Russia's War Against Ukraine

[Gusington]

'The Walrus and the Viper: Obvious Capitalist Stooges' by Vlad Putin 

[Sir Slash]

Come to think of it, weren't those the Nazi Party codenames for Goring and Himmler? 

[Crossroads]

so there was also an incident with a viper today.....   

"Now do this turtle next"

https://twitter.com/JParker_tw/status/1706713019269759122

[GDS_Starfury]

my pleasure!

[Crossroads]

 

https://twitter.com/gnucontrol/status/1706975631555055639

[GDS_Starfury]

wagner Il-76

https://twitter.com/i/status/1706969976085574082

[JasonPratt]

I realize it couldn't be true, but that photo looks like a Russian (i.e. Wagner) support truck drove through the wreckage then after it was clear flipped over on a large piece of debris and wrecked itself.

Then again, Russia is such a homicidal clown show now, I don't know what can't be true.

Come to think of it, weren't those the Nazi Party codenames for Goering and Himmler? 

Well played. 

[bobarossa]

I'm guessing there weren't a lot of survivors.  And it does look like a truck drove through the wreckage and was assimilated.

[ArizonaTank]

I realize it couldn't be true, but that photo looks like a Russian (i.e. Wagner) support truck drove through the wreckage then after it was clear flipped over on a large piece of debris and wrecked itself.

Then again, Russia is such a homicidal clown show now, I don't know what can't be true.

Good catch. That is what it looks like.

[Gusington]

I thought at first that the truck fell out of the airplane but looking closer see that there is barely anything left of the airplane or what was inside it...maybe that truck was fire and rescue? Do Russians even have fire and rescue?

Also maybe the airplane actually hit the truck on its way to destiny?

[Tripoli]

Looking at the video, it looks like the IL-76 never had enough runway, without using a lot of reverse thrust.  Possibly a malfunction of that system?

[JasonPratt]

The apparent tracks of the truck, which look freshly dug and do not go beyond the body of the truck, sure look like they went over/thru the ashes of the body, which would mean after the jet had finished burning. Also looks like the same tracks can be seen, a little more faintly, on the opposite side of the fusilage from where that truck ended up.

That would suggest the truck traveled normally into the ashes, then started digging its tracks more deeply on the other side until it flipped -- the tracks stop at that point, where the piece of debris on the tracks lies. (Or the truck tracks go a little farther.)

Now, however, I notice that part of the ash pile looks disturbed on the (photo-)right side of the wreckage, but not enough for the truck to have gone through the ash to clear ground.

That suggests the truck was driving through the ash, hit a piece of big debris, then dragged the debris along (clearing ash and making furrows with the tire tracks now) until the truck flipped over and left the debris behind.

That truck is clearly a story in itself. Maybe a story involving too much vodka or Mali's equivalents thereof.

[Gusington]

[JasonPratt]

Or NCIS, given the military theme.

[ArizonaTank]

There are a ton of folks talking about how it ends. 

But this one is interesting: RAND analyst predicts Korean War style ending; no negotiated peace but a long-term cease-fire.

Given that both sides aren't going back down...this is a likely scenario IMHO. But I think it is still many months away. 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/he-predicted-the-war-here-s-his-take-on-how-it-will-end/ar-AA1hmufy?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=e6d6152fdd264098a6d5a27b5faee1b8&ei=9