Russia's War Against Ukraine

[ArizonaTank]

Polish / Ukraine dispute over grain getting serious.  Poland says it will stop sending weapons to Ukraine over the dispute.

I hope that with all of those well-paid bureaucrats in the EU, somebody will figure out how to resolve this intra-European trade dispute. Anyway, the headline is bound to spice up Putin's day...

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/poland-to-stop-sending-weapons-to-ukraine-over-grain-fight/ar-AA1h2Srf?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=9ac561ac902347f0a9dc9eb3b646d7d1&ei=13

[Gusington]

^Ugh not good.

[GDS_Starfury]

not to worried as this is mostly about Polish elections.  Duda and Zelensky were in meetings about this yesterday and today the "Ukraine and Poland agreed to find a joint solution regarding the export of grain. This became known as a result of the conversation between the Minister of Agrarian Policy and Food of Ukraine, Mykola Solskyi, and his Polish colleague, Robert Telus."
trying to find the direct link to this comment.
theres also the idea that Poland doesn't have that much more to give in the way of military equipment.
as per the Economist:
"But on September 20th its prime minister, Mateusz Morawiecki, said that his country was no longer supplying weapons to its neighbour, and would focus on rearming itself with modern kit. It is unclear whether Mr Morawiecki's comments amounted to a change in policy: Poland has already sent Ukraine much of its stock of Soviet-era weaponry, including tanks and jets, and the transit of Western aid and arms to Ukraine, of which around 90% goes through Poland, will continue unobstructed."

[GDS_Starfury]

so the EU just being the EU:

https://www.ft.com/content/1e6a310a-195d-482a-924c-066ca874250d

[GDS_Starfury]

also from FT:


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   "We provided so much equipment at the beginning of the war, when we wanted to be the second-biggest helper after the US, that we're now in any case limited in terms of providing much more," said former Polish general Jarosław Stróżyk, who is assistant professor of international relations at the University of Wrocław. "We're in the middle of an election campaign and all these comments are unfortunate, also because Poland transfers so much military equipment to Ukraine from other nations . . . It shows we did not solve some strategic questions and tensions with Ukraine at the start of the war, about other historical, political and economic differences."

[GDS_Starfury]

this is about as close as you can get.
ffs the tweet exists.  its a T64 hitting a T90 from across a tree line.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1704579313092210939

[Gusington]

Yeah it is not that unbelievable that some countries are now running low on weapons. Probably should not be letting the world and the Russians know that, though.

[GDS_Starfury]

its the soviet era stuff Poland is running low on and Ukraine is moving to NATO standard anyway.

[bobarossa]

this is about as close as you can get.
ffs the tweet exists.  its a T64 hitting a T90 from across a tree line.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1704579313092210939

I can't see it but could be because I don't have a Twitter/X account.

[FarAway Sooner]

I'll stick take Poland over Russia in a hearbeat, but I do wonder whether Poland might be turning into a bit of a loose cannon within the NATO alliance.  Its domestic politics are... volatile and not always aligned with traditional Western values. 

And, if Russia is reduced to Chinese vassal status in the next 20 years, Poland seems the most likely actor to move into that power vacuum.  Their military build-up has already been dramatic.

I'm NOT saying we need to chuck Poland.  But, if we're thinking longer-term than just getting Russia defanged, we can't assume that the "enemy of my enemy" status that's kept Poland firmly aligned with the rest of NATO for the last quarter-century will automatically persist.

The biggest challenge with democratic allies is that their governments keep changing!   

[GDS_Starfury]

this row is more about their election next month then any real issues with Ukraine.
at least thats my take on it from the reading I've done.
Duda's speech yesterday was pretty good.

[GDS_Starfury]

now it works

https://twitter.com/i/status/1704631207651111422

[Windigo]

Thanks for following through on this one Star.

Amazing that the UAF tank got so close. I am wondering if it was because they had trouble spotting too, or they came up from behind?

Speaks to the value of having infantry support to be a bit like trip wire notification that something's amiss. (although with the Russkiy morale being so shitty I would not be surprised if they would just run away like Cerebus is chasing them).

[GDS_Starfury]

theres some debate if that was recent or from last summer and as to whether its a T90 export or a T72.

and now.... Maxims.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1704630189668311479

[GDS_Starfury]

some interesting stuff going down around Verbove and UkAF drone strikes in Crimea.
I hate the info lag.