Russia's War Against Ukraine

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Quote from: W8taminute on March 19, 2022, 02:17:58 PM
Interesting.

https://www.israel365news.com/267509/nato-showcases-female-soldier-with-nazi-symbol-lauds-her-strength-bravery/

It's well known that there are in fact neo Nazis in Ukraine, such as the infamous Azov brigade.  It shouldn't come as a surprise at all that such nationalist neonazi types are rallying to fight Russian invaders.  That these individuals are disproportionately focused on is a Russian propaganda tactic to try and legitimize their "neo nazis run Ukraine" argument.  As for NATO tweeting it, I am sure their social media intern feels terribly for the mistake.   :crazy2:
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Gusington

If true the Ukrainians are continuing to build quite the tally.


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Quote from: Gusington on March 19, 2022, 08:18:59 PM
If true the Ukrainians are continuing to build quite the tally.

In more ways than one. 

ISW's weekend analysis was that at this point the current Russian strategy could only achieve a stalemate and they know it.  Right now they're so frustrated that the targeting of civilians and terror bombing is filling in for a coherent plan.

They're stalled and seem to lack any will to do a full operational pause and come up with a strategy for a second campaign.  It's telling that they seem to have called off their operation in Odessa,, and it's speculated that they did that because they had no confidence that they could relieve a beachhead and there was a high likelihood of it being driven into the sea and destroyed.

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Gusington

I don't know what to believe. Different media outlets are reporting different takes on the war and its progress. NYTimes is reporting right now how the Russians are making the most progress they have made in three weeks.


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SirAndrewD

Quote from: Gusington on March 19, 2022, 09:47:04 PM
I don't know what to believe.

Yeah.  Fog of War.  Both sides have reason to lie about progress or lack thereof.

We probably won't have a very clear picture of how this went down for a long time. 

And as a history guy I know we'll be arguing about our interpretations forever.
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Quote from: Gusington on March 19, 2022, 09:47:04 PM
I don't know what to believe. Different media outlets are reporting different takes on the war and its progress. NYTimes is reporting right now how the Russians are making the most progress they have made in three weeks.

We're in the 4th week of the invasion. Russia has failed to capture a single objective city. Russia has failed to gain air superiority. Ukraine still has command and control and is capable of coordinating effective counter attacks. By all accounts, Russian losses have been severe. Progress or not, this war is nowhere near being over.
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Con

The more insightful analytical sites agree on the following
1 Russia is moving into a defensive attritional war
2 Russias current strung out multi axis advance and confinement to roads is not sustainable for logistics and personnel on an attritional war and they will need to consolidate and pull back.
3 the Russian strategy has been so incoherent and bad that they may not pull back
4 Ukraine can make them suffer in an attritional war but Ukraine also looses. Looses troops, civilians and infrastructure since the only investments that will be made in the Ukraine are weapons systems.
5 national will at home and moral of the army will ultimately decide. It will be 1918 all over again

Con

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Gusington

^Holy moly, that is great.

Before this phase of the wider war, the fighting in Donbas also very closely resembled attritional First World War style fighting.

Unfortunately more of the same for the rest of Ukraine moving forward, it looks like.


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Sir Slash

At this point, you have to wonder if the Russian lack of progress is on account of their incompetence or perhaps, the soldiers themselves are largely resisting to fight a war they believe is wrong. That could explain Putin using foreign fighters who have no reluctance to killing those they do not see as their own people.
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Gusington

Hmm Mike's original post is not available anymore. Maybe this version will work:



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