Russia's War Against Ukraine

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More info on the drone war:

As a side note, I have seen quite a few good articles from Forbes on the war. Pretty good for a financial mag.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/ukraine-s-drones-are-wreaking-havoc-on-the-russian-army/ar-AAVjQD2?ocid=msedgntp
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A since deleted article on the pro kremlin tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda listed almost 10k Russian soldiers killed and 15k wounded.
This could be a hack and propaganda for Ukraine but it is inline with several independent assessments has since been deleted and also list armor and helicopter looses that seem reasonable based on the counts.
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https://twitter.com/edwardgluce/status/1505987094392541196?s=21

MengJiao

Quote from: Con on March 21, 2022, 02:57:13 PM
A since deleted article on the pro kremlin tabloid Komsomolskaya Pravda listed almost 10k Russian soldiers killed and 15k wounded.
This could be a hack and propaganda for Ukraine but it is inline with several independent assessments has since been deleted and also list armor and helicopter looses that seem reasonable based on the counts.
Twitter link below
https://twitter.com/edwardgluce/status/1505987094392541196?s=21

  IIRC, that tabloid is edited in Belarus.  In any case, I wonder what Belarus is going to do with Russia sort of all falling apart all around its ears.  They seem to be lying low and hoping this
all blows over somehow.

FarAway Sooner

It seems like Russia is settling into a long war of attrition, targeting Ukrainian civilians and infrastructure as much as their military.  Militarily, that probably qualifies as a victory in any wargame where you play as the Ukrainians.  In a certain sense, this is like the military version of porn. 

From a humanitarian disaster, I can't even imagine how bad this is going to get.  That certainly puts my respect for the Ukrainian military into perspective.

Due to the fog of war, all we can conclude safely at this point is that Russian military hardware seems to work reasonably well. 

When in the hands of well-trained and motivated Ukrainian soldiers, at least...

I take all the videos I see online with a big grain of salt, but am I the only one who can't recall seeing a single video of Russian infantry?  The handful of videos I've seen seem to mostly show Russian tanks operating in isolation, or perhaps escorting fully buttoned-up AFV troop carriers. 

Gusington

There's this now infamous video of Russian troops getting trapped in an apartment building elevator...



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#1551
Talking about Double U Double U Eye Eye from https://www.criticalthreats.org/analysis/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-21
QuoteThe Ukrainian General Staff stated for the first time on March 21 that Russia is deploying unspecified support units to "direct combat operations" and said that Russia continues to deploy reserves from the Central and Eastern Military Districts (CMD and EMD).[5] The Ukrainian Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) provided further details on conscription measures in the DNR and LNR on March 21. They reported that Russian authorities are increasing the conscription age from 55 to 65 and aggressively recruiting 18-year-old students.  The GUR reported conscripts in DNR/LNR forces are supplied with military equipment from the 1970s.[6] Local social media imagery depicted new conscripts equipped with the Mosin-Nagant bolt action rifle—which has not been produced since 1973 and was first produced in 1891
Maybe they're being given initial marksmanship training on the M-N rifle, maybe not, but it definitely indicates some kind of shortage.  The twitter pic is no longer available though. 

Just throw the damn thing away and surrender.
Edit: so stunned made a sp and grammatical error.

Gusington

^1891!!

And I also didn't know that Japan and Russia never formally ended hostilities from WWII.


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Round up potential trouble-makers, give them poopy equipment, shove them out front to soak up fire and then declare them martyrs and heroes.
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When Putin runs out of 18 year old conscripts, I wonder if he will go back to those Russian Dog-Bombs I read about in, "Hitler Turns East" when I was a kid. I heard somebody seized his private yacht today too.
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So - we are now expecting Russia to use biological and chemical weapons...and still no red line drawn by NATO or the UN?

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слава Україна!

We can't live under the threat of a c*nt because he's threatening nuclear Armageddon.

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MengJiao

Quote from: Gusington on March 21, 2022, 07:52:09 PM
^1891!!

And I also didn't know that Japan and Russia never formally ended hostilities from WWII.

  This is all news to me.  OF course (as I found in Enlisted) the Mosan-Nagant has gotten many modifications since 1891.  Also...if the Russians throw the locals into the battle, what's to stop the
locals (in those places I cant spell and in Belarus) from switching sides...maybe that's why they are getting thrown in...just to keep them from "getting any ideas"...

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#1558
Quote from: Uberhaus on March 21, 2022, 07:47:39 PM
Talking about Double U Double U Eye Eye from https://www.criticalthreats.org/analysis/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-march-21
QuoteThe Ukrainian General Staff stated for the first time on March 21 that Russia is deploying unspecified support units to "direct combat operations" and said that Russia continues to deploy reserves from the Central and Eastern Military Districts (CMD and EMD).[5] The Ukrainian Military Intelligence Directorate (GUR) provided further details on conscription measures in the DNR and LNR on March 21. They reported that Russian authorities are increasing the conscription age from 55 to 65 and aggressively recruiting 18-year-old students.  The GUR reported conscripts in DNR/LNR forces are supplied with military equipment from the 1970s.[6] Local social media imagery depicted new conscripts equipped with the Mosin-Nagant bolt action rifle—which has not been produced since 1973 and was first produced in 1891
Maybe they're being given initial marksmanship training on the M-N rifle, maybe not, but it definitely indicates some kind of shortage.  The twitter pic is no longer available though. 

Just throw the damn thing away and surrender.
Edit: so stunned made a sp and grammatical error.

I find that this report stretches the bounds of credulity. Yes, it is clear that the Russian military is plagued with problems ranging from poor training and morale to poor maintenance of equipment, lack of proper planning, inadequate logistics, corruption, incompetent leadership, etc...but I still find it hard to believe that the Russian military lacks enough kalashnikov rifles to equip its army and needs to rely on M-Ns. Over 100 million kalashnikov family rifles have been manufactured and the Russian military has very large stockpiles of them. Hell, they've probably exported millions of them. I also find it hard to believe that after about a month of war they are already being forced to recruit AARP members. It just doesn't make sense. Sounds grossly exaggerated to me.

Otherwise, the report does seem to be about measures in the DNR and LNR, only, so even if true, it is a little deceptive in that the severity of the claim does not pertain to the condition of the Russian military at large...only in a very small area that has been at war for many years.
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Quote from: JudgeDredd on March 22, 2022, 04:50:57 AM
So - we are now expecting Russia to use biological and chemical weapons...and still no red line drawn by NATO or the UN?

Putin plays the tune, and NATO dances.


That's what is baffling me as well. 

The news keeps talking about the possibility that Putin will use WMDs but for some reason the West won't draw a line.  It all seems like just a bunch of talk to me but I wouldn't be surprised if powerful stuff is used at some point.
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