Russia's War Against Ukraine

[solops]

As I listen to the clueless talking heads interview a parade of clueless policy weenies I am stunned at the fantasy these self-deluded idiots live in. Wake up and smell the roses, they smell like gunpowder.

[Uberhaus]

^the even scarier thing is that Zelenskyy is talking about trying to procure them.

That is something I haven't heard yet.

But even when they had them I don't think they had operational control over them.


Don't expect any protests in Russia as this equals a trip to prison (or worse).

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26337693 Mass arrest of protesters at rallies in Russia (2014)
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/22/russia-protests-more-than-1000-arrested-at-pro-navalny-demonstrations.html   More than 1,000 arrested at pro-Navalny protests in Russia as demonstrators defy ban (2021)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-navalny-protesters-abuses/2021/02/26/c5d8856c-6aef-11eb-a66e-e27046e9e898_story.html   As some of the more than 11,000 detainees emerge from crowded detention centers, they speak of violence, fear and potential rights violations (2021)

There's one incident where the military sided with the people and refused to crush democracy demonstrators.  The 1991 Soviet coup d'état attempt.   

There is also protest by Belarus soldiers burning their uniforms from August 2020. https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-53776463 


February 23rd was a holiday in Russia.  Remembrance of Defence of the Motherland.  I guess every Russian leader has to produce holiday fun, lest public opinion of them end up in the basement.

[Jarhead0331]

This evening I've tracked a number of RQ4 Global Hawks directly over Ukraine. Still very light civilian air traffic over the country. Hardly anyone is coming in or out. Everything is avoiding Crimea and most of the Black Sea.

[Con]

I thinks its going down now- Ukrainian forces reportedly shelling Donetsk - False Flags are flying! Time in Kyiv 4:15am
https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/ukraine-russia-news-02-23-22/index.html

[GDS_Starfury]

emergency meeting of the UNSC starting right now

[Gusington]

^We're saved!

:/

[SirAndrewD]

^We're saved!

:/

Of course we are. 

They will alter their stern warnings to sterner warnings.

[GDS_Starfury]

and putin just said hes invading....

[GDS_Starfury]

 <:-)

[SirAndrewD]

CNN reporting Kyiv being hit.

Watching this now..

[Con]

I am reminded of the line from Red Storm Rising when the balloon goes up
Stout Hearts SACLANT sends - here's hoping the Ukrainians can hold and bloody Ivan.

[SirAndrewD]

Putin said his goal was to "De-Nazify" Ukraine.

[Gusington]

There is a lot of information flying right now, hard to keep up.

[GDS_Starfury]

no idea why this UN meeting is still going on.

[SirAndrewD]

There is a lot of information flying right now, hard to keep up.

Yeah.  I'm hearing of amphibious operations against Odesa and Mariupol but so far haven't seen that in the mainstream media.

EDIT: Ok, CNN reported it.

Looks like possibly a movie against Kharkiv and Mariupol with the goal of a double envelopment.