Russia's War Against Ukraine

[FarAway Sooner]

Wow.  I wonder what the numbers are of Russian citizens who have fled Russia and are now under a temporary protection order? 

Obviously, the circumstances of their leaving are different, but I have to think that it is disproportionately well-educated Russian men that are leaving.

[JudgeDredd]

It's just so fucking depressing. And what's so infuriating and depressing about it is - why? Why even fucking bother for these last 2 years. If you're not committed, why drag this out.

Putin is sitting rubbing his hands with glee. He knew the West wouldn't hold, and sure enough, here it comes.

Putin has plenty of expendable, cheap war resources - humans. Ukraine does not.

This is the one war since the first Gulf War I actually believed the West should get involved in.

I think the days of standing up to tyranny died with the leaders of WWII.

Not my war...fuck it.

[Skoop]

I'm pretty sure they'll get a funding deal done.  If we can keep the Ukrainians supplied with arty shells, they can fight on defensively for a long time.  It's not as dark as it might seem.  But the reality of Ukraine recapturing their land with some sweeping offensive like Kharkov last fall is not happening.

In hind sight, I'm wondering if the zaporizia front was a mistake, like Hitler at Kursk.  Those mobile reserves could do some damage on the avdivka pincers in a counter attack role, plus no mine fields to deal with.

[Crossroads]

I don't believe the losses at Zaporizhzhia were decisive as such. The known losses afaik were more like a battalion tactical group stopped right there, but not more. Then again, who knows, the fog of war is thick.

[Windigo]

I'm pretty sure they'll get a funding deal done.  If we can keep the Ukrainians supplied with arty shells, they can fight on defensively for a long time.  It's not as dark as it might seem.  But the reality of Ukraine recapturing their land with some sweeping offensive like Kharkov last fall is not happening.

In hind sight, I'm wondering if the zaporizia front was a mistake, like Hitler at Kursk.  Those mobile reserves could do some damage on the avdivka pincers in a counter attack role, plus no mine fields to deal with.

Apparently they did have a successful counterattack there. I was wondering why it wasn't coming sooner....  but all that counts are the results.

[FarAway Sooner]

I don't know that Western resolve is crumbling, so much as just eroding in a couple places.  I think the media, fully recognizing that fear sells, sensationalizes every little vibration in the alliance as a sure sign that support is ending.  This creates doubt in the West and provides encouragement for the Putinista regime, even as it does a great job of selling advertising for the media outlets! 

I'm NOT arguing that continued vigilance and support from NATO is not needed.  I'm not arguing that the current political kerfluffles aren't disheartening.

I just don't see the short-term stuff as being worth sweating yet.  Seeing democracy in action is like watching sausage being made.  I'm hoping that this is no exception.

[GDS_Starfury]

Zelensky chewed into orban's ass yesterday in Argentina and it was great to see! 

[Windigo]

Good!

[GDS_Starfury]

he literally had him cornered in the room they were in.

[Windigo]

he literally had him cornered in the room they were in.

I hope he squeazed him..... HAAARD!

[Crossroads]

 

https://twitter.com/john_sipher/status/1734627734880420242

[Windigo]

Holy crap. If I was a satellite Neighbour to Russia, reluctantly within their sphere of control, I'd be thinking right about now about gaining a bunch more autonomy.

[Gusington]

^Wow...that is darkly amazing.

[ArizonaTank]

Holy crap. If I was a satellite Neighbour to Russia, reluctantly within their sphere of control, I'd be thinking right about now about gaining a bunch more autonomy.

Yep! Just refrain from playing drunken grenade toss while you are on your private jet.

[GDS_Starfury]

russia gonna russia!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1734990284960727487