]

I am well prepared for such an eventuality.

As to the war at hand, good news is that geolocated footage has now confirmed the UAF has advanced to the outskirts of Verbove, as I'd heard and suspected two days ago.

They have done an operational pause, which I speculate with some info is at this point them deciding if they should bring the heavy brigades up now, or continue trying pin the increasingly poorly supplied Russians in Robotyne with a hook around the southwest, which would widen the breach and potentially give them better fire control of the Verbove valley with control of the heights on the western reach. 

Either way, the attacks on logistics are telling as they're making sure that the increasingly strung out Russian forces in the valley and heights are stuck in their trenches with limited supply.  The Russians switch to static vs. active defense and the inflexibility of Russian forces to respond on the operational level are doing them no favors right now.  They're essentially just waiting to be overrun.

On one hand the answer is always going to be the one that favours artillery deployment and effectiveness. On the other hand, doing anything that starves the ruskkies logistics is good too.

I muse what Russia's move is if their land supply routes are totally severed. I anticipate they'll just let them starve.... but what would/could they do in response to this?

Fix Bayonets

[Uberhaus]

Mass surrender or escalate.

[Gusington]

^If it's Russia it will be both mass surrender and escalate.

[Uberhaus]

^If it's Russia it will be both mass surrender and escalate.

[SirAndrewD]

^If it's Russia it will be both mass surrender and escalate.

It'll be time to call these guys...

[Gusington]

^Damn son...it's been a while since anyone whipped out the October Guard. Well done 

[Uberhaus]

^If it's Russia it will be both mass surrender and escalate.

It'll be time to call these guys...

Didn't they just capture the weather dominator from Cobra?

[SirAndrewD]

Didn't they just capture the weather dominator from Cobra?

Probably.  We took out Cobra in the early 00's.